Snyder's of Hanover
BLUEGRASS

Bowling Green, KY

#1643 Nov 4, 2011
welcome to the ville clocker! looks like tomorrow gonna be a better day to go. i have no seats and will be at churchill near the paddock by the big screen. do you have internet access on your phone? i dont, maybe you can let me know where your seats are and i bring you a bourbon on ice.or where you be sat. night and i try to get away for a bit from the family.sorry late notice, i just dont know how to else to hook up. i probably be gettin to the track round 2-3 and stay for a few hours.
Clocker wrote:
Where's Bluegrass? I'll be hanging out at Doc Crow's in downtown Louisville tonight.
danielle03

Bronx, NY

#1644 Nov 4, 2011
i am sueing snyders my laywer says there theives
Yaz in Florida

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#1645 Nov 7, 2011
IOwannaBe wrote:
Which is better? C-store or Grocery Store Route? Can you give me a list of your pro's and con's. I have a choice between the two. First off Grocery Store costs more, but sales are more as well: about $9500 and C-store is a lot more driving at about $6500 in sales. There does seem to be potential in the C-store/Walmart route to grow, but I don't know much about Grocery routes. Your input is appreciated.
Grocery by far. My 02 cents.

You will have to carry 3 million items in your truck, many of which will sell in one store but not another and many likely will not be consistently available to you EVERY SINGLE week at the warehouse putting you in tough situations with your customers.

Much easier to control you inventory with a Grocery route and in all reality you will be dealing with less variery of inventory.

You will have to service a zillion accounts for those 6500 per week, I assume the proposed grocery route that averages 9500 will be between 5 and 10 accounts.

Plenty more reasons than that but IMO it is just not even close.
Droopy

Parkersburg, WV

#1646 Nov 7, 2011
or you could be like me yaz, and have a traditional route that has it all, uds, food service, grocery, mass etc :-) yay me. LOL
Mike Berry

Bolingbrook, IL

#1647 Nov 8, 2011
I have a grocery store route with about 10 small cash stops in addition. I can't stand the small stops. I'd say about 8 of them are a waste of time. I have to carry a bunch of 99 cent items on my truck and I spend so much time sorting the chips to bring in a nice variety to these gas stations. Plus, in the non summer months I take a ton of stale chips out. I learned my lesson. Now I keep the shelves very lean in gas stations.

Grocery chains are the best option by far. You spend less time driving and more time in the store, so it allows you to find new ways to get more product in. Plus, it's alot easier dealing with 6 or 7 managers than 30 different cash stop managers. Just the other day at one of my dinky cash stops, the manager wanted me to come in every week instead of every other week. It's a joke. I bring in about 20 bucks worth of chips every 2 weeks.... so now I have to come in every week to give him a 10 bucks order at best. Total waste of time.
lance von erich

Harmony, PA

#1648 Nov 9, 2011
I am with lance ;I do not own a route. My credit score is 500 and Im worried i wont get financing. what should i do . they showed me territory they wat me on today. Im excited but worried about my credit denial
Clocker

Tampa, FL

#1649 Nov 9, 2011
If they like you they will offer you financing through MAW. You will pay an exorbitant amount of interest. It will be your decision to accept or move on. Expect your weekly payment to be very high.
Mike Berry

Bolingbrook, IL

#1650 Nov 11, 2011
How are you guys doing with Christmas cookies? I have all of mine out. Christmas season is here! Walmart is already playing CHristmas music! lolol
inmypants

Slidell, LA

#1651 Nov 12, 2011
"How are you guys doing with Christmas cookies? I have all of mine out. Christmas season is here! Walmart is already playing CHristmas music! lolol"
The Christmas cookies sell great, but you have to get them out ASAP as they tend to sell better early in the season. For the past two years I've had some stores sell out by Thanksgiving, and there won't be any more to back fill the displays. Wedding cake is the real winner,outselling the others by a wide margin.
Droopy

Parkersburg, WV

#1652 Nov 13, 2011
i have sold the archway christmas cookies for 3 seasons now, and they are always a great seller. you are absolutely right the wedding cake is the top seller, followed closely by the cashew nougat and then believe it or not the pefferneuse. the price point in walmart makes them a great deal as well.
northeast snackman

Sharon, MA

#1653 Nov 13, 2011
To all the Lance-Greer IO's who had a really bad experience with your new top of the line handhelds Friday night: You go live Monday! We had the exact same experience when we had our meeting on a Sunday 6/6/10. The same problems we had then are the same problems we have now. We are all wondering what the no help desk is for. You call them, they write your problem down, and pass it to another department. You don't know how many stores IO's have missed due to these handhelds. Hopefully they figured out the troubleshooting for you guys.
If, and when you get frusterated Monday with these handhelds just ask the Snyders IO's during your stops and I'm sure they will help with your process. We are all in this together. Good luck guys....
sir lance a lot

United States

#1654 Nov 13, 2011
I have a few small cash accounts . Lance made us deposit money daily but since the transition I have not been depositing but every few days or once a week. how strict is snyder on making timely deposits? will i get told abt this?

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#1655 Nov 13, 2011
sir lance a lot wrote:
I have a few small cash accounts . Lance made us deposit money daily but since the transition I have not been depositing but every few days or once a week. how strict is snyder on making timely deposits? will i get told abt this?
If you are still a temp/company operator, you can send in the funds from cahs stops once a week with the company paperwork. if you are an IO, you don't send in anything. The cash and checks are yours and will be dealt with each week in your settlement.
IOwannaBe

Greensboro, NC

#1656 Nov 14, 2011
Thanks, Yaz. I took the grocery store route, which has about 10 stops on it. Still in the process of doing paperwork even though I'm officially on the route now. It takes time, but it looks like a good move so far. The warehouse is a mad house and I didn't get near enough for my first couple days. Getting the inventory down is going to be biggest challenge. I had no idea how much grocery stores need which was my biggest fear going into this. No one seems to have time to help and I feel like I'm flying blind. I have enough experience on route sales to make this work - it's just getting over the inventory learning curve. I also don't get how S-L handles the commissions. They make it very complicated, but that will come in time.

I appreciate your input.
Yaz in Florida wrote:
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Grocery by far. My 02 cents.
You will have to carry 3 million items in your truck, many of which will sell in one store but not another and many likely will not be consistently available to you EVERY SINGLE week at the warehouse putting you in tough situations with your customers.
Much easier to control you inventory with a Grocery route and in all reality you will be dealing with less variery of inventory.
You will have to service a zillion accounts for those 6500 per week, I assume the proposed grocery route that averages 9500 will be between 5 and 10 accounts.
Plenty more reasons than that but IMO it is just not even close.
idk

Norfolk, VA

#1657 Nov 14, 2011
IOwannaBe wrote:
Thanks, Yaz. I took the grocery store route, which has about 10 stops on it. Still in the process of doing paperwork even though I'm officially on the route now. It takes time, but it looks like a good move so far. The warehouse is a mad house and I didn't get near enough for my first couple days. Getting the inventory down is going to be biggest challenge. I had no idea how much grocery stores need which was my biggest fear going into this. No one seems to have time to help and I feel like I'm flying blind. I have enough experience on route sales to make this work - it's just getting over the inventory learning curve. I also don't get how S-L handles the commissions. They make it very complicated, but that will come in time.
I appreciate your input.
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no it won't

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#1658 Nov 14, 2011
IOwannaBe wrote:
I also don't get how S-L handles the commissions. They make it very complicated, but that will come in time.
I appreciate your input.
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You're right, they do make it very complicated. Making us carry inventory costs (especially if you are working out of a bin)is an absolutely terrible system that often forces IO's to do things that aren't in the best interest of the company. But I digress. here is how the 'commission' works.

First, here is a basic breakdown of how your pay is settled:
Sales + Promo Allowance(company portion)+ Premium Commission (if any)- Load Purchases - Handheld Charge - Route Payment - Vehicle Payment(if applicable)- Funds from cash stops you keep.

Now, with all that being said, we will disect each segment.

1st, your sales are net of any promo discounts given, so the company portion of the promo discount is added back so you don't have to cover 100% of the allowance. Generally, the company will pay for 83% of promo allowances.

2nd, premium commissions are given to c-store items (if you have any) AND to all items on certain routes with low sales and/or lots of miles.

3rd, your loads are purchased at a discount, 17% in your case since you have a grocery route. In other words, if you buy $830 worth of product, the normal sales value of the product would be $1000. Normal sales value doesn't take into acount any promo discounts given.

4th, any payment you owe the company is deducted from the settlement, ie $35 for handheld rental, any route pmt, and any vehicle pmt if financed through them.

Finally, any cash/checks you get from non-credit stops are yours to keep. The money will be subtracted from settlement.

Ok, now. If you happen to sell to Wal-Mart, you will find that they buy product from you for less than you purchase it for. Every purchase they make is with an off invoice allowance. basically, instead of making 17% on sales, you will make around 14%.

Finally, you will get a settlement statement in the mail each week that is supposed to breakdown how your pay is figured. However, it doesn't go into enough detail to understand how things were figured unless you dig out your end of day route summaries, promo reports, and sales registers to do some math. promo allowance only shows as a number, instead of showing what the total allowance was for the week multiplied by the company portion. Nothing is explained. It is like a fucking 5th grader put it together. You will definately need to check and make sure everything has been accounted for. Many mistakes have been made so far.

PS, for those that don't know, you can change selling prices for any account you have that isn't a chain store like Wal-Mart, Homeland, Target, Loves, etc. Always helps a bit to increase prices to mom and pop stores and cash accounts.
Yaz in Florida

Hialeah, FL

#1659 Nov 14, 2011
IOwannaBe wrote:
Thanks, Yaz. I took the grocery store route, which has about 10 stops on it. Still in the process of doing paperwork even though I'm officially on the route now. It takes time, but it looks like a good move so far. The warehouse is a mad house and I didn't get near enough for my first couple days. Getting the inventory down is going to be biggest challenge. I had no idea how much grocery stores need which was my biggest fear going into this. No one seems to have time to help and I feel like I'm flying blind. I have enough experience on route sales to make this work - it's just getting over the inventory learning curve. I also don't get how S-L handles the commissions. They make it very complicated, but that will come in time.
I appreciate your input.
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You're welcome.

Learning how to figure out your route settlement (pay) is a vital part of being an IO for S-L, I have even told some of the new guys in the past that it is AS IMPORTANT as actually selling the product itself. If there are any major mistakes in your route settlement and you let it roll from one week to the next without rectifying it, you will have a snowball effect that you will likely never get out of.

As far as inventory is concerned, if you can afford it, I would load without regard for monetary value and how much inventory you carry around for the first few weeks. This will undoubtedly keep you from collecting pay for a few weeks but it will allow you time to get acquainted with your accounts and have enough product to sell and keep your stores full. Eventually you will get paid for these sales even if at first you will be discouraged by not collecting a route settlement. Slowly, as you become more familiar with your stores you can scale back on your loads to more closely reflect what you really need and start collecting $$ you may have missed on the initial weeks.

If the above is not an option, just live by the 80-20 rule and you should be able to escape shortage of inventory within your stores by at least having the most important items in your stores without your lack of product being detected.

Good luck!!
DTS

Bronx, NY

#1660 Nov 15, 2011
Do the IO's who work through the Snyder's believe that the company is looking out for them and finding the best accountant to prepare their taxes?

Distributor Tax Services
www.dtstax.com
(877) DTS-4TAX or (877) 387-4829

Why pay more for less?$60 per month for all bookkeeping/tax preparation
Yaz in Florida

Hialeah, FL

#1662 Nov 16, 2011
DTS wrote:
Do the IO's who work through the Snyder's believe that the company is looking out for them and finding the best accountant to prepare their taxes?
Distributor Tax Services
www.dtstax.com
(877) DTS-4TAX or (877) 387-4829
Why pay more for less?$60 per month for all bookkeeping/tax preparation
Why dont you stop posting this crap here already?

Nobody cares about the services you have to offer.
holy bat farts batman

United States

#1663 Nov 17, 2011
DTS, I know for a fact that because of you're spamming I would never consider using your company and will steer anyone that asks about your services away from your company. Anyone that has to spam a forum is desperate and cannot be trusted.

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