Snyder's of Hanover
pastorjohn

United States

#4798 Oct 26, 2013
didn't even have enough to pay my settlement this week they would not download the promos for 2 pallets of chips I had bought looks like another lawsuit brewing to me!!!!
snacktime

Belvidere, IL

#4799 Oct 26, 2013
abc123 wrote:
<quoted text>I went out and worked very hard..hit the 10% bonus only to receive an updated 3rd quarter bonus report and over half the numbers were changed for previous weeks. How can snyders change my numbers on the rebate report? For 11 weeks numbers stayed the same and on the last week of the quarter they send me updated numbers!!!! By doing this, I did not get a bonus. I received a total of three different reports for 3rd quarter rebate numbers all coming at the close of the quarter!! I reported this to my DM, who I must say has been trying to help me with this matter! I received a text from him which said I would be receiving my bonus this week. Up to this point I have not received anything up till now. My DM is to check into this Monday am! This is very frustrating...By the way, I see Snyders already changed my numbers again for this fourth quarter rebate. For those of you in management that read these comments...How can Snyders change numbers once they're given to us? The kicker on this...didn't even get an explanation to this point. I've been patient but my patience are starting to run out. I believe in doing the "right" thing and now its time for Snyders to do the same!!! Snyders gave me numbers..I hit them.. now make it right!!!
Have your documents ready, don't you keep track on your own(don't rely on their reports they are so bogus I can't even begin to tell you on this site!!!!). Its kinda like abc123
snacktime

Belvidere, IL

#4800 Oct 26, 2013
nib wrote:
<quoted text>
Anyone notice the animosity between IBO's and Snyder management? Do they not realize that they alienate the IBO's and in turn it hurts everyone's business??? And why do they continue to treat IBO's as employees? As I see it management wants to continue to "manage " us but does not want the expense of an employee. Up the profit margins and leave us alone. The vast majority of IBO's know how to manage a business, that is why we are IBO's and they are employees
I agree up until halfway of your comment. First of all the majority of ibo's can't run a business.(they are shelf fillers) That is the exact reason there are SL employee's hounding you,(managing). If they up the profit margin and you are happy with what you make, hmmm then you won't sell and grow. SL is a company that wants to grow! Frito-Lay doesn't want their employees to lay flat, that is why they are always fucking with the employees pay or routes. You own your own company, why don't you act like it. Or maybe you can apply for Frito-Lay. You will make the same money but it will be a for real boss that you can't tell to fuck off!

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#4801 Oct 26, 2013
Broke ass wrote:
They have a so called new service agreement if a account does more than 60 bucks a week u should catch u it twice a week and so on and wants us to sign it ... I pretty much going to tell them to go fuck off ... Time to stand up for ourselves !
its a great idea but we are in a time where people don't see big picture and don't think they can make a difference. If they do propose such a ridiculous plan "we" have to stand up!!!!!!! They can't operate without us and are public ally traded. Shareholders dont like work turmoil som they would nvr let it get ugly
abc123

Hanover, PA

#4802 Oct 27, 2013
snacktime wrote:
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Have your documents ready, don't you keep track on your own(don't rely on their reports they are so bogus I can't even begin to tell you on this site!!!!). Its kinda like abc123
I have all documents and check them on a weekly basis...that is how I knew the numbers were changed on the last week of the quarter. There was a crossdock that I wasn't paid on either! However, with the help of my DM, I was paid for it but about 2 months after the fact. This is why I'm waiting for my DM to check into this matter. He does do the "right" thing..I think its those in the office that need to get their "ducks in a row". Its a shame that some can keep doing what they do...I know lots of people that need a job in all facets of employment that I'm sure would make a drastic improvement which would help all of us in this business. I believe we have good products and snyders is trying to improve their business model. However, we all know, crawl, walk, run...Just a suggestion..book smarts is nice but think outside of the box..there are creative individuals with lots of experience..ie..lance crackers...3 for 5..fantastic price..too bad they were not in the ad...would have made a huge impact! Maybe next time?? I know some ibo's do the minimal but those of us trying to grow our business or take it to the next level..give us what we need and all of us will be rewarded!
just trying to get by

Atlanta, GA

#4803 Oct 27, 2013
Quit crying about a bs bonus. This was never intended to help us. Just another way for Snyder Lance to earn more off of our hard work. The last three weeks they changed our numbers on top of not having ANYTHING on sale in Publix or Kroger that mattered. Because of these three weeks the ones that were close or over the 10% all missed getting the bonus. Funny how one of the biggest zones where they would be paying the biggest checks all of a sudden has NOTHING on sale the last three weeks of the quarter.

Just more underhandness from this Snyder Lance company ran by a bunch of thieves and crooks.

Guys when speaking about Snyder Lance make sure to spell out their whole name to make sure when someone Google's the company name they get to see links to this site and how this company cheats its IBO's.
S-l troll

Monroe, NC

#4804 Oct 27, 2013
snacktime wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree up until halfway of your comment. First of all the majority of ibo's can't run a business.(they are shelf fillers) That is the exact reason there are SL employee's hounding you,(managing). If they up the profit margin and you are happy with what you make, hmmm then you won't sell and grow. SL is a company that wants to grow! Frito-Lay doesn't want their employees to lay flat, that is why they are always fucking with the employees pay or routes. You own your own company, why don't you act like it. Or maybe you can apply for Frito-Lay. You will make the same money but it will be a for real boss that you can't tell to fuck off!
true they have alot of bad ibo's mostly on marginal just getting by routes but this 2 year in new service agreement saying u should catch a 60 dollar a week twice is a lil much .. We get paid on what we sell if they needed more than once a week service most of us would be there !

Since: Sep 13

Location hidden

#4805 Oct 27, 2013
I keep seeing the term (Shelf Fillers).I would say that 95% of shelf fillers have a sh*t route like I do and have gave up on putting out displays that sell 2-3 bags in 2 weeks. Most of you that are aggressive have premium routes with a higher money clientel than some of us do. So if you could run a route were unless it's BOGO or something hot you are wasting your time and it will only result in more stales for you to eat.S&L is responsible for not giving us all a good route that we can live off of. If your running $5000-$7000 a week you might as well go work for Wal*Mart.
WNY

United States

#4806 Oct 27, 2013
snacktime wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree up until halfway of your comment. First of all the majority of ibo's can't run a business.(they are shelf fillers) That is the exact reason there are SL employee's hounding you,(managing). If they up the profit margin and you are happy with what you make, hmmm then you won't sell and grow. SL is a company that wants to grow! Frito-Lay doesn't want their employees to lay flat, that is why they are always fucking with the employees pay or routes. You own your own company, why don't you act like it. Or maybe you can apply for Frito-Lay. You will make the same money but it will be a for real boss that you can't tell to fuck off!
snacktime ,you crack me up... You finally agree with some comments made by an IBO, minutes with you there is always a caveat . When people feel cheated they will tend to stop caring and do just what is needed to get by. The fact that you don't get it makes me realize that you are a Snyders employee. Why not take your stupid ass opinions elsewhere, you contribute nothing but the corporate bullshit line!
NO Zone

Tucker, GA

#4807 Oct 28, 2013
I'm not signing or agreeing to work a stop twice a week that has $500-700 in inventory and only sold $60 of it in a week. That's a once a week stop. My time, money, gas, and vehicle wear can't justify it.
FORMER UTZ IBO

Littleton, CO

#4808 Oct 28, 2013
NO Zone wrote:
I'm not signing or agreeing to work a stop twice a week that has $500-700 in inventory and only sold $60 of it in a week. That's a once a week stop. My time, money, gas, and vehicle wear can't justify it.
__________
Long time ago pre merger there was a group of IO's trying to make a difference. They failed to get the majority on board to let everyone know this merger was going to be really bad for the new routes. No one would listen. The group said the new S-L will follow Frito Lay's work philosophy. x amont of dollars/week to the days serviced. No one would listen then. Yes Frito Lay people are miserable, but at least they didn't pay for their jobs..........

Now, after the fact, the same IO"s that didn't listen are the same one's complaining about the way S-L is mistreating them. The original people who wanted to band together? They were blackablled with no routes. Most of them veterans. This will continue because there are shareholders to answer to. God help us all.
S-l troll

Easley, SC

#4809 Oct 28, 2013
FORMER UTZ IBO wrote:
<quoted text>
__________
Long time ago pre merger there was a group of IO's trying to make a difference. They failed to get the majority on board to let everyone know this merger was going to be really bad for the new routes. No one would listen. The group said the new S-L will follow Frito Lay's work philosophy. x amont of dollars/week to the days serviced. No one would listen then. Yes Frito Lay people are miserable, but at least they didn't pay for their jobs..........
Now, after the fact, the same IO"s that didn't listen are the same one's complaining about the way S-L is mistreating them. The original people who wanted to band together? They were blackablled with no routes. Most of them veterans. This will continue because there are shareholders to answer to. God help us all.
well if u are dumb enough to do it then that's ur problem ! I signed a agreement 2 years ago and not going to sign a new one they have a hard enough tins keeping all the routes full u think they can enforce this ? Lol
FORMER UTZ IBO

Littleton, CO

#4810 Oct 28, 2013
S-l troll wrote:
<quoted text> well if u are dumb enough to do it then that's ur problem ! I signed a agreement 2 years ago and not going to sign a new one they have a hard enough tins keeping all the routes full u think they can enforce this ? Lol
__________
Really? You know how many people didn't want to sign the last contract? And our peers were going to run the routes without buying them? You will sign, or you will have no route. Just like the contract before you signed this last one. IBO contracts mena nothing. We all found out the hard way. So, talk the talk, cause when the time comes you will sign. Or you'll be walking the pavement.
SL IBO

Newington, CT

#4811 Oct 28, 2013
S-l troll wrote:
<quoted text> well if u are dumb enough to do it then that's ur problem ! I signed a agreement 2 years ago and not going to sign a new one they have a hard enough tins keeping all the routes full u think they can enforce this ? Lol
Same here , no reason to sign anything new, the only changes they would make would only benefit them... More treating us as employees, I'm not an employee and don't want to be tested as one .. There is DM in our neck of the woods that continues to go into stores and write notes that tell you what you need , mind you these aren't suggestions. they are written orders. I , personally throw out the notes.and continue to run my territory as I see fit . But he continues to do it
S-l troll

Easley, SC

#4812 Oct 28, 2013
FORMER UTZ IBO wrote:
<quoted text>
__________
Really? You know how many people didn't want to sign the last contract? And our peers were going to run the routes without buying them? You will sign, or you will have no route. Just like the contract before you signed this last one. IBO contracts mena nothing. We all found out the hard way. So, talk the talk, cause when the time comes you will sign. Or you'll be walking the pavement.
difference here candy ass I allready bought the route like buying a house u can't change the contract two years in ... The last time we didn't own the routes we just ran them
Northeast Snackman

Sharon, MA

#4813 Oct 28, 2013
Former UTZ IBO is correct. If/when S-L changes the contract you will sign the new one of you will be removed. We all had contracts here before the merger. The loop hole was two companies were merging it we were told our contracts was voided. Either we signed the new one or we don't have routes.

You guys who really thing you own a business are dillusional. We are Frito Lay, except we paid for our jobs. The only good thing for us IBO's here in Mass are alot of us have done well, paid off our routes, trucks, and are making a living. You new IBO's are the ones who will suffer cause you got suckered into this business.

It will only get worse as time goes by. There are alot of us veterans selling. We know how bad it will be in the future.
just trying to get by

Stone Mountain, GA

#4814 Oct 28, 2013
SL IBO wrote:
<quoted text>
Same here , no reason to sign anything new, the only changes they would make would only benefit them... More treating us as employees, I'm not an employee and don't want to be tested as one .. There is DM in our neck of the woods that continues to go into stores and write notes that tell you what you need , mind you these aren't suggestions. they are written orders. I , personally throw out the notes.and continue to run my territory as I see fit . But he continues to do it
He is building a file on you. If they want to can you this will return from your past
Long rod

Arcadia, SC

#4815 Oct 28, 2013
Northeast Snackman wrote:
Former UTZ IBO is correct. If/when S-L changes the contract you will sign the new one of you will be removed. We all had contracts here before the merger. The loop hole was two companies were merging it we were told our contracts was voided. Either we signed the new one or we don't have routes.
You guys who really thing you own a business are dillusional. We are Frito Lay, except we paid for our jobs. The only good thing for us IBO's here in Mass are alot of us have done well, paid off our routes, trucks, and are making a living. You new IBO's are the ones who will suffer cause you got suckered into this business.
It will only get worse as time goes by. There are alot of us veterans selling. We know how bad it will be in the future.
They have also lost a lawsuit paid out alot of money for trying to treat you like a employee ... The recomended how many times u catch a 60 dollar a week is just a Their recommendation nothing set in stone , But you are right with these clowns it ain't going to get any better !
Northeast Snackman

Sharon, MA

#4816 Oct 28, 2013
The same lawfirm that tried the $10 million case was te same lawfirm that said NO to the group of IBO's that asked them to do another class action suit. I can't think of another career where people take an actual cut in pay, just to please the shareholders. I've heard of no raises, but never a decrease n commission. Where does it stop? The first time when we went from 20 to 19.5% some said it was no big deal. The smart people knew it wasn't going to stop there. Now this area makes 18%. Another set of people said no big deal. What's it going to take? Like I've said before I've done well, but the retirement money I was hoping to save for it being taken away little by little with the PA's and the decrease in commission.
Wharfs for cape cod

Chambersburg, PA

#4819 Oct 29, 2013
Just getting sick and tired of the whole thing. Nothing is ever made easy for us unless we do it ourselves. New home pack packaging may be Eco friendly but it is also sales unfriendly. I can't understand the adversarial relationship either. The guys that grew your route better get ready for a route cut. It's a comin!! I am a shelf filler and so are the rest of you that are honest. 2 for 6 on pieces, pounders, and Cape Cod don't produce large volume like Doritos at 2.48 at Walmart. Snyders Lance has a long way to go to make things right and my feeling is that it'll never happen. Learn to live on what you make. It's sad but it's this company in a nutshell. If Dan Morgan really wanted to know what's going on he wouldn't be reading this forum, he'd be riding or talking to IBO's. Not sitting in office making videos. C'mon Dan, make things right. Give us the 20% we were promised. That would be a good starting point.

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