Snyder's of Hanover

Since: Apr 11

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#463 May 1, 2011
Mad Wife wrote:
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If you guys aren't covered by spousal healthy insurance how much do you pay for plans? I have been cheeking into them for a family of 5 and from what I've seen they average from as little as 225.00 per month with a high family dedcutible of 11000 to about 950 per month for a deductible of 2500.
That doesn't seem to steep considering the fact that we pay about 120 a week now out of hubby's check.
My wife is a teacher with good insurance. We are on the family plan (five of us as well) and we pay about 350 a month.

I have heard anywhere from 500 a month with the insurance kicking in only after the first 10,000 out of your pocket. Then only 80% of the cost, with a limit of 1 million in coverage. Then other plans offer lower deductibles but much higher monthly payments.

I have heard from my AllState broker that they are setting up a Health/Life/401k for all Snyder Lance IO's. I use them for my commerical business insurance because they set up all IO's from Snyder's nation wide in a group rate and it was 50 a month cheaper than everyone else. State Farm still has the cheapest Limited Liability policies for about 14 a month or 146 a year(discount if you pay all at once)compared to 300 AllState.

If I were you I would wait to see what AllState has to offer. They will come to the DC to speak with everyone when you get closer to the merge.
Snyder Ho

Leawood, KS

#464 May 1, 2011
boxhard wrote:
in my area pepp. farms gets 20% on crackers 23% on bread and its not a discount %. they take your total sales x 20-23%.<quoted text>
thats what I'm sayin....right??
Snyder Ho

Leawood, KS

#465 May 1, 2011
Good lance guy wrote:
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So I guess by ur answer that you're a snyders io. Just because all of the snyders people just can seem to understand how lance was better off than snyders. Get over y'alls ego. Lance was not in the red. I'm a 10 year employee and I have company stock. I know were not in the red cuz I get financial statements every qtr. Lance owns every brand we have it our truck. Lance, archway, toms, cape cod, private brands, late July cookies, Brent and SAMs cookies.... Should I go on???? We own them not distribute them . 3/4 of what snyders has is distributed by y'all. So I guess that answers some of you doubts. Lance was very well of without snyders. Now I see how cheap snyders is. We moved to their warehouse. They're sloppy, unorganized and you can tell how the environment is totally cheap . Cheap handhelds, very cheap software. It sets me back about 3 hrs everyday. I hate everything about snyders. My worst nightmare.
none of this seems to matter now....even if you are right. By the way they dont own Private Label. Lance could lose it at anytime. And I would like you to go on and name all the things that Lance owns.....because I hadnt heard of some of them you listed. It would be interesting and I know at least here brent and sams arent even in the mkt any more. Late July? never heard of them. Please enlighten us on this.

Since: Apr 11

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#466 May 1, 2011
Good lance guy wrote:
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Mr bootyman,
You're so right. You don't know how it works for lance in other parts if the country. You're obviously misinformed . Here where I'm at, we have 7 to 10,000 dollar routes. We've even done 30,000 sometimes with promotions. And sorry but we have made more than 50, 000 per year, so like I said earlier in sn other post , let go of you ego. You don't gave the facts straight. And by the way, if we sell 7 or 10,000. To the stores, that product goes straight into the shelves, we don't have backstock in our stores. Which means that it's a clean sale and they're actual clean numbers. With y'all snyders y'all have carts of backstock . So like you said, if you sell 10,000 how much of that went to backstock. It's just a way for you to make your numbers up, but they're not real numbers. We don't have to be so stresses out all the time bout all that product sitting there. In that case, i sell an avg if 7500 weekly in my route right now with no promotions, if I had backstock I could play with that number and u could sell 12,000.
And by the way, if you look it at the benefits I make more than 50k. Ive had 401k with lance since I've worked there, never put a dime in there and lance puts 2 to 3 thousand a year on the account . I have about 16,000 on the acct right now and never put a dime if my money on it. You add up 401 k , insurances , and it adds another 10,000 to ur income yearly. With snyders wut do we get, a kick in the $&@&$@&.
Snyders people, get over your damn ego, Lance was a bigger company making more money, and snyders came over and stewed shit up. The only positive thing about all this was for the big wheels in the corporate offices. They're the ones who made the money. Did I mention that your handheld software sucks? Where the he'll did snyders buy from, the dollar store???
Lance had it going on!!!! Yes, had it going on until snyders piped up in the pic.
For one, you use the same handheld as we do which is Symbol. The software isnt that different. We all dex and its a simple program.

As you not knowing the facts, well I laid them out for you and what did you do? Ignore them.

I have very little back stock, if any, in my stores so you to claim we back stock everyone to make a number is pure bullshit.

And either you are going to accept that your company was in trouble and Snyder's bailed them out. So eiother you have a job or pack your shit because it is what it is and there is nothing you can say or do about it. Deal with it or leave like some of us might be doing.

You talk about people's ego's yet here you are doing exactly what you accuse others of. That would make you a hypocrite.

Since: Apr 11

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#467 May 1, 2011
Good Lance Man, you have been there for what 5 years and only have 16K in you 401k? I had only been with Snyder's for 7 months when I sold 6 stores for 35000, which 17500 was put towards my new loans and I was cut a check for the other 17,500. Kind of blows holes in your miserable little 16k after 5 years wouldn't you say?

Here in Atlanta, which is a huge market for all snack food companies, Lance is known for its piss poor service. You talk about your software being superior yet you couldn't even service your accounts unless it was your day to go to the account. I dont know how many times I was told by numerous Lance guys they couldn't service a account until its normal service day and if they needed product the day before, well to damn bad because they couldn't create a ticket on a non service day. That didn't change until Matthew (SE Regional VP) heard about and made Lance change it.

Oh and BTW, you will be trained on our handheld coming in June. So I guess you are the only one that thinks your handheld (even though we use the same type) and software is superior because the company is switching to our software. Deal with it.
IO Florida

Miami, FL

#468 May 1, 2011
I remember the good old days of Snyders.
we used to get 20% commission. The pounders used
to be $1.69. Now they are $2.99. How times have change!!
My biggest concern is all the price increases.
corn up 101% from a year.
wheat up 53% from a year.
AND THE LIST GOES ON AND ON!!

INFLATION IS AFFECTING OUR BUSINESS BIG TIME!!

FREAKING FEED UP WITH GAS, TERMS AND LACK OF PRODUCTS IN THE WAREHOUSE.

I do enjoy my GIG besides the points mentioned above. Especially being INDEPENDENT and the relationships I have established with the receivers, managers, etc.

I have the best ACCOUNTANT for my TAXES!!!
A big advantage to this type of business!!

The key to this business is to minimize all the EXPENSES to a miniscule.
No more Frito

Biloxi, MS

#469 May 1, 2011
Bootyman wrote:
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LOL the facts state otherwise.
http://www.gurufocus.com/news_print.php...
In three months Lance lost 4.5 million.
$95.2 million as of December 27, 2008, to $90.7 million as of March 28, 2009
I wont disagree with how cheap Snyder's is nor will I say they are organized because they are not.
But I will say this, you cannot even compare the amount of income I made on a 8500 to 9000 route to a Lance route doing the same. You might have made 40k (the very best route) at Lance where as the avg for a typical small route IO at Snyder's is over 60K. Well at least in Atlanta. There has been years where I sold part of my route off and made a additional 35k even after they cheated me out of 5k for closing I was told I didnt have to pay. In my years with Snyders I have sold two complete routes and spit my route twice. Each time I got checks of five figures on top of what I made for the year. No one at Lance, not even the Zone Managers (I know this for a fact as one of my best buddies is a DM for Lance in Charleston SC), can say the same. I dont know one IO in Atlanta that doesnt make more than the DM's and there is a few of us that make more than the Zone Managers. Some words of wisdom, dont come over unless you have a wife/husband with insurance!!!!!!!
As for partner brands, its a small part of my business.
Thats all fine and all---that you are making such Good Money---But you forget to add up all your expences from what you have earned---
Gas---insurance--vehicle and liability---vehicle expences as well as accounting services and so on---also the cost of vacations per year you take as opposed to the vacations per year that a company rep earns...
Regardless nothing at this point can change----The future now is we are all going to be independent---all ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY!!!
Whether that means Lance products sell better or Snyder's--- your money depends on BOTH!!! So it may be time to start devising a plan to make better drop(volume per store)based on what sells!!!

Good Luck too all---

For all the Lance reps out there---Has any area started the transition yet---any info as to what has transpired yet---
those that have had there meetings---any word to what went on there.
And finally---I heard Kansas City and or some other Missouri Markets are about to start or have already started the transition process...

Thanks too All...
IO Florida

Miami, FL

#470 May 1, 2011
Beginning this week Lance Reps will be loading their trucks at our warehouse in Miami.
The warehouse personnel has implemented a schedule to avoid havoc at the warehouse.
Some people will be loading in the morning, others will be in the afternoon.
Also, they are going to open on Saturdays for loading. I hope is not that BAD to load!!

Since: Apr 11

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#471 May 1, 2011
No more Frito wrote:
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Thats all fine and all---that you are making such Good Money---But you forget to add up all your expences from what you have earned---
Gas---insurance--vehicle and liability---vehicle expences as well as accounting services and so on---also the cost of vacations per year you take as opposed to the vacations per year that a company rep earns...
Regardless nothing at this point can change----The future now is we are all going to be independent---all ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY!!!
Whether that means Lance products sell better or Snyder's--- your money depends on BOTH!!! So it may be time to start devising a plan to make better drop(volume per store)based on what sells!!!
Good Luck too all---
For all the Lance reps out there---Has any area started the transition yet---any info as to what has transpired yet---
those that have had there meetings---any word to what went on there.
And finally---I heard Kansas City and or some other Missouri Markets are about to start or have already started the transition process...
Thanks too All...
Yes my expenses are high but even with them I still earn way more than your best paid Lance guy. Its the whole reason I invested in Snyder's to begin with. I left a 55K year job with benefits for the freedom of being self employed. I never take 7 day vacations. I never did when I had company vacations. We take 4 day trips almost monthly.Sothing I could never do when I worked for someone else. I leave backstock and my help goes out and throws it up while I am gone.

As for the merger, here in GA we are going to start pulling from the same warehouse as the Lance guys come June. The warehouse is huge compared to what we have now and much nicer. Its also about 15 minutes from my house so that going to work out great for me. Now if we could get Snyder's back to wanting to make money again so we all can.

Lance guys, if Snyder's changes their system back to the way it was,there is a huge chance you could almost double what you are earning now even with expenses. No benefits but wouldnt you rather decide when you are going on vacation, who you use for insurance, what time you want to start, when you call it a day? No boss and where you can tell your DM to take a flying jump if they try to tell you to do something that goes against the best interest of your company?
Yaz in Florida

Miami, FL

#472 May 1, 2011
Good lance guy,

you have yet to answer what area you are from.
IO Florida

Miami, FL

#473 May 1, 2011
FYI most of my Store Grocery Managers are unhappy with the Lance Reps service, they can't wait for the transition. They are hoping that the Snyders IO will be doing their stores. Lance has a bad reputation down here. There has been 3 reps from Lance in the last year in my area. I have been told personally that they want me to service their store and that goes for most of the Snyders IO down here.

Since: Apr 11

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#474 May 1, 2011
i would like to thank keith ulrich for starting this thread. keith are you there? come back to us buddy.Just look at the monster you alone created with one simple ? in 2009
No more Frito

Biloxi, MS

#475 May 1, 2011
Bootyman wrote:
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Yes my expenses are high but even with them I still earn way more than your best paid Lance guy. Its the whole reason I invested in Snyder's to begin with. I left a 55K year job with benefits for the freedom of being self employed. I never take 7 day vacations. I never did when I had company vacations. We take 4 day trips almost monthly.Sothing I could never do when I worked for someone else. I leave backstock and my help goes out and throws it up while I am gone.
As for the merger, here in GA we are going to start pulling from the same warehouse as the Lance guys come June. The warehouse is huge compared to what we have now and much nicer. Its also about 15 minutes from my house so that going to work out great for me. Now if we could get Snyder's back to wanting to make money again so we all can.
Lance guys, if Snyder's changes their system back to the way it was,there is a huge chance you could almost double what you are earning now even with expenses. No benefits but wouldnt you rather decide when you are going on vacation, who you use for insurance, what time you want to start, when you call it a day? No boss and where you can tell your DM to take a flying jump if they try to tell you to do something that goes against the best interest of your company?
Thanks Bootyman

I am glad to hear that Lance reps now have a chance to make more money than what the reps have been making---especially for all the hard work they have been doing for the company---You know for what a Lance rep was required to do(maintaing their warehouse---sales---display set-ups---cleaning their trucks---accounting work---maintaing deposits---merchandising---ord ering---loading trucks---unloading trucks---inventory---sales plans and so on)the reps now will be doing a little less work and reap the benefits of this being their business!!! compared to what the Frito reps do---Lance reps wore TOOOO MANY HATS ---FOR A LOT LESS MONEY!!! Frito people were seperated from Bulk routes(maybe 2 wal-marts and a store such as a Winn-Dixie---or a convient route person---gas stations-- small stores-- but through it all they had more help and support---such as merchandisers and or a 2nd person helping---not Lance---
But that is all going to change now---Independent Baby!!!

Since: Apr 11

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#476 May 1, 2011
boxhard wrote:
i would like to thank keith ulrich for starting this thread. keith are you there? come back to us buddy.Just look at the monster you alone created with one simple ? in 2009
I was told by a Snyder salesman that Keith works for MIKE-STALES. Leave him there.

Since: Apr 11

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#477 May 1, 2011
lol
The crap

Bowling Green, KY

#478 May 1, 2011
Hey frito your living in lala land if you believe that io will be better
hank florida

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#479 May 1, 2011
being a IO is what u make it!! If u want u push hard and make a great living and possible split or selling off of some stores!! Or you do what u want make a nice living and get done by 12 every day!! Not a bad life!
Mad Wife

Indianapolis, IN

#480 May 1, 2011
Has anyone split and hired someone to run the second route and took a cut of the pay? Is that allowed or do you have to split and sale?

Just wondering cause some Mike-Sells guys do that.
hank florida

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#481 May 1, 2011
well if all is true on this transition Im sure mike sells is bye bye sounds like he is a wholesaler!!
Bryce

Sunset, TX

#482 May 1, 2011
Got our 60 day letter here in DFW area last week. Have a snyders route with a service contract. Did someone say that snyders bought this routes back with a service contract?!? How's does that work?

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