Snyder's of Hanover
gasnack

Mcdonough, GA

#4511 Sep 16, 2013
Has any heard they changing the terms when we get the product
Va Sucker

Smithfield, VA

#4512 Sep 16, 2013
gasnack wrote:
Has any heard they changing the terms when we get the product
They are changing way to much at once! They are trying to finance all their routes themselves so they get mad interest on the loans! They make it impossible for the banks to finance the loans, so they get the in house financing. Then after a couple years they change up to drive us out of business. Then they get another sucker in here with false numbers and the cycle just repeats itself!!! Fu$king CROOKS!!!!
Flying Tigers

Newington, CT

#4513 Sep 16, 2013
Dce wrote:
<quoted text>variety isn't always the spice of life! I don't know about you but all I have us a 16 ft box truck it us hard to grow sales with 150 items in one account all with only one facing. It is hard to to be efficient, and there is no way to effectively merchandise 150 items we are not Keebler or nabisco.
Good point,
Hoosier

Dunedin, FL

#4514 Sep 16, 2013
I got out.... disgusting closing process for sure....
Bent over Billy

Frederick, MD

#4515 Sep 19, 2013
NAPA dropped Michael Waltrip Racing today as a sponsor in NASCAR, due to the cheating in the Richmond race. Maybe S-L could sponsor them, as they are used to cheating us, lol
Clocker

Saint Petersburg, FL

#4516 Sep 19, 2013
What route did you have Hoosier?
Wharfs for cape cod

Shippensburg, PA

#4517 Sep 19, 2013
Get ready guys - were getting set to lose half our space in Walmart. You better check at store level because our bosses either no nothing or aren't telling us. We are definately losing under performing items and cape cod and torts.
Long rod

United States

#4518 Sep 19, 2013
Wharfs for cape cod wrote:
Get ready guys - were getting set to lose half our space in Walmart. You better check at store level because our bosses either no nothing or aren't telling us. We are definately losing under performing items and cape cod and torts.
probably 2014 plan is more pallets forced down our throats so they can pay you less and less self space !
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4519 Sep 20, 2013
cheating the ibo again SL wrote:
We pay 17% of partner brands promos when SL gets 100% credit from them. So they are making 17% off our hard work. Just another way SL cheats its ibo's. Ask any partner brand rep if this isn't the case. The OTB regional manager confirmed it we I pressed the issue as to why I should push his product while on sell only to make less money.
isn't funny that in this quarter we can get s "bonus" if up 10% on core brands but the company is pushing partner brands hard. Some of which we don't have the right to in arkansas. This company screws their IBO. Lets takeaway the bump on cstores and act like by bumping commision rates tothe same that we changed anything. We should SUE them for breech. The make huge profits off our work. And DM are useless
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4520 Sep 20, 2013
Long rod wrote:
<quoted text> probably 2014 plan is more pallets forced down our throats so they can pay you less and less self space !
you mean you guys have salty space in your mods? I can't even get store level sales now because its not in a mod. Our routes are so disproportioned (which we were told wasn't going to hapoen) and can't even get equity routes because of a snyders contract with GoldenFlake even though we service almost all stores now except Kroger. As IBO we need to stand ground and sue these guys for breech. How many days has your DM run with you? Or checked your bin? Which is right in the contract.
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4521 Sep 20, 2013
Why is it that our settlement have not changed as promised? Nor the IBO website? And we must clear a week or it doesn't count. 20% on cash routes is stupid I use that. In gas alone. If we have enough of a revolt maybe we can get a class action agaist these guys for bad business practices and breech of contract.
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4522 Sep 20, 2013
just trying to get by wrote:
<quoted text>No, straight from the SE RVP. We asked our zone manager who asked about this issue in a regional meeting.
shoot I'm just glad I get any PA back. The way this company lies. Why would we not get 100% back? Who sets the promo? For god sakes no national commerials like they promised. No salty or archway mod space in walmart? No abilty to get ahead. Conveince store business tanking. No local warehouse?
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4523 Sep 20, 2013
Mikeking wrote:
<quoted text>
You buy them for 2.03.... Sell them at 2.25+..21=2.46......2.46-2.03= .43/2.46=17.4%....get it "Wayne".?
Margins are the issues "Buckshot"
margins are s huge issues. These corpate suits lie to us. And don't helo us grow. Is anyone else here in tn ok or ar?
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4524 Sep 20, 2013
wny wrote:
<quoted text>
PA money is sales my friend...if there is no difference in adding or subtracting then why doesn't S-L do it that way ? They will tell you to subtract from your cost, but on the settlement sheet it is added to your sales..Why? And the fact that it is added to your sales makes it part of your sales...get it? GOOD DAY !!
no need to figure pa guys . Print your route settlement report at the end of the dat.
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4525 Sep 20, 2013
Fat frank wrote:
<quoted text> simple math u buy 7,000 and sell 8000 and gave 500 in allowances your check would be 910 minus 35 service charge and any route note ... Where guys get into trouble is when they over sell get a big check then are upside down
wow! You get paid... I have generated 3 checks in 18mths. For a total of under $2000. Rediculos. Last year at tax time my DM decided to sell 4ft chip space + 3ft promo rack + fems into 2 indy grocery stores. Around $2500 in sales..$$$ stops.. my next bill $2409 and the next 3mths picked all that shit up. Pounders, cc , doublers, tort chips, toms flat. I warned him this wouldn't work... but he told me he was trying to grow my route. I just paid another $1400 and need to work off anither $1400 + this weeks load. This company is a joke. These dms are trash and liars. Our rts are suppose to be close to home and evenly divided. Then why do I drive 90m west. 90m s. And hardly cover fuel
Flying Tigers

Rochester, NY

#4526 Sep 20, 2013
arkansasSLscamedIBO wrote:
<quoted text>wow! You get paid... I have generated 3 checks in 18mths. For a total of under $2000. Rediculos. Last year at tax time my DM decided to sell 4ft chip space + 3ft promo rack + fems into 2 indy grocery stores. Around $2500 in sales..$$$ stops.. my next bill $2409 and the next 3mths picked all that shit up. Pounders, cc , doublers, tort chips, toms flat. I warned him this wouldn't work... but he told me he was trying to grow my route. I just paid another $1400 and need to work off anither $1400 + this weeks load. This company is a joke. These dms are trash and liars. Our rts are suppose to be close to home and evenly divided. Then why do I drive 90m west. 90m s. And hardly cover fuel
Why do you even let a DM sell for you .. It's your route, you paid for it , so tell them NOT to do that again.. Where this company gets into trouble is when they treat us as employees. They were sued once before for doing exactly that . Time once again?
arkansasSLscamed IBO

United States

#4527 Sep 21, 2013
Flying Tigers wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do you even let a DM sell for you .. It's your route, you paid for it , so tell them NOT to do that again.. Where this company gets into trouble is when they treat us as employees. They were sued once before for doing exactly that . Time once again?
yeah I am thinking so. I really was pushed into a corner by my DM because I was asking for some reallignment of the territory. Since here we are not equity routes which Is a whole nother issue. And he sold these stores (3 total paying $1500) to add all this product to the stores. And people don't buy all that shit especpially when frito Is 2/5 all day. And then the hp went to 3.39 I was timid on doing it. And yes they try to do all these c/d with walmart all the time now
arkansasSLscamed IBO

United States

#4528 Sep 21, 2013
snacktime wrote:
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I don't care about all this bullshit about promo allowances, but then again you stated that this forum was created by a former IBO that wanted answers which maybe 1 out of 5 distributors know the answers here,(and them guys don't speak up hardly) When I found this forum (I read all the pages)Guess what, there are answers going on here but the majority are so false I was laughing my ass off. Distributors asking questions and other
distributors with a one track mind telling them the wrong advice basically because they have Zero experience. This snackfood business is all I know, and now I'm going to just sit back and eat some okedoke popcorn and read these posts from time to time. Thanks former utz guy! btw, its getting cloudy with a chance of meatballs in this place.
hey snacktime you are right the only thing most of the people on here have in common is they are unhappy with the way sl treats them as an IBO. I for one now have piece of mind knowing its not just me. I mean I was thinking "maybe I just don't have business sense" etc. I have figured out one thing, treating us like employees is a problem. One guy in our distr. Wanted to drop a cash acct with low sales and sl wasn't having it. They also need to put our company name on cash invoices not theirs. Or maybe they just realize they collect most of it in the long run anyways.$20 for every $100 and most cstores I have barely make it above $100 eow or e3w
arkansasSLscamed IBO

United States

#4529 Sep 21, 2013
WNY wrote:
<quoted text>
WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! Snyders adds the promo to your sales! They will tell you to subtract the PA from your loads and it comes out to 19%. Well then why the fuck don't they subtract the PA???? It is added to YOUR SALES! Christ sakes , you sound like a Snyders shill.
so on my end of day when I print a settlement report it shows promo dollars to get the percentage right do I just divide my chsrge sales or the daily settlement number w the promo dollars?
arkansasSLscamed IBO

Vilonia, AR

#4530 Sep 21, 2013
Fat frank wrote:
Anybody selling that lemonade yet ? And is it selling ?
I ordered some. It doesn't sell that well unless you can secure a cooler. The bright ideas event was totally mishandled. I picked up most of the glass bt I dropped off. And the kicker we actually don't have the contract in most of the state. AB non alch does. Just another example of snyders screwing ibo. Did they buy back this crap? Nope...

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