Snyder's of Hanover
utzman

Boston, MA

#4428 Sep 7, 2013
WNY wrote:
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!! Snyders adds the promo to your sales! They will tell you to subtract the PA from your loads and it comes out to 19%. Well then why the fuck don't they subtract the PA???? It is added to YOUR SALES! Christ sakes , you sound like a Snyders shill.
I'm not wrong. What's the difference between adding to sales or subtracting from loads? NOTHING! Your settlement comes out the same either way. My point is that to figure profit margin you only base it on sales. PA money is not sales!
utzman

Boston, MA

#4429 Sep 7, 2013
Ibosc wrote:
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You add 83% of the promotional dollars back onto your daily sales. If that was not the case, I would have a negative profit margin in Walmart every time I deliver. All of the promo dollars are what I sell in. We just have to eat 17 of the promo dollars. Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but I have ran a route for several years and have just started having issues with my paperwork not adding up. Up until that point, I could figure my paycheck within a few dollars.
Yes you are misunderstanding me. I'm only talking about when figuring profit margin you never add PA back into sales to figure it out. For settlement purposes yes, for margin no.
wny

Pittsford, NY

#4430 Sep 7, 2013
Long rod wrote:
<quoted text> maybe allowance ? We haven't got them yet ... Or maybe they had to take some of our commish cause they changed the bags ... Lol What a joke
Long Rod, yes , the low percentage is because of the big PA....the bigger PA, the less money in our pocket
wny

Pittsford, NY

#4431 Sep 7, 2013
WNY wrote:
15.6% on Halloween pretzels, where is our other 3.5%?
Judged "clueless", really Mike ? I think you are the clueless one...get your calculator out and figure out the percentage, then get back to me dumb ass!
wny

Pittsford, NY

#4432 Sep 7, 2013
WNY wrote:
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I have been telling corporate for years about the percentages for years with no solid answers ! I'm told I don't know how to figure percentages correctly, well that's bullshit! Problem is they know mist IBo's don't and the ones that do they just lie to, or they figure there is nothing we will do
Hey King? What name do you use on here? It most certainly is you who judges every comment negatively, Freakin' kiss ass
wny

Pittsford, NY

#4433 Sep 7, 2013
utzman wrote:
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I'm not wrong. What's the difference between adding to sales or subtracting from loads? NOTHING! Your settlement comes out the same either way. My point is that to figure profit margin you only base it on sales. PA money is not sales!
PA money is sales my friend...if there is no difference in adding or subtracting then why doesn't S-L do it that way ? They will tell you to subtract from your cost, but on the settlement sheet it is added to your sales..Why? And the fact that it is added to your sales makes it part of your sales...get it? GOOD DAY !!
wny

Pittsford, NY

#4434 Sep 7, 2013
utzman wrote:
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Yes you are misunderstanding me. I'm only talking about when figuring profit margin you never add PA back into sales to figure it out. For settlement purposes yes, for margin no.
The only accurate way to figure your margin is to ADD the PA back into your sales....that is exactly what Snyders does...they do not subtract from your loads...why they don't is pretty obvious
utzman

Boston, MA

#4435 Sep 7, 2013
wny wrote:
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PA money is sales my friend...if there is no difference in adding or subtracting then why doesn't S-L do it that way ? They will tell you to subtract from your cost, but on the settlement sheet it is added to your sales..Why? And the fact that it is added to your sales makes it part of your sales...get it? GOOD DAY !!


Who did you sell those dollars to? You get paid on cost into the store. PA money has nothing to do with sales!
Dce

Newark, NJ

#4436 Sep 7, 2013
There is no point in getting mad at each other. The reality of the situation is that the math isn't going to work in our favor, ever! So if you can't take it get out and if you can figure out the way to be profitable, and every route if ran correctly can be profitable stay.
utzman

Boston, MA

#4437 Sep 7, 2013
wny wrote:
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The only accurate way to figure your margin is to ADD the PA back into your sales....that is exactly what Snyders does...they do not subtract from your loads...why they don't is pretty obvious
Margin=Profit/Store cost. Bottom line.
Sell in at $1.00 you paid .82 .18 profit
. 18/1= 18% very simple right?
Same bag you sell in at .90 instead
.08 instant profit plus .082 pa back =.162 total profit
.162/.90= 18% profit
Wharfs for cape cod

Shippensburg, PA

#4438 Sep 7, 2013
You guys waste more time sweating the dumbest stuff. Your wasting our time. If you can't figure your settlement by now you should get out.
WNY

Rochester, NY

#4439 Sep 7, 2013
Wharfs for cape cod wrote:
You guys waste more time sweating the dumbest stuff. Your wasting our time. If you can't figure your

settlement by now you should get out.
Never said I can't figure it out! I now all to well that we are getting screwed over. Period
WNY

Rochester, NY

#4440 Sep 7, 2013
utzman wrote:
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Who did you sell those dollars to? You get paid on cost into the store. PA money has nothing to do with sales!
PA's are most certainly part of sales, Snyders ADDS the promo into your sales. What part of that don't you understand Utzman ?
abc123

Hanover, PA

#4441 Sep 8, 2013
Food for thought,,,, Just print out a route summary for the day...look at the inventory amount you sold that day. Subtract that from your total sales for the day...that is what u made for the day minus your share of promo dollars. Ie..say inventory sold was 1000.00..total sales 1200.00 minus 10.00 your share of promos...you made 190.00 that day which is 19%...of course this will vary as we don't get paid 19% on everything but instead of breaking down each store each case each bag I found this to be an easier way to figure what percentage I'm making...hopefully this helps some??
WNY

Rochester, NY

#4442 Sep 8, 2013
abc123 wrote:
Food for thought,,,, Just print out a route summary for the day...look at the inventory amount you sold that day. Subtract that from your total sales for the day...that is what u made for the day minus your share of promo dollars. Ie..say inventory sold was 1000.00..total sales 1200.00 minus 10.00 your share of promos...you made 190.00 that day which is 19%...of course this will vary as we don't get paid 19% on everything but instead of breaking down each store each case each bag I found this to be an easier way to figure what percentage I'm making...hopefully this helps some??
The 19% is assuming you only paid out 10.00 in PA,
WNY

Rochester, NY

#4443 Sep 8, 2013
abc123 wrote:
Food for thought,,,, Just print out a route summary for the day...look at the inventory amount you sold that day. Subtract that from your total sales for the day...that is what u made for the day minus your share of promo dollars. Ie..say inventory sold was 1000.00..total sales 1200.00 minus 10.00 your share of promos...you made 190.00 that day which is 19%...of course this will vary as we don't get paid 19% on everything but instead of breaking down each store each case each bag I found this to be an easier way to figure what percentage I'm making...hopefully this helps some??
Bottom line? You only make 19% when you sell product at full revenue... The higher the PA the lower your margin.. Snyders should give us back 100% of the PA...then this discussion would be mute
Long rod

United States

#4444 Sep 8, 2013
WNY wrote:
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Bottom line? You only make 19% when you sell product at full revenue... The higher the PA the lower your margin.. Snyders should give us back 100% of the PA...then this discussion would be mute
that's never going to happen ... U notice when they run partner brands on sale they have some crazy allowance giving the store like 40 percent margin u know why cause partner brands pay for the allowance and that's another way to shake more money out of us ...
WNY

New Britain, CT

#4445 Sep 8, 2013
Long rod wrote:
<quoted text> that's never going to happen ... U notice when they run partner brands on sale they have some crazy allowance giving the store like 40 percent margin u know why cause partner brands pay for the allowance and that's another way to shake more money out of us ...
Exactly!! Partner brands gives Snyders 100% of the PA, then Snyders gives us only 81%. Nice chunk of money Snyders picks up each week from the IBO
Wharfs for cape cod

Shippensburg, PA

#4446 Sep 8, 2013
We only get 18% where I work so if you are getting 19% and having issues then you really should consider selling !
snacktime

Milton, WI

#4447 Sep 8, 2013
abc123 wrote:
Food for thought,,,, Just print out a route summary for the day...look at the inventory amount you sold that day. Subtract that from your total sales for the day...that is what u made for the day minus your share of promo dollars. Ie..say inventory sold was 1000.00..total sales 1200.00 minus 10.00 your share of promos...you made 190.00 that day which is 19%...of course this will vary as we don't get paid 19% on everything but instead of breaking down each store each case each bag I found this to be an easier way to figure what percentage I'm making...hopefully this helps some??
Even simpler 1,000 total sales X 19%= 190. This past Friday I sold $2,864.67 X 19%= 544.28. Don't have to get all technical with pa's to get a figure of what You made. We make 19% of our sales, plain and simple.

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