Snyder's of Hanover
Billy Joe Jack

Peakhurst, Australia

#4303 Aug 14, 2013
The pretzel game is gone, has been since Mr Salty hung himself in Vegas after a 3 day cocaine and hooker fueled blast.

All the fun has gone out of selling those salt laden high blood pressure bombs.

Maybe add some MSG or nicotine...y'know hook the kiddies.
snacktime

Whitewater, WI

#4304 Aug 14, 2013
WNY wrote:
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We lose 190.00 per 1,000 on Promo allowances , Snyders loses a big fat zero ! Wake up people, Snyder MAKES a shitload of money on the PA's they give out!
The Promo allowances kill you, but don't bother saying anything to the suits because they will tell you to sell if it bothers you that much. How's that for working together ?
Yea if you gave away 1,000 on allowances Snyders Covers 81% of that so you end up making 19% net. Snyders are losing money on PA's. You make 19% of the bottom line period. I don't see how you say we are losing if we put something on sale. If you sell 1 pretzel pound bag a week at full price 3.49 retail, 2.51 sdv, 2.03 your cost, you just made 48 cents.(when you put something on sale your volume will go up! I'm gonna say 3:1.) Now run those pounders on sale at 2/600 with a 26 cent allowance, 2.25 sdv,1.82 your cost. Now you only made 43 cents a unit which is less but you probably now sell 3 bags a week which = 1.29 in profits. What would you rather make 1.29 or .48 cents?? I run every thing I can on sale, more volume = more money in my pocket.
jimmy jo

Magee, MS

#4305 Aug 14, 2013
snacktime wrote:
<quoted text>Yea if you gave away 1,000 on allowances Snyders Covers 81% of that so you end up making 19% net. Snyders are losing money on PA's. You make 19% of the bottom line period. I don't see how you say we are losing if we put something on sale. If you sell 1 pretzel pound bag a week at full price 3.49 retail, 2.51 sdv, 2.03 your cost, you just made 48 cents.(when you put something on sale your volume will go up! I'm gonna say 3:1.) Now run those pounders on sale at 2/600 with a 26 cent allowance, 2.25 sdv,1.82 your cost. Now you only made 43 cents a unit which is less but you probably now sell 3 bags a week which = 1.29 in profits. What would you rather make 1.29 or .48 cents?? I run every thing I can on sale, more volume = more money in my pocket.
I don't have a problem with paying part of the promo what I have the problem with is EdLP in Walmart. I never heard anything about having to pay part of the discount given to Walmart. They should have just told us, your going to make 20%, 18%, and 15% in Walmart. Also, they can now mark everything up and run more promos to drive down our comm.
WNY

New Haven, CT

#4306 Aug 14, 2013
utzman wrote:
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Of course they lose. Let me ask,
When you sell an item with an allowance does SNL credit you money back on settlement? Yes. That costs them money.
When you sell full price they give nothing back.
You're drinking to much company of the kool aid! Snyders loses nothing on partner brand PA's, partner brands give Snyders either 81% of the PA or 100%. So they are losing zero, no doubt making at least an extra 19% because you cover 19% on every dollar. Now on Snyder products you might have a point , but realize that they are making way more of a profit on items that they manufacture
WNY

New Haven, CT

#4307 Aug 14, 2013
snacktime wrote:
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Yea if you gave away 1,000 on allowances Snyders Covers 81% of that so you end up making 19% net. Snyders are losing money on PA's. You make 19% of the bottom line period. I don't see how you say we are losing if we put something on sale. If you sell 1 pretzel pound bag a week at full price 3.49 retail, 2.51 sdv, 2.03 your cost, you just made 48 cents.(when you put something on sale your volume will go up! I'm gonna say 3:1.) Now run those pounders on sale at 2/600 with a 26 cent allowance, 2.25 sdv,1.82 your cost. Now you only made 43 cents a unit which is less but you probably now sell 3 bags a week which = 1.29 in profits. What would you rather make 1.29 or .48 cents?? I run every thing I can on sale, more volume = more money in my pocket.
Hey snack time?! You are as nutty as Utzman.. No doubt you are a Snyder employee or just plain stupid
WNY

New Haven, CT

#4308 Aug 14, 2013
snacktime wrote:
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Yea if you gave away 1,000 on allowances Snyders Covers 81% of that so you end up making 19% net. Snyders are losing money on PA's. You make 19% of the bottom line period. I don't see how you say we are losing if we put something on sale. If you sell 1 pretzel pound bag a week at full price 3.49 retail, 2.51 sdv, 2.03 your cost, you just made 48 cents.(when you put something on sale your volume will go up! I'm gonna say 3:1.) Now run those pounders on sale at 2/600 with a 26 cent allowance, 2.25 sdv,1.82 your cost. Now you only made 43 cents a unit which is less but you probably now sell 3 bags a week which = 1.29 in profits. What would you rather make 1.29 or .48 cents?? I run every thing I can on sale, more volume = more money in my pocket.
And they don't subtract the PA from your cost , they add it to your sales. Also, you don't take in your time, the cost of gas and more trips to the warehouse... That is when they open!!
WNY

New Haven, CT

#4309 Aug 14, 2013
jimmy jo wrote:
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I don't have a problem with paying part of the promo what I have the problem with is EdLP in Walmart. I never heard anything about having to pay part of the discount given to Walmart. They should have just told us, your going to make 20%, 18%, and 15% in Walmart. Also, they can now mark everything up and run more promos to drive down our comm.
Finally someone who makes sense!

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#4310 Aug 14, 2013
That is what I having been telling people. WHen I bought this route, I had no issue in sharing discounts when something was on sale, but I was never told that with WM, EVERYTHING is always on sale. I also have noticed that when SL looks at sales figures, they never factor stales. An 8500 route run by SL that has 600 a week in sales is no different than an 8500 route with $50 in stales run by us. If they would have priced my route based on NET sales, been a whole diferent story. Their "cram" mentaility would kill an IBO
utzman

Beverly, MA

#4311 Aug 15, 2013
WNY wrote:
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You're drinking to much company of the kool aid! Snyders loses nothing on partner brand PA's, partner brands give Snyders either 81% of the PA or 100%. So they are losing zero, no doubt making at least an extra 19% because you cover 19% on every dollar. Now on Snyder products you might have a point , but realize that they are making way more of a profit on items that they manufacture
No question your are right about partner brands, that is highway robbery. I totally agree with you there. As for them adding PA money onto sales that is just plain wrong, that money was never sold and can never be considered "sales." If it showed up on settlement as a discount in product as it should, there would be a lot less anger I think. I don't drink cool aid, I only see things for what they are.
Clocker

Saint Petersburg, FL

#4312 Aug 15, 2013
Heartbreak of Psoriasis wrote:
That is what I having been telling people. WHen I bought this route, I had no issue in sharing discounts when something was on sale, but I was never told that with WM, EVERYTHING is always on sale. I also have noticed that when SL looks at sales figures, they never factor stales. An 8500 route run by SL that has 600 a week in sales is no different than an 8500 route with $50 in stales run by us. If they would have priced my route based on NET sales, been a whole diferent story. Their "cram" mentaility would kill an IBO
When you buy the product, you own it. That's part of the deal and you should have accepted that fact from the beginning. You can't blame them for your stales. To be honest I can't understand how stales are a problem as long as you make sure you don't buy short coded product from the warehouse. The last year I had my route I did $500,000 in volume and had $1,700 in stales. 3.4%. Most of that stale was damaged product from shopping snackers that I picked up in the backroom. Pepperidge Farm bread has a 10 day code and they stay under 10%. If you can't control your stale with 2-3 months on most of the product you need to do a better job. Don't pack your displays front to back in slow stores. After you deliver Sat, that should be it. Let your displays sell down Mon-Wed. That's just 2 common ways that can help cut down stales.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#4313 Aug 15, 2013
You evidently did not read my post. I never complained one bit about having stales.
Clocker wrote:
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When you buy the product, you own it. That's part of the deal and you should have accepted that fact from the beginning. You can't blame them for your stales. To be honest I can't understand how stales are a problem as long as you make sure you don't buy short coded product from the warehouse. The last year I had my route I did $500,000 in volume and had $1,700 in stales. 3.4%. Most of that stale was damaged product from shopping snackers that I picked up in the backroom. Pepperidge Farm bread has a 10 day code and they stay under 10%. If you can't control your stale with 2-3 months on most of the product you need to do a better job. Don't pack your displays front to back in slow stores. After you deliver Sat, that should be it. Let your displays sell down Mon-Wed. That's just 2 common ways that can help cut down stales.
WNY

New Haven, CT

#4314 Aug 15, 2013
utzman wrote:
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No question your are right about partner brands, that is highway robbery. I totally agree with you there. As for them adding PA money onto sales that is just plain wrong, that money was never sold and can never be considered "sales." If it showed up on settlement as a discount in product as it should, there would be a lot less anger I think. I don't drink cool aid, I only see things for what they are.
Finally we agree!! Bottom line....Snyders loses NOTHING on promotions , I brought that up to John McGinn and he told me that the 19% IBO's cover is to cover the cost of weekenders and ad space and there was no way Snyders would ever it back to us. Furthermore if I didn't like it then I should get out of this business .. He speaks from both sides of his mouth... On one hand we are his best customer on the other he wants us to bend over and take it without complaint.
texans

Conroe, TX

#4315 Aug 15, 2013
work saturday? Mon Tues Thurs Fri only.
WNY

New Haven, CT

#4316 Aug 15, 2013
And by me speaking my mind I have been told there will be retribution against me. So be it. That's what lawyers are for . 99% of the people posting on here are afraid to identify themselves, how freaking sad is that ? Stay up for yourselves damnit !!!
WNY

New Haven, CT

#4317 Aug 15, 2013
texans wrote:
work saturday? Mon Tues Thurs Fri only.
Texans? You're based in Rochester aren't you? Chances are you are being a wise ass or "Sweet"
Wharfs for cape cod

Shippensburg, PA

#4318 Aug 15, 2013
Speak your mind but not at the risk of losing your business. Make it work for you. Don't let McGinn have the last laugh. He will be on the street before long. He sounds like a real LOSER!!
WNY

Rochester, NY

#4319 Aug 15, 2013
Wharfs for cape cod wrote:
Speak your mind but not at the risk of losing your business. Make it work for you. Don't let McGinn have the last laugh. He will be on the street before long. He sounds like a real LOSER!!
True ... But up here we have to be careful about that... Say what you feel and you are shunned!
snacktime

Milton, WI

#4320 Aug 15, 2013
WNY wrote:
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Hey snack time?! You are as nutty as Utzman.. No doubt you are a Snyder employee or just plain stupid
That is bold to call someone stupid, what I wrote is common sense and not too much of that going on here. Apparently only a one track mind. I could double your profits in 6 months no problem.
snackman

New Bloomfield, PA

#4321 Aug 16, 2013
WNY wrote:
And by me speaking my mind I have been told there will be retribution against me. So be it. That's what lawyers are for . 99% of the people posting on here are afraid to identify themselves, how freaking sad is that ? Stay up for yourselves damnit !!!
Yes this it true and you are one of the 99% because im sure your name isn't WNY
WNY

Maine, NY

#4322 Aug 16, 2013
snackman wrote:
<quoted text>Yes this it true and you are one of the 99% because im sure your name isn't WNY
Snackman,
LOL ....thats true, but everyone up here knows who WNY is, and for that I get a lot of shit from everyone...oh well

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