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Snyders CEO

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Jul 20, 2013
 

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CapeCodChipMan wrote:
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In the same boat. Built the route up in 2 years. Secured a buyer and on May 1st, 10% deposit put down and under Binder. Here it is 10 weeks later and all I get is that it is moving through out the offices.
Procedure for selling routes changed "about that time" According to the new ZM here. Now it takes between 8 and 12 weeks from start to finish to sell a route since too many people are selling routes and the office at SoH is backed up in paperwork.
What a crock! I have seen them sell a route in under 30 days....as long as it benefits them
My accounting department is the best that we could afford. They will get you the check when we can, I am in the process of buying a 2014 custom Mercedes, this is a priority , You are number 271 on the list, please be patient.
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Snyders CEO wrote:
<quoted text>My accounting department is the best that we could afford. They will get you the check when we can, I am in the process of buying a 2014 custom Mercedes, this is a priority , You are number 271 on the list, please be patient.
your saving up for rogaine Biotch .,, quit lying !
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Jul 22, 2013
 
thanks for all the replies
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teamsters would have helped solve this problem.....vote yes to union if ever given chance.......this is the perfect example of what happens when the workers have no voive or leverage
wiseguy

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#4147
Jul 23, 2013
 
What are you talking about buying back routes? Where? For what reason would they do that? I'm happy with what I have unless they want to add Utz products and then they would have to merge with them. Give me the straight scoop.
HARD PRETZEL

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#4148
Jul 23, 2013
 
There is a hold on selling routes here right now. Looks like they will be buying routes back. Rumor has it all routes going forward will be combo. Get ready for the next hard pretzel coming your way.

Hope you guys haven't lost any partner brands.

You better believe when S-L decides to buy routes back it will be in their favor. I think they want to add more routes doing less volume. Could be a good chance to get the heck out for some or a perfect opportunity for a semi retired individual.
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What are you talking about buying back routes? Where? For what reason would they do that? I'm happy with what I have unless they want to add Utz products and then they would have to merge with them. Give me the straight scoop.

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There is no re routing or no hold on selling. Just got emails from DM stating we are now #3 in snack business and UTZ moved to #2 and Frito #1. They are asking everyone here to try to ask for displays and push, push for sales. While they sit on their asses and collect a pay check. I know for a fact there is a few ibo that are only doing what is neccessary for the ibo's to show them it will hurt in there pockets.

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Never say never on a re-route. They just did one down south a few months ago. They are all combo routes now. There was 2 kinds of routes for the most part. Walmart/targets and gas station routes and the other grocery changes on the other routes. Rural areas have to be combo routes or traditional as we call it. Old routes had 3-4 guys cris crossing each other. Now it's combo and u have your circle(square,triangle) whatever shape ur map is. Lol. They bought back all routes and re issued the routes. Actually came out better for all and more in the IO favor in my opinion.
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There is no re routing or no hold on selling. Just got emails from DM stating we are now #3 in snack business and UTZ moved to #2 and Frito #1. They are asking everyone here to try to ask for displays and push, push for sales. While they sit on their asses and collect a pay check. I know for a fact there is a few ibo that are only doing what is neccessary for the ibo's to show them it will hurt in there pockets.
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Jul 23, 2013
 
Bbqbob01 wrote:
Never say never on a re-route. They just did one down south a few months ago. They are all combo routes now. There was 2 kinds of routes for the most part. Walmart/targets and gas station routes and the other grocery changes on the other routes. Rural areas have to be combo routes or traditional as we call it. Old routes had 3-4 guys cris crossing each other. Now it's combo and u have your circle(square,triangle) whatever shape ur map is. Lol. They bought back all routes and re issued the routes. Actually came out better for all and more in the IO favor in my opinion.
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if the new route was smaller did they cut u a check ?
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Jul 23, 2013
 
screwed by Soh wrote:
There is no re routing or no hold on selling. Just got emails from DM stating we are now #3 in snack business and UTZ moved to #2 and Frito #1. They are asking everyone here to try to ask for displays and push, push for sales. While they sit on their asses and collect a pay check. I know for a fact there is a few ibo that are only doing what is neccessary for the ibo's to show them it will hurt in there pockets.
I seriously doubt utz is bigger than s-l ... Maybe in the northeast ? hell they are only in 1 chain down here

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Jul 24, 2013
 
Since we have to buy routes the guys with the non Walmart routes, their sales were down and had hardly if any equity in them. The Walmart routes were mostly good equity. So S-L bought routes back at what they sold it to us and the guys with equity got a check and the guys with negative equity, S-L ate the loss. And this is true cause I know one of the guys that was negative. My old route should have been running 7,000 plus but due to loss of space a some partner brands my route was averaging 6100 when they bought it back. I had around 1000 equity cause we all had only been into the old routes maybe 2 years or less so with low sales average and what i paid into the route i had a little equity. I bought the old route at a average of like 6450. The new route(11stops) I have now has a few more stops then my old one(7stops) but my weekly average at the moment is around 7,000 and we haven't enter peak season yet(late aug-jan).
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<quoted text> if the new route was smaller did they cut u a check ?
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I doubt Utz is bigger than S-L. If you think they are then show us the numbers that prove it!!!
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#4155
Jul 24, 2013
 
If you have a Walmart super center your average is going to go down, due to the amunt of direct ships going in. Besides the ones we know about, I have had 2 Wise in, and I suspect they are going to direct ship Wise 24 pack lunch packs in for back to school.
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Jul 24, 2013
 
Bent over Billy wrote:
If you have a Walmart super center your average is going to go down, due to the amunt of direct ships going in. Besides the ones we know about, I have had 2 Wise in, and I suspect they are going to direct ship Wise 24 pack lunch packs in for back to school.
Cant give wise away down south ...
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#4157
Jul 25, 2013
 
even if direct ship dont you have to handle: arrange then move ont to shelve over time. I would think you would get the commision.
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#4158
Jul 25, 2013
 
anyone know a good lawyer no tt o expensive to review distribution route contract and over see the purchase?

Appreciate any help
chipladttx

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Jul 25, 2013
 
the lawyer I spoke to said about $4k for his service start to finish
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Jul 25, 2013
 
Wiseguy wrote:
I doubt Utz is bigger than S-L. If you think they are then show us the numbers that prove it!!!
It must be a regional statistic. Except for a few direct ships to Wal Marts you never see any of the product here on the west coast of Florida.
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#4161
Jul 26, 2013
 
Do we only get 15% at Target. My pretzels bill in at 2.36 and I buy them from the warehouse for 2.03 Pcs are 2.45-2.15. That's only around 15% with no pa credit on the bill.
Bent over Billy

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#4162
Jul 26, 2013
 
They need to FIX these piece of shit handhelds we have. Spent 3 1/2 hours of MY time between on the phone with route supportless, and manualy entering all of my invoices. I am on my third handheld since we have changed to this new system, and this is the third time it has lost its memory. What in the hell am I paying 35.00 a week for, coffee and doughnuts for the office staff. Anyone else having issues like this?

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