Snyder's of Hanover
pretzelsinmyass

United States

#3962 Jun 19, 2013
Bs. They have no overhead. We do it all. F them. We should stop b!tching and do something. How is this not a monopoly? Making mass money off of us. While we struggle to make ends meet. Where is the money at. Work harder, sell more, more, more. Did that and got more, more, more stales. My @sshole has been sh!ft!ng salt for years now. Where is my money. Sell me a rt. At 10% interest. Making so much off of us for that. 50000 loan. Never given 50000. Gave a rt. That I own? Bs then why can I not sell what sells in my stores on my rt? Advertising, where? Seen like 5 commercials in 5 year's. Can I at least get some dinner with this side of rape. Fn thiefs. My son is proud of me, until he gets older and sees exactly what I do for a living. Vacation? What the f is that. Holidays? Every single one. It is snowing, f you run your rt. Your mom died, f you run your rt. You have surgery, f you run your rt. We have to unite and stop feeding these cats. A bunch of flea riddled fat felines. Where is that animal control officer from Ohio when you need him?
low baller

Hanover, PA

#3964 Jun 20, 2013
pretzelsinmyass wrote:
Bs. They have no overhead. We do it all. F them. We should stop b!tching and do something. How is this not a monopoly? Making mass money off of us. While we struggle to make ends meet. Where is the money at. Work harder, sell more, more, more. Did that and got more, more, more stales. My @sshole has been sh!ft!ng salt for years now. Where is my money. Sell me a rt. At 10% interest. Making so much off of us for that. 50000 loan. Never given 50000. Gave a rt. That I own? Bs then why can I not sell what sells in my stores on my rt? Advertising, where? Seen like 5 commercials in 5 year's. Can I at least get some dinner with this side of rape. Fn thiefs. My son is proud of me, until he gets older and sees exactly what I do for a living. Vacation? What the f is that. Holidays? Every single one. It is snowing, f you run your rt. Your mom died, f you run your rt. You have surgery, f you run your rt. We have to unite and stop feeding these cats. A bunch of flea riddled fat felines. Where is that animal control officer from Ohio when you need him?
I think you should go get a job at McDonalds their u dont have to sign a contract.Just clock in everyday and flip burgers sounds like a job u could handleYou new what the contract detailed so if u new why did u decide to become a ibo
Wharfs for cape cod

Newville, PA

#3965 Jun 20, 2013
No question you need to run at least 9000-9500 to make this work. If not I'd be looking to sell.
Clocker

Saint Petersburg, FL

#3966 Jun 20, 2013
For all you IBO's that complain about not getting a vacation, you can take as much time off as you want. Just hire me. When I had my route I took all the time off I wanted. I paid my vacation man 10% of the sales with a guarantee of $125 a day. I made 7% for being off and enjoying myself with my family while the vaca man was happy to make 10% on my $9,000 a week route.
Wharfs for cape cod

Newville, PA

#3967 Jun 20, 2013
I also take vacation. Those I will not give up!
TheGrassIsGreene r

Fairmont, WV

#3968 Jun 20, 2013
I recently sent S-L my letter of breach of contract. Today I got a letter in the mail saying they owe me around 3k. What I dont understand is how they can take 16k off the top for the last order that I sold. Shouldnt the orders that the DM sold go against that 16k balance? Just curious if anyone else has been through the process. Just a word of advice to all, get the hell out if you dont like it. I did, got a JOB with benefits and paychecks. Quality of life is far better now. I know how it feels though, feeling trapped. Best decision i ever made to just walk away. Good luck to you all in whatever you decide to do. Thank you in advance!
Snyder Ho

Kearney, MO

#3969 Jun 20, 2013
frustrated wrote:
Just a thought...We all want our routes to grow..if u want to just fill shelves..I doubt u will get much growth by doing that...pushing promos...displays are the way to go! Example..I have a store that I have very limited space but average 1200.00 a week. I would be lucky to run 700.00 a week if I just filled shelves..so..500.00 a week in displays makes that store worth say 19200.00 compared to 11200.00..just imagine if u have say 7 stores and all of them together would be an extra 56,000.00 in equity based on those numbers. If equity isn't why u want to grow ur route maybe Uts, Frito Lay would be a better fit for u? Just remember, they have issues too. Snyders has a lot of issues and could help us ibo's if they chose too..however, its on us to take care of ourselves and grow our own routes. It would be nice to have their support and understanding but we all know they care about "their" stock price and that's it! Sure the incentive is a nice gesture and they wouldn't have to do it but for everyone that does make an extra 500, 1000 or whatever how much do u think snyders made if they are willing to give that to u? Again, just some thoughts but its up to us to make our business work just would be nice if s-l worked with us a little better! The one question is...why are Pepperidge routes going 40-1 and snyders routes go 15-21 to 1 depending where ur at? We need S-L support to make our routes more desirable to get to that level..Hopefully someone in S-L thinks about that...just imagine how that just might make the stock price even go higher?
The reason Pepperidge Farm routes are gold and S-L routes are shit is because PF cant come in and make you sell your route or stores. If they do take your route they have to pay 125% of FMV. So their is some job security with PF. PF also doesn't make you pay for allowances. They pay off of what you take from Whse too. You take 5 grand in product from whse then you make 20%, 1000 bucks.
Wharfs for cape cod

Newville, PA

#3970 Jun 21, 2013
Has anybody been "made" to sell your accounts to put on a route???
Cold hard truth

Chicago, IL

#3971 Jun 21, 2013
Snyder Ho wrote:
<quoted text>
The reason Pepperidge Farm routes are gold and S-L routes are shit is because PF cant come in and make you sell your route or stores. If they do take your route they have to pay 125% of FMV. So their is some job security with PF. PF also doesn't make you pay for allowances. They pay off of what you take from Whse too. You take 5 grand in product from whse then you make 20%, 1000 bucks.
and u also pay 30-1 for pf Route ... The way to make money in this industry is to build your route and sell it off then build it again , 2 problems with Snyder routes though multiple is to low and the 7 percent they charge to split is a joke !
FORMER UTZ IBO

Littleton, CO

#3972 Jun 21, 2013
Cold hard truth wrote:
<quoted text> and u also pay 30-1 for pf Route ... The way to make money in this industry is to build your route and sell it off then build it again , 2 problems with Snyder routes though multiple is to low and the 7 percent they charge to split is a joke !
Different here for former Snyders IO's. We would only have to pay 5% for selling/splitting a route. It was in our contracts prior. Lance people got shafted. You have to pay 7%. If you have a BoA loan IBO's would have to pay 3% within the first year, 2% between 1-2 years, 1% from year 2-3, and after you've owned your route for more than 3 years all you have to do is pay the 7% selling fee. So you think S-L thought people would get out before 3 years without getting more money out of people? How smart is that? Your loan is with BoA and S-L get a piece of it if you sell your entire route. Routes are selling for the ratio around 18-20:1. The more people that know about S-l the less buyers out there.
Cold hard truth

Chicago, IL

#3973 Jun 21, 2013
FORMER UTZ IBO wrote:
<quoted text>
Different here for former Snyders IO's. We would only have to pay 5% for selling/splitting a route. It was in our contracts prior. Lance people got shafted. You have to pay 7%. If you have a BoA loan IBO's would have to pay 3% within the first year, 2% between 1-2 years, 1% from year 2-3, and after you've owned your route for more than 3 years all you have to do is pay the 7% selling fee. So you think S-L thought people would get out before 3 years without getting more money out of people? How smart is that? Your loan is with BoA and S-L get a piece of it if you sell your entire route. Routes are selling for the ratio around 18-20:1. The more people that know about S-l the less buyers out there.
hell I owned a different company route for 10 years and didn't pay anything when I sold the route , s-l just nickel and dimes u to death
snackman

New Bloomfield, PA

#3974 Jun 22, 2013
meeting was a waste of time. they think they gave us a lot . they were so excited at the meeting but the reality is they gave us 1%net but are giving back only 82% promo so we get 3/4 of a percent. Its something but im not impressed. They had a chase to do the right thing and failed in my opinion. we are still the lowest paid ibo's out there. They had a year and this is what they came up with. So sad to work with a company that thinks that little of the guys that drive their business.I will continue to run my so called business the way that I see fit. Because they do not care.
Wharfs for cape cod

Newville, PA

#3975 Jun 22, 2013
Snack man - you are completely right! The problem is that many of the IBO's in attendance were not at the first meeting when they said 19.5 percent. Yes, they could have made it right and they failed miserably! Marty is the current version of "Slick Willy" but when things start going south he hopefully will head to utz. Mike Rutter is all about himself. He did not hear anything. Dan Morgan? He confuses me. None of these guys even attempt to talk to IBO's so until these guys get really serious then it is what it is. When I see 19.5 then I will know they heard us! Plus when all these guys are making hundreds of thousands of dollars (and some millions - Carl, are you listening?) then how serious can you really take them?
pretzel boy

Webster, NY

#3976 Jun 22, 2013
Take care of your customers and don't put up displays. When you do you only help the company and as we all see they don't care about you. You will lose some equity in your route but it will be just a few thousand. Is that worth it to bust your ass?Maybe if they see display activity go down they might make some positive changes. Or they will try and find a breach of contract and get rid of you. I have seen that happen over the years...toe the line or you will be bought out. Nice huh ?
Ben Dover

Frederick, MD

#3977 Jun 23, 2013
Everyone needs to go out on Monday and sell all they can, go back to the warehouse and load extra heavy, KEEP THE STOCKHOLDERS HAPPY, they will take care of everything, lmfao

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#3978 Jun 23, 2013
If your in a terrible part of whatever city your are in, there is nothing Snyders can it will do. If you think something is wrong and your DM is slacking, go above him. STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DON'T HAVE A VOICE!if your route is terrible and you speak up, who cares if u think they'll conspire to fire you! If you kick ass in your major accts they won't have a prayer in court on your firing. It's a numbers thing. I have heard Dms say "we're not the IOs employes. True but they need our numbers and will eventually have to work for it besides doin resets and 100's of emails. Speak up, I have a great DM and wish everyone has the experience we are having. You sell$3-3.50 bags of pretzels, numbers shouldn't be an issue (unless you are inner city) then u have to cater to this c store craziness they r doin. Good luck all and get off this site and speak up! Only way we can get better

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#3979 Jun 23, 2013
After the summer craziness , I will post a letter I will send to Dan Morgan and see if we can get a serious round table (with top salesman and a bottom salesman) from each business unit and really get the ball rolling on unty and brand success!! We aren't that far away. Maybe like 3-4 from each state and Snyders can have like 4 true town halls where they fly us out etc. if we are the 2nd biggest snack dist, we need to practice it. Large and small routes!
just trying to get by

Sevierville, TN

#3980 Jun 24, 2013
BfloPretzKing wrote:
After the summer craziness , I will post a letter I will send to Dan Morgan and see if we can get a serious round table (with top salesman and a bottom salesman) from each business unit and really get the ball rolling on unty and brand success!! We aren't that far away. Maybe like 3-4 from each state and Snyders can have like 4 true town halls where they fly us out etc. if we are the 2nd biggest snack dist, we need to practice it. Large and small routes!
hahaha they were too damn cheap to even feed us a lousy Golden Corral lunch and you think they will fly us to NC? Hahahaha Like Steve Perry sings, "don't stop believing"......
Cold hard truth

Chicago, IL

#3981 Jun 24, 2013
just trying to get by wrote:
<quoted text>hahaha they were too damn cheap to even feed us a lousy Golden Corral lunch and you think they will fly us to NC? Hahahaha Like Steve Perry sings, "don't stop believing"......
they cant afford it ... Have to pay the board members 350 k per year !

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#3982 Jun 24, 2013
They can afford it, and it doesn't have to be NC, I'll keep dreaming. Better than being a do nothing pessimistic whiner. If you sit there and do nothing, can u really complain

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