Snyder's of Hanover
Ben Dover

Frederick, MD

#3441 Apr 30, 2013
2nd worst smacl food comp wrote:
The whole system is broke, I never should have signed the contract. They will tell you that SL is second largest snack food company but they can't even afford to have employees with benefits or even pay gas and upkeep on fleet.
The out of stocks in the Littlestown warehouse have been horrible, if my store had that many holes I'm sure I would get a call, however they act like its no big deal, what do they care if we can't make any money.
Its not just Littlestown, its ALL warehouses, are going Hostess?
Fishin Buddy

Saint Petersburg, FL

#3442 Apr 30, 2013
"its ALL warehouses, are going Hostess?"

Can you phrase that a little better please? I don't know what you mean.
Struggling pretzel guy

Ardsley, NY

#3443 Apr 30, 2013
Why can't they pay us 100 percent on promo items? They want us to sell displays and grow the bussiness. That's wrong to punish us by only paying us 83 percent.
lame duck

Brookfield, WI

#3444 Apr 30, 2013
try getting 81 percent
WNY Distributer

Rochester, NY

#3445 Apr 30, 2013
lame duck wrote:
try getting 81 percent
I have always been told paying us 81% of promos is the only way that Snyders can stay in business !! Ha!!!
Lanceisinmypants

United States

#3446 Apr 30, 2013
WNY Distributer wrote:
<quoted text>
I have always been told paying us 81% of promos is the only way that Snyders can stay in business !! Ha!!!
we went from 2 company employees before merger to now about 6 driving around in soccer mom vans not doing a damn thing just burning gas .... there is where ur 20 percent went boys !
Former UTZ IBO

Littleton, CO

#3447 May 1, 2013
I hope you guys know that the IBO's that are making 17% commission on S-L products for the promos you are only receiving 83% of that 17%. If you're making 19% commission you're receiving 81% of the 19% from promos. It's all calculated in the net. It's really hard to see if S_L is true to that equation. You would have to be a math major to calculate the actual formula. However you want to see it S-L is not going away from it. Why? You know how much money is generated from charging promos to the IBO's?

I'm interested with what the outcome with the IBO who mentioned they prepared something to do with the commission and was going to present it to management.
Ben Dover

Frederick, MD

#3448 May 1, 2013
Fishin Buddy wrote:
"its ALL warehouses, are going Hostess?"
Can you phrase that a little better please? I don't know what you mean.
I meant, are we going the same route as Hostes, i.e. belly up
Fishin Buddy

Saint Petersburg, FL

#3449 May 1, 2013
I would say without a doubt, NO Ben. They're making money. The product sells. It's a quality product line from pretzels to chips to crackers. They're losing sales because of the assinine way they manage the routes but they are still strong. Stock might drop, Coke might buy them, but overall they're not going anywhere.
Ben Dover

Frederick, MD

#3450 May 1, 2013
Fishin Buddy wrote:
I would say without a doubt, NO Ben. They're making money. The product sells. It's a quality product line from pretzels to chips to crackers. They're losing sales because of the assinine way they manage the routes but they are still strong. Stock might drop, Coke might buy them, but overall they're not going anywhere.
You must be a D,M., go SL
WNY Distributer

Rochester, NY

#3451 May 1, 2013
Former UTZ IBO wrote:
I hope you guys know that the IBO's that are making 17% commission on S-L products for the promos you are only receiving 83% of that 17%. If you're making 19% commission you're receiving 81% of the 19% from promos. It's all calculated in the net. It's really hard to see if S_L is true to that equation. You would have to be a math major to calculate the actual formula. However you want to see it S-L is not going away from it. Why? You know how much money is generated from charging promos to the IBO's?
I'm interested with what the outcome with the IBO who mentioned they prepared something to do with the commission and was going to present it to management.
The ONLY way we make 19% is on full revenue product.....which are almost non existent ! The PA's screw everything up
sam

United States

#3452 May 2, 2013
Has anyone heard why lance got kicked out of bottom dollars? Keebler is getting more space. What are they doing with all the money they made off of us? Lose space to keebler!! Sad!!!
Bottom Dollar CEO
#3453 May 2, 2013
Keebler is tastier than Lance!
Fishin Buddy

Saint Petersburg, FL

#3454 May 2, 2013
Ben Dover wrote:
<quoted text>You must be a D,M., go SL
You're nuts. I'm retired and just happen to have an experiences, educated, non partisan view of the situation. I'm sorry my opinions don't fit your limited mindset.
whadda joke

Shippensburg, PA

#3455 May 2, 2013
They are getting what they pay for - most guys just filling shelves and giving just enough effort to get by. No pride in self or the company they represent - so sad but completely understandable. I know our DM struggles that we don't drink the "kool-aid" anymore but when you lose everything (vacations, personal days, 401K, etc) and then they expect you to work harder for less money??? Even the Dm's cant sell this crap anymore. Unfortunately I am just biding my time hoping for the best and , if not, selling next year unless there is some effort to satisfy the needs of the IBO. Im tired of satisfying the needs of the shareholders.
cookieman

Eagle, CO

#3456 May 2, 2013
123abc wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the info. Did google LLC versus S corp..didn't show much of a difference that I could see though but will check with an accountant..thanks!!
I believe you will save half of your self employment tax but it will change how you pay yourself.
WNY Distributer

United States

#3457 May 2, 2013
whadda joke wrote:
They are getting what they pay for - most guys just filling shelves and giving just enough effort to get by. No pride in self or the company they represent - so sad but completely understandable. I know our DM struggles that we don't drink the "kool-aid" anymore but when you lose everything (vacations, personal days, 401K, etc) and then they expect you to work harder for less money??? Even the Dm's cant sell this crap anymore. Unfortunately I am just biding my time hoping for the best and , if not, selling next year unless there is some effort to satisfy the needs of the IBO. Im tired of satisfying the needs of the shareholders.
I couldn't agree with you more
Ben Dover

Frederick, MD

#3459 May 3, 2013
Richard Nixon wrote:
Guys, is it normal for it to be so dead after football season until the kids get out of school? Man, it stinks out there for me. I'm assume it will pickup when the kids are out of school and people start BBQing. Am I correct? Doesn't help that Frito Lay always undercuts us in price when we put stuff onsale.
February, March and April are always slow, it will pick up, best week I have had in months, now.. lets see what the sell off is like.
SNYDERS OF BE HANGOVER

United States

#3460 May 4, 2013
I asked how much you guys were paying in taxes and I expect an answer!!
Old School Lance Man

Pink Hill, NC

#3461 May 4, 2013
SNYDERS OF BE HANGOVER wrote:
I asked how much you guys were paying in taxes and I expect an answer!!
CHILD, PLEASE ....

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