Snyder's of Hanover
WNY Distributer

Rochester, NY

#3420 Apr 26, 2013
Joey Dude wrote:
Yup, it's amazing how many people are leaving. I know a guy who bought a route 3 months ago and he already sold to buy a bready route. Just too many expenses and not enough sales. Snyders Lance needs to lower prices or help us out somehow. It's a damn shame !!!!!!!!!!
Snyders needs to give us a solid 20%!
Tattooed pretzel

Vienna, WV

#3421 Apr 27, 2013
WNY Distributer wrote:
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In what way are they talking about changing?
I wasn't given specific details but the different margins for cstore and grocery was mentioned, also the ability to carry inventory was mentioned as well as possibly working on a draw system.(Like car dealers)
123abc

Hanover, PA

#3423 Apr 27, 2013
Clocker wrote:
123abc, you can deduct a lot more of your expenses if you are an s corp. You'll save mucho $ at tax time. Ask any accountant.
Thanks for the info. Did google LLC versus S corp..didn't show much of a difference that I could see though but will check with an accountant..thanks!!
123abc

Hanover, PA

#3424 Apr 27, 2013
I believe the biggest improvement would be to pay us "topline"..stop making us pay "our share" of promos. Ive heard that the partner brands give snyders 100% of promo allowances when on sale..and obviously snyders/lance could absorb the cost of promos as a tax write off. Unless you have a route that doesn't have many promo dollars being giving back..giving us "topline" pay like we used to receive would be an improvement for most of us! My share of promo dollars this week was over 200.00..most weeks 150.00 to 200.00 a week in promo share...that's crazy! Those of us on zero terms would benefit by our loads being able to carry over till Monday..just a thought!
Lanceisinmypants

United States

#3425 Apr 27, 2013
123abc wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for the info. Did google LLC versus S corp..didn't show much of a difference that I could see though but will check with an accountant..thanks!!
not much difference ... S corp better chance of getting audited
WNY Distributor

United States

#3426 Apr 27, 2013
123abc wrote:
I believe the biggest improvement would be to pay us "topline"..stop making us pay "our share" of promos. Ive heard that the partner brands give snyders 100% of promo allowances when on sale..and obviously snyders/lance could absorb the cost of promos as a tax write off. Unless you have a route that doesn't have many promo dollars being giving back..giving us "topline" pay like we used to receive would be an improvement for most of us! My share of promo dollars this week was over 200.00..most weeks 150.00 to 200.00 a week in promo share...that's crazy! Those of us on zero terms would benefit by our loads being able to carry over till Monday..just a thought!
A nice idea would be to end the week on Tuesday instead of Saturday. This would give us the ability to carry a decernt inventory through the weekend and to have product on the truck come Monday morning...as it is now I try and not carry much inventory when Saturday rolls around thus killing my sales
Ben Dover

Frederick, MD

#3427 Apr 27, 2013
Those of you putting Wise in Walmart, check what you pay at the warehouse, verses what you sell it in at, 24 count variety pack, I paid 30.62, at warehouse, sold it in Walfart at28.62, check your invoices. Dm, standard answer, i'm looking into but no answer for 2 weeks.
2nd worst smacl food comp

Chambersburg, PA

#3428 Apr 27, 2013
The whole system is broke, I never should have signed the contract. They will tell you that SL is second largest snack food company but they can't even afford to have employees with benefits or even pay gas and upkeep on fleet.

The out of stocks in the Littlestown warehouse have been horrible, if my store had that many holes I'm sure I would get a call, however they act like its no big deal, what do they care if we can't make any money.
Lanceisinmypants

United States

#3429 Apr 27, 2013
Ben Dover wrote:
Those of you putting Wise in Walmart, check what you pay at the warehouse, verses what you sell it in at, 24 count variety pack, I paid 30.62, at warehouse, sold it in Walfart at28.62, check your invoices. Dm, standard answer, i'm looking into but no answer for 2 weeks.
its all the allowances they are giving Walmart ...
123abc

Hanover, PA

#3430 Apr 28, 2013
Is there a report we can print to show us a breakdown of allowances we are receiving per item per store? I know route summary report shows total allowances for snyders and partner brands but how do we know we are being credited properly without an individual breakdown? IE...Wal Mart?? Safeway invoices show a total allowance on invoice but not Wal Mart, etc. I feel all invoices should show allowances by item and a total at bottom of invoice. If audited, that would be a major cluster and since we pay a service fee for billing, etc I believe snyders/lance would have a lot of explaining to do to the "feds"????
Lanceisinmypants

United States

#3431 Apr 28, 2013
123abc wrote:
Is there a report we can print to show us a breakdown of allowances we are receiving per item per store? I know route summary report shows total allowances for snyders and partner brands but how do we know we are being credited properly without an individual breakdown? IE...Wal Mart?? Safeway invoices show a total allowance on invoice but not Wal Mart, etc. I feel all invoices should show allowances by item and a total at bottom of invoice. If audited, that would be a major cluster and since we pay a service fee for billing, etc I believe snyders/lance would have a lot of explaining to do to the "feds"????
look @ the end of the week settlement u get from snyders in the mail , they give u back 83 percent or 81 percent of allowances depending on what percentage u make in the area you are in .
just trying to get by

Atlanta, GA

#3432 Apr 28, 2013
I have heard going back to a system where what u load doesn't matter. You are paid by what u sell. Its the way they did it before the merger I heard. People got a check each week and they had no turnover.
why

Virginia Beach, VA

#3433 Apr 28, 2013
just trying to get by wrote:
I have heard going back to a system where what u load doesn't matter. You are paid by what u sell. Its the way they did it before the merger I heard. People got a check each week and they had no turnover.
yes they were the good old days. but why would they change anything that would benefit us ,the ibo's ? they must like the way things are going , loosing space in every store, the stores never beeing fully stocked.
123abc

Hanover, PA

#3434 Apr 28, 2013
Lanceisinmypants wrote:
<quoted text> look @ the end of the week settlement u get from snyders in the mail , they give u back 83 percent or 81 percent of allowances depending on what percentage u make in the area you are in .
I understand the percentages...how do u know u are receiving proper credit on the amount you sell? As an example..if you buy for 1.00 you should sell in for 1.19 or 1.17 depending on your area. If it shows the stores cost is say 1.12..how do you know you are receiving the proper allowance when they don't show a breakdown of allowances on invoice?
Ben Dover

Frederick, MD

#3435 Apr 28, 2013
123abc wrote:
<quoted text>I understand the percentages...how do u know u are receiving proper credit on the amount you sell? As an example..if you buy for 1.00 you should sell in for 1.19 or 1.17 depending on your area. If it shows the stores cost is say 1.12..how do you know you are receiving the proper allowance when they don't show a breakdown of allowances on invoice?
You must trust the crack accounting team of the empire, S-L would NEVER try to cheat you out of one dime, a nickle maybe, but not a dime, hahahaha
WNY Distributor

Rochester, NY

#3436 Apr 28, 2013
123abc wrote:
Is there a report we can print to show us a breakdown of allowances we are receiving per item per store? I know route summary report shows total allowances for snyders and partner brands but how do we know we are being credited properly without an individual breakdown? IE...Wal Mart?? Safeway invoices show a total allowance on invoice but not Wal Mart, etc. I feel all invoices should show allowances by item and a total at bottom of invoice. If audited, that would be a major cluster and since we pay a service fee for billing, etc I believe snyders/lance would have a lot of explaining to do to the "feds"????
I have asked that numerous times , but I have never received a adequate answer
just trying to get by

United States

#3437 Apr 29, 2013
why wrote:
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yes they were the good old days. but why would they change anything that would benefit us ,the ibo's ? they must like the way things are going , loosing space in every store, the stores never beeing fully stocked.
with people walking left and right I guess they finally realized the problem of people won't work if they don't get paid.
Not yo cheese

United States

#3438 Apr 29, 2013
When these clowns try to say they're the number two snack company that cracks me up! They might be number two but its a very very distant two! In fact , there not even on fritos radar! The problem with Snyder-lance is they've got a bunch of frito rejects running the company.
Snyders of Hangover

United States

#3439 Apr 29, 2013
Hi, What amount of taxes r you guyes paying
Yeah

Lemoyne, PA

#3440 Apr 29, 2013
Not yo cheese wrote:
When these clowns try to say they're the number two snack company that cracks me up! They might be number two but its a very very distant two! In fact , there not even on fritos radar! The problem with Snyder-lance is they've got a bunch of frito rejects running the company.
How did you know about the frito rejects? They seem to go right to Snyder's and then immediately bad mouth frito. Snyder's shelf space gets smaller and smaller. People from snyder's were bragging about the bigger than usual raises that they received this year, though. I guess it was from that extra money that the snyder's side received from the merger and inside stock tips that they used. Oh that's right. Nobody's really talked about that yet.

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