Snyder's of Hanover
snackman

Gettysburg, PA

#3190 Mar 18, 2013
no pity for fools wrote:
Everyone who is expressing their concerns about S-L should've taken a step back before signing a contract. You call yourself businessmen but what part of the contract didn't you understand? It hasn't changed from the time you all signed you lives away. Now, after the fact, you don't like the conditions? It's always been a one way contract. You just fell for their sales pitch. Instead of concentrating on telling everyone you are going to be a business owner before signing. You should READ and understand the contract first. Because if you did, you would have NEVER signed it. So, stop whining and deal with it. Service your routes like workers till you find another fool to purchase it from you.
You must do everything your dm tells you to do you are a puppet, who has no clue
george

Point Pleasant Beach, NJ

#3191 Mar 18, 2013
When u work for a public company u are working for the shareholders!! As a shareholder thats all I want to hear. More profit means more money for me!
snack guy

New Britain, CT

#3192 Mar 18, 2013
Bill wrote:
Guys, don't you get it? Everything snyders lance does is revolved around the stock price. They need to make more profit. Throw a few pallets in our Walmarts. Need more profit? Have fewer and fewer hot sales to compete with Frito Lay. They make more selling 5 bags of chips, than 12 bags at a discounted price. Need more profit for shareholders? Refuse to pay stores for more shelf space and display space. Why do you think Frito gets display space in half of the store? It costs money! When Snyders Lance comes up with their "plans" they consider stock price first, us 2nd. Nudff said
You forgot it is also about the executives and all the money they make. They all got 3% pay raises except Goode he got 10%. Don't care how much they make but they cut our pay. What these companies don't realize if you cut peoples pay eventually people will not be able to afford there product.
no pity for fools

Littleton, CO

#3193 Mar 19, 2013
snackman wrote:
<quoted text>You must do everything your dm tells you to do you are a puppet, who has no clue
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Please let me know what I said was wrong. I read the contract and knew all the clauses. I paid for my route so I wouldn't be trapped paying the 3% fee to BAC if I ever split or sold outright. I still only work 5 days/week. I still only push product I want in my stores. So explain to me where I must be a puppet? I stated the obvious with everyone who signed after the merger. I knew what I was up against. The newbies don't. All I said was if you READ and signed the contract you KNEW it was a one sided deal. I'm not changing for S-L. If my accounts are happy then S-L can do nothing about it. I also said unless you're in the middle of getting out, then suck it up and go hustle to build your territory up so when you do find a sucker to buy it it will be worth much more than what you bought it for. Business 101. No one is going to convince S-L to put more money into our pockets. So why whine about the crossdocks, the billbacks, the direct deliveries?

You can place all your anger on me. That's fine. How much is that making you? Concentrate on your route..........
Bill

Qingdao, China

#3195 Mar 19, 2013
No pity, you said you only push product into stores that you want. So I assume you are happy with all the direct shipped product, too?
no pity for fools

Littleton, CO

#3196 Mar 19, 2013
Bill wrote:
No pity, you said you only push product into stores that you want. So I assume you are happy with all the direct shipped product, too?
__________
I have communication with my DM and stores. I know when direct deliveries are coming and I make sure it goes on the floor right away. I don't care for the DM, but you ever hear the line keep your friends close, your enemies closer? And store level knows it's S-L product, so when there are numerous cases left I will place it out back, not take it out of the store. They understand we have to make a living out there too. It's all about communication.

Until you find something better and sell your route we are all in the same boat. Unless some one out there wants to start a union I need to look out for myself and try to make a living.

And for the product that doesn't sell when I need to fill a 4ft bay. One case/shelf to represent. The product sells regional. Pretty much everything sells before the next item. Here there is a 3 week gap between sales. it's all timing.
no pity for fools

Littleton, CO

#3197 Mar 19, 2013
Bill wrote:
No pity, you said you only push product into stores that you want. So I assume you are happy with all the direct shipped product, too?
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Sorry, I did not answer your question. NO, I do not like direct deliveries. But I looked over my contract and it clearly states S-L are allowed to do that. It does not say if we are to be compensated either. They do that because they NEED us to service the pallet. So, in their eyes paying us 12% is fair. I don't think it's fair for all the aggravation we put up with but it is what it is. The day they don't pay us for the DD the day the pallet will rot on the floor. And trust me, I do not put that much effort servicing the frigging DD's.
cookieman

Eagle, CO

#3198 Mar 19, 2013
I agree with no pity. It is was it is. Find a comfortable weekly volume to make a acceptable living,sell what sells in your market, display what works for your market, order what you can afford to carry. It is a one sided contract which as a IBO completely disassociates myself from SL. It cant be more clear to me that I am completely remove from any association with SL. I am an indenpendent business owner. That's my understanding.
Bent over Billy

Frederick, MD

#3199 Mar 19, 2013
no pity for fools wrote:
<quoted text>
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Sorry, I did not answer your question. NO, I do not like direct deliveries. But I looked over my contract and it clearly states S-L are allowed to do that. It does not say if we are to be compensated either. They do that because they NEED us to service the pallet. So, in their eyes paying us 12% is fair. I don't think it's fair for all the aggravation we put up with but it is what it is. The day they don't pay us for the DD the day the pallet will rot on the floor. And trust me, I do not put that much effort servicing the frigging DD's.
good point
Not yo cheese

United States

#3201 Mar 19, 2013
Have any of you so called business owners that can barely keep gas in your trucks, thought about how you're going to pay the tax bill you're about to get?

Since: Mar 13

Pinckney, MI

#3202 Mar 19, 2013
Hello all...I've just retired from a company owned bread route that I ran for 20 yrs. I'm bored at home and have been offered a S-L route by a dm I know from the bread days. He says the weekly rte average is $5600 and is weekends off. How much do you think net take home would be? What do you guys pay for business insurance and truck insurance. Thanks for the help!
Truth

United States

#3203 Mar 19, 2013
Maybe A New Guy wrote:
Hello all...I've just retired from a company owned bread route that I ran for 20 yrs. I'm bored at home and have been offered a S-L route by a dm I know from the bread days. He says the weekly rte average is $5600 and is weekends off. How much do you think net take home would be? What do you guys pay for business insurance and truck insurance. Thanks for the help!
@ 17 percent 5600 week route would be hard to survive .. thats 900 before allowances , gas , if any route note etc

Since: Feb 13

Rochester, NY

#3204 Mar 19, 2013
cookieman wrote:
I agree with no pity. It is was it is. Find a comfortable weekly volume to make a acceptable living,sell what sells in your market, display what works for your market, order what you can afford to carry. It is a one sided contract which as a IBO completely disassociates myself from SL. It cant be more clear to me that I am completely remove from any association with SL. I am an indenpendent business owner. That's my understanding.
Well said..as crazy as it sounds .it does behoove the IO to keep inventory low and sell less

Since: Feb 13

Rochester, NY

#3205 Mar 19, 2013
Maybe A New Guy wrote:
Hello all...I've just retired from a company owned bread route that I ran for 20 yrs. I'm bored at home and have been offered a S-L route by a dm I know from the bread days. He says the weekly rte average is $5600 and is weekends off. How much do you think net take home would be? What do you guys pay for business insurance and truck insurance. Thanks for the help!
You will be lucky to gross 900.00 a week.And that is if you keep your end of week inventory under 50.00
cookieman

Eagle, CO

#3206 Mar 19, 2013
Its not a sales driven model.

Since: Feb 13

Rochester, NY

#3207 Mar 19, 2013
cookieman wrote:
<quoted text> good read
VERY interesting

Since: Feb 13

Rochester, NY

#3208 Mar 20, 2013
cookieman wrote:
Its not a sales driven model.
It is not a sales driven model. It could be if they held inventory and gave us back ALL PA's. Until that is done the IO's will continue to tread water
no pity for fools

Littleton, CO

#3209 Mar 20, 2013
Maybe A New Guy wrote:
Hello all...I've just retired from a company owned bread route that I ran for 20 yrs. I'm bored at home and have been offered a S-L route by a dm I know from the bread days. He says the weekly rte average is $5600 and is weekends off. How much do you think net take home would be? What do you guys pay for business insurance and truck insurance. Thanks for the help!
__________
I would not trust the Dm friend at S-L. He's trying to fill a spot. Here's what I would suggest. If there is an open spot ask to WORK for the company. This way you will be able to see first and foremost how the opertaion goes. You will talk to the IBO's and actually work the territory and make money. See how much you'll be taking in and what your expenses would be. And if you decide to purchase the route then so be it.

The mistake newbies make are listening to the DM's and others without knowing the facts. It's a shady business S-L has. That average is WAY to low to make a living on. pwoplw in this area are averaging 10,000+ and they're just getting by. And they're single!!
cookieman

Eagle, CO

#3211 Mar 20, 2013
Not yo cheese wrote:
Have any of you so called business owners that can barely keep gas in your trucks, thought about how you're going to pay the tax bill you're about to get?
I pay quarterly online it is very convenient.
.
ibo sucker

United States

#3212 Mar 20, 2013
You are right.. not a sales driven model... the more money i make is when i dont order much product... that is just insane to me.... i did just read that sl sales were down 1 % from last year.. im willing to bet that it will be following that same trend this year... maybe they will eventually catch on... we are their backbone..

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