Snyder's of Hanover
getting screwed

Darby, PA

#3088 Mar 7, 2013
Any ios out their been compensated for any items lost to other distributers.contract says we r to be paud on any item lost on a 52 wk average of the sale of the item
Old School Lance Man

Holly Springs, NC

#3089 Mar 7, 2013
Long Time Lance Man wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with you. Lance was a good company to work for before Snyder's destroyed it. I had 24 years with them. they let me go. I am now with Mission. I am glad they let me go. I am in a far better place working for mission than working for Snyder's. They can't even keep inventory in stock for people. Lance was always very good about sending my entire orders.
I had 22 1/2 years and they did'nt offer me a route.......the reason.......They said since I had less than 6 months before I turned 62 they figured I would retire.......
Not ok

Beaumont, TX

#3090 Mar 7, 2013
getting screwed wrote:
Any ios out their been compensated for any items lost to other distributers.contract says we r to be paud on any item lost on a 52 wk average of the sale of the item
Yes I have tried to get compensated and was told to go screw myself. Good luck and let us know how it went.
lance

Los Angeles, CA

#3091 Mar 7, 2013
I concur lance was a great company. Cheap insurance, 401k, profit sharing, good pay..... oh those were the days....
BURT

Bolingbrook, IL

#3092 Mar 7, 2013
Old school Lance dude, you could of had a route if you had sex with a DM.
nfw

Virginia Beach, VA

#3093 Mar 7, 2013
Long Time Lance Man wrote:
<quoted text> I agree with you. Lance was a good company to work for before Snyder's destroyed it. I had 24 years with them. they let me go. I am now with Mission. I am glad they let me go. I am in a far better place working for mission than working for Snyder's. They can't even keep inventory in stock for people. Lance was always very good about sending my entire orders.
snyders was a very good company to own a route with. we all made a lot of money,got paid every week and never had any turn over. we kept the same group of io's for 7 or 8 years. then came the merger and lance tried to make things go their way and it has been down hill ever since. we have 2 or 3 guys quitting every week, just walking away from the route. so obviosly something is wrong
BURT

Bolingbrook, IL

#3094 Mar 7, 2013
Snyders is a great company and anyone who says othertwise is a Frito Lay troll
Ernie

United States

#3095 Mar 7, 2013
BURT wrote:
Snyders is a great company and anyone who says othertwise is a Frito Lay troll
aint it Time to film broke back mountain part 2 henry ?? Get outta here !
Bordeaux11611

York, PA

#3096 Mar 8, 2013
Rob MacArthur wrote:
My company is called Alternative Research Services, Inc.
Is the SEC FINALLY investigating? And I haven't even told about the disability fraud that has been going on for many, many years, and that I have documented! Patricia Warehime is on the board of directors for Snyder's-Lance, and ALSO on the board of directors for Capital Blue Cross Insurance Company. Before that she was an occupational therapist for Lincoln Intermediate Unit Preschool Program in New Oxford, Pennsylvania, right around the corner from Snyder's of Hanover. One of the jobs that an occupational therapist does is help clients with billing and insurance forms, good practice for fraud.
123abc

Hanover, PA

#3097 Mar 10, 2013
Someone mentioned in an earlier post reduced commish at wal mart. Ive read the contract and can not find anything mentioning direct ships to any store and being paid a reduced commish. Losing products to a different distibutor yes and being compensated for that but not by snyders-lance direct shipping ie..crossdocks. Hmmmm...dont I own the EXCLUSIVE rights to the stores that are in my route per my contract? Not only is this reduced commish reducing my percentage on the product it is not being accounted for towards my equity or any other ibo's? Im here to make money for myself and also snyders/lance...as we are "partners" and are to help each other. I'm hoping someone with a little "pull" will read this..consider this and address the situation. Im all for direct ships because they "usually" are put directly onto the salesfloor. I would even be willing to work the product to my shelves when requested by the store which always happens!! I just want to be fully compensated for the "crossdock product and the sales of this product be added as sales towards my route equity. Just think how successful snyders-lance could be if only they would take care of their "business partner" in a manner that would make all of us many $$$$!!!
Who Me

United States

#3098 Mar 10, 2013
I also hope someone is reading this with some pull. Why are we being charged promo fees on partner brands when SL is getting 100% credit from the brands? Why are we paying these fees when SL isn't? This is one of the many unfair practices SL screws us over on.
Barry The Bert

Chisinau, Moldova

#3099 Mar 10, 2013
Sales are ugly out there. Not only is Snyders Lance ripping us off with crossdocks etc. they will not compete with Frito at Supervalu stores. Big Jays have been onsale for like only 2 weeks so far in 2013. We never have hot prices on holidays anymore. Why bother? Snyders would rather sells 2 bags of chips at full price than 20 bags at a discounted price. So, nothing moves at these stores anymore! We are screwed!
snackman

Gettysburg, PA

#3100 Mar 10, 2013
123abc wrote:
Someone mentioned in an earlier post reduced commish at wal mart. Ive read the contract and can not find anything mentioning direct ships to any store and being paid a reduced commish. Losing products to a different distibutor yes and being compensated for that but not by snyders-lance direct shipping ie..crossdocks. Hmmmm...dont I own the EXCLUSIVE rights to the stores that are in my route per my contract? Not only is this reduced commish reducing my percentage on the product it is not being accounted for towards my equity or any other ibo's? Im here to make money for myself and also snyders/lance...as we are "partners" and are to help each other. I'm hoping someone with a little "pull" will read this..consider this and address the situation. Im all for direct ships because they "usually" are put directly onto the salesfloor. I would even be willing to work the product to my shelves when requested by the store which always happens!! I just want to be fully compensated for the "crossdock product and the sales of this product be added as sales towards my route equity. Just think how successful snyders-lance could be if only they would take care of their "business partner" in a manner that would make all of us many $$$$!!!
Well said I agree 100% with everything you said I he someone wakes up at Snyders-lance before there are no ibo's left, they aredropping like flies
Barry The Bert

Chisinau, Moldova

#3101 Mar 10, 2013
Guys, I talked to my DM and he said in the contract it states that all product sent directly to the stores from the warehouse is 12 percent commish.
Barry The Bert

Chisinau, Moldova

#3102 Mar 10, 2013
Snyders Lance has us by the balls. They can send product directly to Walmart whenever they want. Watch them start doing it more and more often. It's all about the stock price now, folks.
Frank

Ellenton, FL

#3103 Mar 10, 2013
How about a route that the company got back and have a DM running it selling for eleven to one.
Does $8500 a week, if anyone wants to buy it does the DM supply potential buyers with 52 weeks of settlements, to see what the route ran over the year and commission paid on a weekly bases.
Rob MacArthur

Ridgefield, CT

#3104 Mar 11, 2013
Bordeaux11611 wrote:
<quoted text>
Is the SEC FINALLY investigating? And I haven't even told about the disability fraud that has been going on for many, many years, and that I have documented! Patricia Warehime is on the board of directors for Snyder's-Lance, and ALSO on the board of directors for Capital Blue Cross Insurance Company. Before that she was an occupational therapist for Lincoln Intermediate Unit Preschool Program in New Oxford, Pennsylvania, right around the corner from Snyder's of Hanover. One of the jobs that an occupational therapist does is help clients with billing and insurance forms, good practice for fraud.
Disability fraud? I don't understand what you are decribing. I don't know if the SEC is investigating. Why would they? I am a little curious about the relationship between the chairman's outside companies and S-L although the relationships are disclosed in their SEC filings. With nearly 3000 complaints here, I am curious to know how much churn or turnover there is of disgruntled IBOs. At what point do people throw in the towel after feeling like their 17-20% is more like 10-12%, not including the Walmart in the mix?

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#3105 Mar 11, 2013
I have owned three different routes over the years two bread and one cookie route.
So I know how DM's can be and how truthful they can be so I hear of a route for sale in New Port Richy FL.(company took it back DM running it) so I get a hold of the DM after a couple texts and talk to him about the route and he says someone with route experience will go to the top over others looking at it, and its almost like he wants me to say I will take it right over the phone but I tell him I need to see the numbers yearly and need to see back 6 months weekly settlements, he acts like no one ever have questioned the numbers or him. So this is Friday he says he wants to meet me right away and says how about 5am Monday at his first stop I say sure no problem.
So this weekend I am thinking why did this guy seem shocked with me asking the numbers oh well we will find out.
So i get up early this am and head down about 4am so I can get there by 5am I am waiting behind the store (talking to other vendors since I know all of them)he pulls up I introduce myself and he says I tried calling you this weekend I say no you did not, then he says oh wait I lost your number I say not a chance since you text me 2 days ago, then he goes on and tells me someone else stepped up after I talked to him on Friday and bought it.

So I think this is cool because I would not get a long with a DM that will lie right to your face knowing he knows you know he is lying.
So ether he really did sell the route or he is looking for someone that will take his word for the numbers.
Like I said it worked out the best I have been doing route relief since I sold my last route I get to work when I want and turn down more work then I need.
Fishin Buddy

Saint Petersburg, FL

#3106 Mar 11, 2013
Frank wrote:
How about a route that the company got back and have a DM running it selling for eleven to one.
Does $8500 a week, if anyone wants to buy it does the DM supply potential buyers with 52 weeks of settlements, to see what the route ran over the year and commission paid on a weekly bases.
If it's the route I'm thinking of, no way it does $8500 unless you're piling backstock everywhere, every week. But wait, Publix won't let you and SBay and WD are no places you want to. Without any major sales I'd say it's more like $6000.

BTW it has at least 1 Sbay that just closed.

Run away from this route.
whadda joke

Carlisle, PA

#3107 Mar 11, 2013
The way they are doing things you would be smart to keep your route at a manageable level and work the fewest hours you can so in your mind (and in your wife's mind, if applicable) it seems worth it. It's not worth the effort to grow the business anymore because we are not beng supported by the company - when we are the only ones not serving club stores and also having product direct shipped then the writing is on the wall. I hope you sleep good at night Mike Warehime, Ed Good and all the others that turned a once proud company into the laughingstock they are on the street. I just wonder if any major accounts read our forum??

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