Snyder's of Hanover
Clocker

United States

#2822 Dec 23, 2012
"I am a LLC, not incorporated. Either way, ur right guys r right by saying I need a lawyer."

BJ, LLC means Limited Liability Corporation. You are incorporated, just a different type than the common S corp. I hope you have an accountant. If not you're missing out on tons of write offs that will save you big money at tax time. Please get an accountant too if you don't have one. The $ you'll save with the accountant will pay for the lawyer.
Bjlo4life

New Brighton, PA

#2823 Dec 23, 2012
Buckeye for life wrote:
<quoted text>
I have a Snyders Lance route and a Mission route. By FAR.....Snyders Lance is better than Mission! I can't believe I'm saying this.....but, it's true! I've been doin Mission for 7 weeks....I've averaged $3500. in sales each week....and haven't gotten a check yet!! In 7 weeks, no check! no cash either! My first 5 weeks, in 1 WalMart alone....I've staled out almost 4 skids of cross dock chips that did there time in WalMarts steel in the backroom!
Just wanted to add a buyer beware about Mission too!
Mission was always sold and distributed by another vendor here in SW Pa. Snyders of Berlin actually had these on their truck. But like you,they're we're a ton of stales. Not a hot product. Now I believe they actually have a mission sales/mech rep and route all by itself.
AMBMAK

Black Mountain, NC

#2824 Dec 23, 2012
boxhard wrote:
you aint makin a full 17 % thats why i question your math. you say you be puttin 1700/wk in the bank after route payments and i highly doubt it, even if you are runnin 10g a week. it dont take an einstein to figure shared promos drive that margin to 14.5% and a c store line is not gonna fill the gap. if your happy and LOVE your route, great.
i dont need need a lecture about hard work from you nor about snyders being a fantasy land. i would run circles around you and your wife. not all distributors have the extra help and can run in teams. this outfit will screw you at every turn.
i have been asked repeatedly to come back or if i cold handle my mission route along with s-l. after the hard pretzel snyders gave me it would be a cold day in hell b4 i took 17% from these shady a holes. nothins changed around here except people are makin less, workin harder and goin bankrupt. i see new faces every 3 months and its not for the reasons you say. sure some are not cut out for this work but the majority have been lied to and scammed about the weekly sales and money to be made.enjoy those sunday pullups.
yeah i thought out of the box and left. much better off today and will be much better when i sell off part of my new route.
<quoted text>
OK HERE WE GO, WE DID $10,678.00 IN TOTAL SALES LAST WEEK THAT INCLUDES $1994.00 IN CASH. MY PROMO ALLOWANCE WAS $1798.00 , THATS $12,476.00. THATS ABOUT MY AVERAGE MAYBE SLIGHTLY HIGHER BUT NOT MUCH TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I OWED SNYDERS $103.00, THATS $1891.00 I MADE LAST WEEK AFTER MY RTE PAYMENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.... THIS IS LANCE COUNTRY DOWN HERE !!! LANCE IS BASED IN CHARLOTTE WHICH IS LESS THAN AN HOUR AWAY. WE JUST PACKED OUT OUR 4X4'S AT BOTH WALMARTS TODAY (SUNDAY), AND BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM PUT UP 39 CASES OF CRACKERS !!! THERE MAYBE 5 OR 6 LEFT IN BACK STOCK OF EACH STORE, THATS NOT INCLUDING SNYDERS AND WISE. I DONT KNOW WHAT THE LANCE VOLUME IS UP THERE BUT ITS INSANE DOWN HERE BELIEVE ME. NOT HERE TO LECTURE ANYONE AT ALL BUT I KNOW WHAT I MAKE AND WHAT WE DO MAKE IS GOOD MONEY EVEN IF WE STILL LIVED IN N.J. AS FOR YOU RUNNING CIRCLES AROUND US, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE YOU PROBABLY COULD, WE'RE BOTH IN OUR 50'S NOW AND WE'RE ALMOST DOUBLE THE AGE OF SOME OF THE IO'S. IN FACT WE'RE SERIOUSLY THINKING OF SELLING OFF A SECTION OF C-STORES WE HAVE THAT ARE KIND OF OUT OF THE WAY AND VERY TIME CONSUMING. WE COULD THEN CONCENTRATE MORE ON OUR 2 WALMARTS AND TARGETS. HOPE YOU DO WELL WITH MISSION.
time will tell

Atlanta, GA

#2825 Dec 23, 2012
AMBMAK wrote:
<quoted text> OK HERE WE GO, WE DID $10,678.00 IN TOTAL SALES LAST WEEK THAT INCLUDES $1994.00 IN CASH. MY PROMO ALLOWANCE WAS $1798.00 , THATS $12,476.00. THATS ABOUT MY AVERAGE MAYBE SLIGHTLY HIGHER BUT NOT MUCH TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. I OWED SNYDERS $103.00, THATS $1891.00 I MADE LAST WEEK AFTER MY RTE PAYMENT PLAIN AND SIMPLE.... THIS IS LANCE COUNTRY DOWN HERE !!! LANCE IS BASED IN CHARLOTTE WHICH IS LESS THAN AN HOUR AWAY. WE JUST PACKED OUT OUR 4X4'S AT BOTH WALMARTS TODAY (SUNDAY), AND BETWEEN BOTH OF THEM PUT UP 39 CASES OF CRACKERS !!! THERE MAYBE 5 OR 6 LEFT IN BACK STOCK OF EACH STORE, THATS NOT INCLUDING SNYDERS AND WISE. I DONT KNOW WHAT THE LANCE VOLUME IS UP THERE BUT ITS INSANE DOWN HERE BELIEVE ME. NOT HERE TO LECTURE ANYONE AT ALL BUT I KNOW WHAT I MAKE AND WHAT WE DO MAKE IS GOOD MONEY EVEN IF WE STILL LIVED IN N.J. AS FOR YOU RUNNING CIRCLES AROUND US, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE YOU PROBABLY COULD, WE'RE BOTH IN OUR 50'S NOW AND WE'RE ALMOST DOUBLE THE AGE OF SOME OF THE IO'S. IN FACT WE'RE SERIOUSLY THINKING OF SELLING OFF A SECTION OF C-STORES WE HAVE THAT ARE KIND OF OUT OF THE WAY AND VERY TIME CONSUMING. WE COULD THEN CONCENTRATE MORE ON OUR 2 WALMARTS AND TARGETS. HOPE YOU DO WELL WITH MISSION.
BS....12476 is 2120 at 17%. 1798 in promo fees is over 300. Your route note is over 250. Just those two numbers blow your 1800 check out of the water. What you did was over sell product you won't be charged for until next week thus over paying yourself by 500. You keep that up and you will end up owning SL thousands. BTW, you sell any part of your route in the first three years and BoA will charge u 3%. Then SL will charge you another 5%. There goes your equity because you haven't been on the route long enough. Your screwed just like the rest of us and too ignorant to realize it.
AMBMAK

Black Mountain, NC

#2827 Dec 23, 2012
time will tell wrote:
<quoted text>BS....12476 is 2120 at 17%. 1798 in promo fees is over 300. Your route note is over 250. Just those two numbers blow your 1800 check out of the water. What you did was over sell product you won't be charged for until next week thus over paying yourself by 500. You keep that up and you will end up owning SL thousands. BTW, you sell any part of your route in the first three years and BoA will charge u 3%. Then SL will charge you another 5%. There goes your equity because you haven't been on the route long enough. Your screwed just like the rest of us and too ignorant to realize it.
ALSO DONT FORGET, YOUR PROMOTIONS ARE JUST A CREDIT ON YOUR INVOICE.
whadda joke

Shippensburg, PA

#2828 Dec 25, 2012
Agree with "time will tell". AMBMAK - you don't know your math - sorry. And if your doing Sunday pullups then you are just working way more than I want to. But one thing I do know - Snyders _ Lance loves people like you. Ones willing to give up their life completely for them. Sorry but people like you are far and few between. My family comes first, not WalMart.
AMBMAK

Black Mountain, NC

#2829 Dec 25, 2012
whadda joke wrote:
Agree with "time will tell". AMBMAK - you don't know your math - sorry. And if your doing Sunday pullups then you are just working way more than I want to. But one thing I do know - Snyders _ Lance loves people like you. Ones willing to give up their life completely for them. Sorry but people like you are far and few between. My family comes first, not WalMart.
COULD NOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE, MY FAMILY COMES FIRST ALSO BUT, SINCE OUR KIDS ARE GROWN AND WE NOW HAVE GRAND KIDS I'D RATHER TAKE A LITTLE TIME OUT ON SUNDAY WHILE WE'RE SITTING AROUND NOT DOING A THING AND PACK OUT MY STORES. IT HAS NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH WALMART BUT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH "US" BECAUSE IT MAKES OUR MONDAYS THAT MUCH EASIER. I KNOW ALOT OF VENDORS FROWN UPON IT BUT ITS THE WAY WE DO IT.I ALSO KNOW ALOT OF VENDORS WHO DO THE SAME AS US AND PACK OUT ON SUNDAY. IN FACT, SOMETIMES I MIGHT EVEN PULL AN ORDER IN MY TRUCK, SEPERATE IT IN THE BACK, THEN WHEN WE GET THERE FIRST THING AT 5AM WE JUST WALK RIGHT IN WITH OUR ORDER, CHECK IN, PUT UP, AND LEAVE. IT MAKES OUR MONDAYS THAT MUCH EASIER AND YES, WALMART LIKES IT ALSO. IF THEY SEE OUR 4X4 OF CRACKERS OR OUR SNYDERS AND WISE SHELVES BLOWN OUT THEY COULD VERY EASILY YANK OUR 4X4S OFF THE FLOOR AND THERE GOES A TON OF SALES, SO YES WALMART DOES LIKE IT AND THATS FINE WITH ME. THIS IS YOUR BUISINESS, ITS NOT PUNCH IN AT 8 AND LEAVE AT 4 GET AN HOUR LUNCH AND 12 PAID HOLLIDAYS. TALK TO SOMEONE WHO OWNS A DELI OR DINNER, OR A BAR... THIS BUISINESS IS A WALK IN THE PARK COMPARED TO THIERS. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ALOT OF HOURS AND THE INVESTMENT IS CRAZY WITH THOSE BUISINESES. THERE ARE PLENTY OF WORSE THINGS WE COULD BE DOING FOR LESS MONEY, A TON OF LESS MONEY !! AS FAR AS SNYDERS LOVING PEOPLE LIKE US , FANTASTIC !!! THEY SHOULD, WE WORK HARD, IM SURE YOU DO TO.
whadda joke

Shippensburg, PA

#2830 Dec 26, 2012
I do work hard but I realized a long time ago that my family always comes first and that means Sunday is for them. It is a day of rest at my house. I'm not knocking they way you do it but I am not a deli or restaurant.
AMBMAK

Black Mountain, NC

#2831 Dec 26, 2012
whadda joke wrote:
I do work hard but I realized a long time ago that my family always comes first and that means Sunday is for them. It is a day of rest at my house. I'm not knocking they way you do it but I am not a deli or restaurant.
BY THE WAY, WE LOVE YOUR TOWN.. WE CUT THROUGH IT ON THE WAY UP TO NJ AND ON THE WAY HOME TO NC VIA THE PA TURNPIKE. REMINDS ME OF MAYBERRY, VERY QUAINT.
chip man

Marietta, GA

#2833 Dec 28, 2012
anyone else get lied to about snyders lance buying back archway holiday cookies after christmas. now they have decided not to? so we are stuck with them.
why

Virginia Beach, VA

#2834 Dec 28, 2012
chip man wrote:
anyone else get lied to about snyders lance buying back archway holiday cookies after christmas. now they have decided not to? so we are stuck with them.
same thing happened to us last year, so this year did not sell any
Gotafatlanceinmy jeans

United States

#2835 Dec 28, 2012
chip man wrote:
anyone else get lied to about snyders lance buying back archway holiday cookies after christmas. now they have decided not to? so we are stuck with them.
With only making 17 percent really ain't worth fooling with the x mas cookies and having to eat any left over ...
whadda joke

Scotland, PA

#2836 Dec 28, 2012
we were told they were a guaranteed sale.
CapeCodChipMan

Gainesville, FL

#2837 Dec 30, 2012
We were told back in May when we had to blindly pre-order them that there was no buy back this year on these or the SOH Chocolates.

I ordered 1 case for each store and called it done. Then had the order cut due to "production" issues.
chip man wrote:
anyone else get lied to about snyders lance buying back archway holiday cookies after christmas. now they have decided not to? so we are stuck with them.
abc123

Hanover, PA

#2838 Dec 30, 2012
Soon tax time...want to be sure I claim all deductions im allowed...was told I can claim...
my share of promo dollars..all truck expenses..interest on route loan..stale..35.00 a week charge by snyders...tax preparer's fee..home office expense..milage for my car for pullups..meetings, etc...truck depreciation. Question Im still unsure about...can i deduct all of truck payment or just interest and can I depreciate the route? If anyone knows of any other deductions please let me know..Thanks! Just thought of health care costs too??
getataxmangoober

Allentown, PA

#2839 Dec 31, 2012
nuffsaid
The Franchise

Waxhaw, NC

#2840 Jan 1, 2013
abc123 wrote:
Soon tax time...want to be sure I claim all deductions im allowed...was told I can claim...
my share of promo dollars..all truck expenses..interest on route loan..stale..35.00 a week charge by snyders...tax preparer's fee..home office expense..milage for my car for pullups..meetings, etc...truck depreciation. Question Im still unsure about...can i deduct all of truck payment or just interest and can I depreciate the route? If anyone knows of any other deductions please let me know..Thanks! Just thought of health care costs too??
First, let me say before I answer your questions that everyones tax situation is different so get a good accountant. You can depreciate the route over 15 years IF you choose to. You have to recapture the depreciation when you sell your route. Basically, you have to add the amount you depreciate back to the original cost basis. If you bought your route for $50,000, depreciated $20,000 and sold it for $100,000, you would pay taxes on $70,000, not $50,000. You can depreciate your truck over 5 years or do a 179 deduction if you qualify. Your accountant can help you depending on what type of truck you have. Your healthcare costs are deductible but it may not help you as much as you think depending on your tax sitauation. I hope this helps somewhat. Please get a good accountant. He/she is well worth the money.
Promos

Tucker, GA

#2841 Jan 1, 2013
Use to own another route and they sent u a total amount bought from them @ the end of the year and they rowed the inventory every week and you could take promos off that amount but the way snyders does the pay system don't know that you can because they pay u after allowances ?
x - pepperidge farm dist

Spring Grove, IL

#2842 Jan 1, 2013
Store audit threats by D.S.M. very low stale relief, depot pick up times, retail store stocking demands, geografical teritory , Stale charge back amounts,Mandated display even when product doesnt sell, Constant Harassment by management, Frequency of delivery service requirements by Pepperidge Farm. Your really are treated like a stutory emoloyee with out the benifits better think twice before investing thousands for a job working weekends holidays etc, for low commissions and little secruity that they may take it away from you without cause.
Lawyer Time

Ruston, LA

#2843 Jan 1, 2013
This I/O just found out that S/L has not been crediting us for shortages/OOD from the warehouse through the HH . In this area, we still receive our loads from a warehouse shippped by transport to a bin. Therefore if you are getting product shipped to a bin, you have to call the warehouse it's shipped from to recieve credit if you are short or have product delievered that is already OOD or short dated. S/L convienently never told any of the bin routes of the protocal for being credited for shortages. By the way, the other I/O's in my area thought they were getting credit also. The management I have talked to about this is rather flippant about this. However, this was no mere oversight or mistake.It is fraud and stealing and something needs to be done.

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