Snyder's of Hanover
Georgia Pounder

United States

#2488 Jul 12, 2012
Maybe Buying wrote:
I made a offer on route in the Mid-Atlantic area yesterday, waiting to hear there response. Twelve times actual sales of SL products only no partner brands, contract must state that DM can not order product for me, must state that SL will not make any agreements with stores to be serviced more than five times a week, SL can not lower commisions for the length of contract.
After riding the route for two weeks and speaking to the store managers I can't see any less than a 50% increase in sales over the next year. Should be able to sell it or split it into two routes within three years.
I know most of you guys don't have anything good to say about SL but do you talk to other IO's out there, nobody is happy with there company.
GOOD LUCK!
Bordeaux11611

Dover, PA

#2489 Jul 12, 2012
Georgia Pounder wrote:
<quoted text>GOOD LUCK!
And the Pretenders keep pretending! Please buy a route so we can make lots of money off of you and call you stupid! We've been crooks since the early 1900's and have our con games down to a science! Please believe our wealthy plants who will help us to dupe you and lull you into drinking some nice kool aid. They usually try to misspell a lot of words and act like they can't form complete sentences because they think that you are stupid like that and they are trying to copy you so you will believe them better! Come on! Help us out!
Georgia Pounder

United States

#2490 Jul 12, 2012
DON'T DO IT!
Maybe Buying wrote:
I made a offer on route in the Mid-Atlantic area yesterday, waiting to hear there response. Twelve times actual sales of SL products only no partner brands, contract must state that DM can not order product for me, must state that SL will not make any agreements with stores to be serviced more than five times a week, SL can not lower commisions for the length of contract.
After riding the route for two weeks and speaking to the store managers I can't see any less than a 50% increase in sales over the next year. Should be able to sell it or split it into two routes within three years.
I know most of you guys don't have anything good to say about SL but do you talk to other IO's out there, nobody is happy with there company.
Snyders upper management

Bolingbrook, IL

#2491 Jul 13, 2012
Ignore all the doom and gloomers here. They are just mad because they quit Snyders and now work at Taco Bell for 7.25 an hour.
Georgia Pounder

United States

#2492 Jul 13, 2012
Snyders upper management wrote:
Ignore all the doom and gloomers here. They are just mad because they quit Snyders and now work at Taco Bell for 7.25 an hour.
Thats right I make more money , work less hours and I eat for free!
Gotafatlanceinmy jeans

United States

#2493 Jul 13, 2012
Snyders upper management wrote:
Ignore all the doom and gloomers here. They are just mad because they quit Snyders and now work at Taco Bell for 7.25 an hour.
listen uppermangememt I told u last don't get off ur knees until u finish tickling my balls Biotch ......
North-La-Rep

Bossier City, LA

#2494 Jul 13, 2012
gft wrote:
<quoted text> i don't think they are wondering why people are leaving left and right, I don't think they care. they think they can find new people that will do things the way they want them to. that way they can tell them what to put in stores and how to do everything the way they want us to do.
gtf.... I agree with you. They think they can replace you(I'm gone). But they must have quality trainers to train new IO's and there is not enough to go around. That means poor service, sorry merchendising, lost accounts and "yes"...... LOST REVENUE. Not to mention a horrible reputation. That will be their undoing, unless someone wakes up and realizes that the IO is their front line. What a shame!!
North-La-Rep

Bossier City, LA

#2495 Jul 13, 2012
Georgia Pounder wrote:
I should have taken the money and ran!
Did that.... FEELS GREAT.
North-La-Rep

Bossier City, LA

#2496 Jul 13, 2012
Maybe Buying wrote:
I made a offer on route in the Mid-Atlantic area yesterday, waiting to hear there response. Twelve times actual sales of SL products only no partner brands, contract must state that DM can not order product for me, must state that SL will not make any agreements with stores to be serviced more than five times a week, SL can not lower commisions for the length of contract.
After riding the route for two weeks and speaking to the store managers I can't see any less than a 50% increase in sales over the next year. Should be able to sell it or split it into two routes within three years.
I know most of you guys don't have anything good to say about SL but do you talk to other IO's out there, nobody is happy with there company.
You bought into their line of BS. Unwise, but..... your choice.
snackman

Shippensburg, PA

#2497 Jul 13, 2012
They will never change anything. Had 3 meetings with management, was told take it or leave it this is how we are doing things. 15.5% on gross sales what a joke. This company will fail unless it wakes up an realizes that we are the ones that make this co. roll. Not the suits in the office . they wouldn't last 1 week doing what we do. And thats the cold hard facts
R u kidding

Hanover, PA

#2498 Jul 14, 2012
Carl Lee, Ed Good, and Dave Singer should be ashamed of themselves. They took a company that was headed in the right direction and just stuck it to the very people responsible for growing this company. I will do enough to make it - will I go above and beyond?? Not!! Would they go above and beyond for me?? Not!! We are supposed to be partners - what a shame. In a year or two I am hoping the stockholders see through this sham and can these guys - just hoping I'm there to witness it. They didn't have a problem canning me.
Snyders upper management

Bolingbrook, IL

#2499 Jul 15, 2012
Dave Singer is one of the greatest Americans who's lived!
Georgia Pounder

United States

#2500 Jul 16, 2012
Wow there's a lot of routes for sale online after owning it for one year! I need to find a broker and sell mine!
big baller

Spring, TX

#2501 Jul 16, 2012
Snyders upper management wrote:
Dave Singer is one of the greatest Americans who's lived!
Get that dick out of your mouth
Gotafatlanceinmy jeans

United States

#2502 Jul 17, 2012
Snyders lance hires all new dm's from a agency called douche bag temps .... 98 percent can't change a lightbulb
Helpful

Cedar Park, TX

#2503 Jul 18, 2012
Snack Pack wrote:
What happens with the loan if you walk with cause? Does anybody know anyone who has went through this?
They will file for "route abandonment", sell your route for you and sue you for the difference in LOST value.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#2504 Jul 18, 2012
pat wrote:
I heard that snyder's was buying utz, anyone know anything about that?
They need to buy some kind of company. A IO from Dallas has been told snyders tried to buy utzs but it fell threw due to utzs not wanting to provide all the proper documents and sales numbers and all the other stuff that goes into a process of a buy out. Hopefully snyders will do something soon cause the Dallas IOs are hurting in sales, me being one of them

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#2505 Jul 18, 2012
Cincinnati Distributor wrote:
<quoted text>
Becomeing a independent op. isn't all that it's cracked up to be.
They want you to pay to do your job. They tell you this is a great opportunity for you. Snyder's is the only one that benifits from it. If you have a distributor aggreement, you need to get it to an attorney and have him break it down for you. I think you will be quite suprised. Snyder's is the only one making moneyon this deal. Based on the way the commission is figured out. Get back to me on when you break down the aggreement.
I agree. This coming from a Dallas independent op.

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#2506 Jul 18, 2012
snydersrep wrote:
The problem with snyder's is they pay us on what we load not what we sell. They fail to tell you that when you are buying the route. I do not know one rep that is happy about snyder's. Everyone I know is selling there route to get out while they can. So now the new group of io's will be even more pissed off because they overpaid for the routes and make no money!!!!!
I agree with this. That's why I sell everything I load and don't load extra if I know I'm not gonna sell it. Snyders will learn in the long run that this system sucks cause if it was based off what we sold then we would sale a lot more without the worry of what u load and u would get spur of the moment displays in more stores if We could carry extra product without the worry of being charged for it without selling it. This coming from a Dallas IO

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#2507 Jul 18, 2012
snyder ho wrote:
<quoted text>
Here in the midwest they use a 10 / 1 ratio to value the routes. For instance if the route does 5000.00 in sales a week avg. the route is then worth 50,000.00. Thats what you pay for it. If your sales rise to say 7000.00 per week avg.( when you sell ) then your route is then worth 70,000.00. A profit of 30,000.00.(this is the only way you can sell the route if you wanted to.(You cant really put your own price on it.)
Our pay fluctuates too. Many variables will affect this, especially if you carry iventory all the time. I dont, I pre write orders and then sell it all by weeks end. The way they charge you for each load is a little screwy because they dont charge you but every 3 days and you are actually owing them money all the time.
My big problem with the whole situation is that the way they value the route. They use partner brand sales figures in the VALUE of the route initially and when and if we actually lose a partner brand, that value is lost to the I.O. They should sell the routes based only on sales of Snyders brand only, or whatever brands they actually own and know they wont lose.
They are also planning to buy back routes here too...soon. We dont have a choice either, they want to add the Lance brands and charge us for them.
I agree with this 100% and have actually told a lawyer via phone call at Hanover that is one of there lawyers that we shouldn't have to buy a route based off partner brands sales considering those sales come and go to often to where the IO is at risk. In Dallas we have been on the IO buy route system for like a year or so now. They waiting to ,edge snyders and lance along with a small Dallas company snyders bought that I also worked for before I switched to snyders. This small company is where all the partner brands come from. We have lost 3-4 small partner brands within the last year and a half and every reset we have has consisted of loss. If there was a gain my stores didn't get any gain. All in all my route sales are suppose to average 6400 and I'm around 6000 and have to bust my ass to get it near 6400 which happens like once a month if that. Working on getting my sales numbers for the last year and figure out a plan on taking this issue to a legal matter cause like I tell all my bosses, " I'm tired of making pennies when I signed up to make dollars"

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