Hanover councilman holds community forum

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Hanover Borough Councilman Jerry Leppo stands in his neighborhood on Second Avenue recently. Full Story
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townson

Hanover, PA

#1 Sep 12, 2010
there are a lot of blue collar people living all throughout the borough. but for leppo to say his ward is the poorest is very inflammatory.
Leppo is

Hanover, PA

#2 Sep 12, 2010
Right....his area is one of the hot spots in town for trouble! Come on, everyone knows that. Good for Leppo and the group---I hope LOTS of people show up!
shim

Chambersburg, PA

#3 Sep 12, 2010
Not going to bash leppo. but I think that Whitson is a waste. He does not have time for it. what is he doing with his time catching bad guys? lolololol again I ask after telling hanover community that there is a drug problem in hanover how many arrest have been made. whitson is just another one of those cops as the previous chief that just turns his head the other way. i am glad he is not head of something inportant. WHITSON YOU TALK A GOOD GAME I BET YOU JUST WISH YOU COULD PLAY. i am not one of those trying to get back at whitson because he aressted me or something like that. i am just one who would like to see those that talk a good game play a good game. i just wish he was not so busy so he could read this. there are 2 problems in hanover. drugs and no police dept to try & stop them.
OBAMA

Hanover, PA

#4 Sep 12, 2010
Whitson is your typical area police chief. Work your way up through the ranks until one day you become chief. Sounds good, but the only problem is when they get to this point they don't want to be proactive anymore. Whitson doesn't want his troops to stir anything up, he simply wants to ride out his retirement. I believe there are some good cops in Hanover. They are only lacking a leader. This stands true for many departments.
Running for re-election

York Springs, PA

#5 Sep 12, 2010
It appears to me Leppo is running for re-election by doing a lot of talking. There is already a neighborhood watch program set up in Hanover. I wonder why he hasn't set one up in his neighborhood. Oh that's right, it wouldn't get him any publicity. That would actually be doing something constructive instead of just a lot of public relations talk. There are talkers and there are doers in this world. Which one do you think he is?
lol

Hanover, PA

#6 Sep 12, 2010
Whitson does a fine job with his police force. Not only is Hanover statistically lower than the national average on all serious felonies crime , per capita , but the Hanover Bourough area is only 5 sqaure miles.
Yep

Hanover, PA

#7 Sep 12, 2010
Perhaps he is too busy to waste his time with a newspaper like the Evening Sun. Ever think of that?
shim

Chambersburg, PA

#8 Sep 12, 2010
so u compare a 5 sq. mile area to the national avg. whitson explain that to you?
lol wrote:
Whitson does a fine job with his police force. Not only is Hanover statistically lower than the national average on all serious felonies crime , per capita , but the Hanover Bourough area is only 5 sqaure miles.
xrayex

Hanover, PA

#9 Sep 12, 2010
There ARE a lot of blue collar people living throughout the borough. BUT...if you have doubts about the economic condition of Ward 4, take a walk through here (especially the N. Franklin, Poplar, High St. area) for yourself. I don't think anyone one is trying to be insulting with that comment.
One look at the Police Log will tell you the area is a VERY hot spot.
The police are here and are doing a good job. They can't be everywhere at once. When a call comes in they respond quickly and from what I've observed, they deal with the problems efficiently.
Mostly, they ARE NOT (I believe, due to Chief Whitson's leadership) heavy-handed when dealing with the public. After seeing tactics employed in some other areas, I am grateful for this.
I have observed our officers acting professionally and with great restraint every time they are called (for example) to Wirt park...and over the summer they have been called often. I have seen officers "surrounded" by young people as they attempt to get to the bottom of whatever problem they are responding to.
I've heard that officers are "harassing" "kids" but I have SEEN "kids" disrespecting and sometime "challenging" officers that are trying to deal with emergency situations at the park.
I would wager that because of where I live, I have had a better chance to observe Hanover's police officers than most. And I am satisfied with what I've seen.
Chief Whitson HAS been here a long time. I'm not trying to "pick on" anyone and your opinion is your right but please allow me to call "time out" for a moment. The Sun Article said he "didn't have time to comment"...about an article...He's the chief of police, maybe he simply didn't have time to get his comments in before the press deadline because between work and civic commitments, he couldn't do it all. He is involved in many community projects and he spends a lot of his "off time" in these civic pursuits. Because...this is his community too.
He has, I'm sure, learned the value of taking a little extra care in how he deals with (or comments on) the citizens of this community.
It seems that swift and stern law enforcement is always good...unless it is applied to you.
Without the advantage of a certain perspective, it's easy to call fault. Much easier than to become involved. Once you are in the thick of things you figure out that the problem is not as easy to solve as it sounds. We've all become complacent because overall, Hanover has been a great place to live. The idea that we all bear a responsibility for the "tone" of our community has become foreign for many.
We complain that the borough isn't responsive to our needs but that's where it ends, we complain. When someone in the community/government (Jerry Leppo in this case...and he's NOT running for re-election) wants to make an effort to bring government closer to the people and attempts to include us directly, we belittle his efforts and take cheap potshots at him.
As borough council is a VOLUNTEER position, it makes me wonder why anyone would bother to take time away from their family, etc. to do this and catch so much grief...for what?
If the borough government is not what you wish it was, please get involved to change it. If you can do a better job, if you can make your town a better place to live, please run for office and prove it. This is a great time to start.
Here2

Hanover, PA

#10 Sep 12, 2010
"Hanover Police Chief Randy Whitson said this week his schedule was full and he didn't have time to discuss the issue."

This is so typical. Considering Mayor Adams is in-charge of the police you would think he would step in and do something with the Chief.
xrayex

Hanover, PA

#11 Sep 12, 2010
Running for re-election wrote:
It appears to me Leppo is running for re-election by doing a lot of talking. There is already a neighborhood watch program set up in Hanover. I wonder why he hasn't set one up in his neighborhood. Oh that's right, it wouldn't get him any publicity. That would actually be doing something constructive instead of just a lot of public relations talk. There are talkers and there are doers in this world. Which one do you think he is?
Appearances CAN be deceiving...
Councilman Leppo IS NOT up for re-election this year.
Now that that's out of the way...
The only neighborhood watch group is in the "Clearview" area, it's not for the whole of Hanover. Watches are done by...neighborhood. Jerry IS hoping to help citizens set up neighborhood watches for his neighborhood and others.
So, let's be clear...if he does nothing, he's a bad rep...if he does something, he's a bad rep. He's bad if he does something now because he didn't do it sooner.

You're right (sort of) about one thing. Jerry IS talking, a lot,(door to door lately) to people in the ward about what they need because they won't or don't come to him. He IS seeking publicity. Publicity for his meeting on September 16th at the YWCA in an effort to get people to take active part in their community if they are able. Because if he gets publicity, the public will know and hopefully come and get involved. He's not saying he has all the answers but he's willing to ask the public for their answers and their help so we can all be some part of a solution.
You make it sound like a Hanover Borough council seat is some big lucrative position with tons of perks and a fat salary. It's none of these things. Local government is not that kind of government.

From a safe distance, a council seat seems to be a huge investment of time and an opportunity to VOLUNTEER to have a target on your back so people can make uninformed assumptions about your motives and more easily take potshots and make personal attacks on you. But...in Jerry's case it's his way of trying to give something back to a town he's spent his whole life in and is very proud of. He's a pretty naive guy I guess. Imagine, a call to public service (not self service) for the sake of community...how foolish.
Other than the satisfaction of feeling that you've helped make things better for your town and neighbors, there's not too much compensation.
But obviously, it's never going to satisfy everyone.
All sarcasm aside...
If you can do a better job, if you can solve (or help solve) the problems that Hanover Borough faces, if you have the passion and know-how, we need you in local government...please, please run and do it.
It's a difficult job...especially at times like this.
Jerry Leppo would most likely help you get the signatures necessary to be put on the ballot, just ask him.
You're also right that "There are talkers and there are doers in this world."
Which one will you be?
Saya

Hanover, PA

#12 Sep 12, 2010
Xrayex says it loud and clear...if you don't like what's being done then run for a position on the council....

I've known Mr. Leppo for quite some time and he is genuine about wanting to improve the Hanover community. Fact remains though, he cannot do it alone therefore I challenge each of the naysayers on this board to step up and run for a council position. Hanover needs some new people on the council, some fresh ideas...some change in this area.

As for Chief Whitson....again, same philosophy as above...do something about it if you don't like the way the local government is run. The Chief only has so many resources at his disposal, but remember, if taxes are raised to bring on new officers people complain, if taxes are raised to benefit the community, people complain. So what is to be done. We have the power to change our community so step up.
taxpayer

Hanover, PA

#13 Sep 12, 2010
I know for a fact that Chief Whitson instructs every one of his officers that they are employees of the people of Hanover Borough. He expects them to be treated as their employer. He is not above going out on patrol on 3-11 or 11-7. He wears the same gray uniform as all of his officers and he treats the citizens in this town with respect. I know he and his officers are doing their best. There have been many crimes solved by his department including drug crimes. Not everything is printed in the paper. Why not? Ask the paper that question. Every citizen has a responsibility to keep their eyes open and report suspicious circumstances. That is what has changed in the last 25 years. People have the attitude if it isn't their property or one of their family getting beat up they should just turn their heads. Next time pick up the phone and call 9-1-1. Maybe, we should help our police instead of bashing them.
Jerry Leppo

Hanover, PA

#14 Sep 12, 2010
I want to thank the Evening Sun for supporting this cause.

However, there is one mistake in the story that needs to be corrected.
Hanover Police Chief Randy Whitson made two appointments with the reporter of this story. The reporter rescheduled the first appointment and simply did not show up for the second appointment. Chief Whitson tried to contact the reporter after this with no success.

We can’t do this without the support of Chief Whitson and our fine Police Force. We can’t do this without the trust of the community. We are fortunate to have both. This error just needs to be made clear.
I want to publicly apologize for any misunderstandings this error has caused to the people of Hanover and to Chief Randy Whitson.
Obviously, I didn’t write the story. But I feel responsible when mistakes are made that compromise the integrity of great people performing great work for the good of the community.
Sincerely,
Jerry Leppo
just sayin

Hanover, PA

#15 Sep 12, 2010
I agree with Shim-- Whitson is too busy to talk. And to Saya, what can be done?
Jerry Leppo

Hanover, PA

#16 Sep 12, 2010
taxpayer wrote:
I know for a fact that Chief Whitson instructs every one of his officers that they are employees of the people of Hanover Borough. He expects them to be treated as their employer. He is not above going out on patrol on 3-11 or 11-7. He wears the same gray uniform as all of his officers and he treats the citizens in this town with respect. I know he and his officers are doing their best. There have been many crimes solved by his department including drug crimes. Not everything is printed in the paper. Why not? Ask the paper that question. Every citizen has a responsibility to keep their eyes open and report suspicious circumstances. That is what has changed in the last 25 years. People have the attitude if it isn't their property or one of their family getting beat up they should just turn their heads. Next time pick up the phone and call 9-1-1. Maybe, we should help our police instead of bashing them.
Thank you. It is refreshing to hear some real truths about our community and our employees. Randy is not only has my respect....he is one of my mentors. Everyone could learn a thing or two from Cheif Whitson.
Jerry Leppo
Running for re-election

York Springs, PA

#17 Sep 12, 2010
xrayex wrote:
<quoted text>
Appearances CAN be deceiving...
Councilman Leppo IS NOT up for re-election this year.
Now that that's out of the way...
The only neighborhood watch group is in the "Clearview" area, it's not for the whole of Hanover. Watches are done by...neighborhood. Jerry IS hoping to help citizens set up neighborhood watches for his neighborhood and others.
So, let's be clear...if he does nothing, he's a bad rep...if he does something, he's a bad rep. He's bad if he does something now because he didn't do it sooner.
You're right (sort of) about one thing. Jerry IS talking, a lot,(door to door lately) to people in the ward about what they need because they won't or don't come to him. He IS seeking publicity. Publicity for his meeting on September 16th at the YWCA in an effort to get people to take active part in their community if they are able. Because if he gets publicity, the public will know and hopefully come and get involved. He's not saying he has all the answers but he's willing to ask the public for their answers and their help so we can all be some part of a solution.
You make it sound like a Hanover Borough council seat is some big lucrative position with tons of perks and a fat salary. It's none of these things. Local government is not that kind of government.
From a safe distance, a council seat seems to be a huge investment of time and an opportunity to VOLUNTEER to have a target on your back so people can make uninformed assumptions about your motives and more easily take potshots and make personal attacks on you. But...in Jerry's case it's his way of trying to give something back to a town he's spent his whole life in and is very proud of. He's a pretty naive guy I guess. Imagine, a call to public service (not self service) for the sake of community...how foolish.
Other than the satisfaction of feeling that you've helped make things better for your town and neighbors, there's not too much compensation.
But obviously, it's never going to satisfy everyone.
All sarcasm aside...
If you can do a better job, if you can solve (or help solve) the problems that Hanover Borough faces, if you have the passion and know-how, we need you in local government...please, please run and do it.
It's a difficult job...especially at times like this.
Jerry Leppo would most likely help you get the signatures necessary to be put on the ballot, just ask him.
You're also right that "There are talkers and there are doers in this world."
Which one will you be?
Oh pahleez, he'll announce he is on the ballot for re-election in February 2011. He could have already set up a neighborhood watch. What was stopping him?
I'm not a talker, so draw you own conclusions.
Do Something

Hanover, PA

#18 Sep 12, 2010
"Hanover Police Chief Randy Whitson said this week his schedule was full and he didn't have time to discuss the issue".

How come the Police Chiefs of Littlestown & Conawago were both able to comment? Something is full all right ... Then again, maybe he's busy trying to find the nonexistent" Code Enforcement officer!
J Forry

Johnstown, PA

#19 Sep 12, 2010
I applaud Mr. Leppo for stepping up to the plate to help protect his neighborhood. When people work together, the results are great. As a nation we have become very complacent and wait for someone else to take responsibility or choose to do nothing until it is too late. Parents are key to bringing change to the actions of youth and young people. My hope is that this movement would take off throughout Hanover.
Jerry Leppo

Hanover, PA

#20 Sep 13, 2010
Running for re-election wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh pahleez, he'll announce he is on the ballot for re-election in February 2011. He could have already set up a neighborhood watch. What was stopping him?
I'm not a talker, so draw you own conclusions.
So, then what are you doing for our community? What have you been doing for the last 3 years while I was learning local government? What do you do when I am devoting hours of time away from my family every week to have a voice in Hanover? What do you do while I spend weekends door knocking to ask taxpayers what they think should be done? And why do you hide behind your computer under an assumed name?
I will run until someone wants the seat. If I don't run and the seat stays vacant....I feel like I am turning my back to Hanover. Are you going to pick up the slack.....who ever you are?????

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