Local state reps want religious garb ...

Local state reps want religious garb law out of school code

There are 75 comments on the Evening Sun story from Apr 20, 2011, titled Local state reps want religious garb law out of school code. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

Whether it's a cross or a Star of David, religious jewelry or clothes can get teachers in Pennsylvania suspended if they're worn in school.

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Disgusted

East Berlin, PA

#42 Apr 21, 2011
We elected these representatives to help our state. Instead of trying to solve unemployement and our children lacking proper educations, they think religion is more important. How about funding our schools so our country can catch up to the Chinese, Japanese and Indians. Those countries actually understand that education is key in how a country exists and grows. The next thing these guys will want will be the kids wearing brown uniforms, then crosses on their sleeves which would gradually mutate into swastikas.
Religion should not be in our schools. Religion should be at home and private. We say we teach tolerance but in the end, we as a country are not. In the name of religion we actively discriminate.
Our representatives should focus on REAL issues.
greatstuff

Gettysburg, PA

#43 Apr 21, 2011
John wrote:
<quoted text>
Do a little research.
What you just referred to means that the guv cannot establish a religion and make you follow it.
If you see a statue, cross or whatever and you don't like it, look the other way, get a life and get LAID.
Please learn something before you speak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_ch...
Hiya, Johnny! You're branching out! Still in stupid zone, I see. "Look the other way, get a life, and get laid." Well, you're a third right. You're a poor ass old man who isn't rich, isn't smart, and isn't getting any. WIKIPEDIA! There's a special citation! Ah, that's not accepted as research anywhere except your house. See the DOW today? I made more than you make in six months. Course, it may go down. But then, it may not. SMOOCH!
Cv westcott

Gettysburg, PA

#44 Apr 21, 2011
I really doubt that most Christian teachers would wear "Jesus Saves" T-shirts to school. Come on folks, lets remember this is about a person wanting to wear a cross. I don't care if you want to say "No" to religious T-shirts and stuff. They have their place. But if that's true, I don't want to see "Johnson" shirts on the men, or stickers of the little man urinating on the sports team you dislike the most. HOWEVER, if that is true, then Islamic women and men cannot wear Islamic garb to teach in. It is a two way street.
just me

York, PA

#45 Apr 21, 2011
couldn't have said better myself
Hanover Local wrote:
Wouldn't it be wonderful if children were taught to be tolerant of different religious faiths. Rather than hiding religion, having open communication conveying differences about people in different parts of the world as well as at home. Ignorance creates fear. Understanding creates love!
Agreed

Hanover, PA

#46 Apr 21, 2011
It sounds to me like there are to many people getting their "panties in a bunch" over a simple thing. I think it would be good for teachers, as well as any other person who wants to, to wear a "symbol" of there practice of faith. After all, we all serve the same God and sometimes having that symbol close reminds of of that no matter the "religion". These guys aren't talking about passing a law to allow them to wear any garment but rather a simple piece of jewlery. You know, like a ring on your finger identifying the fact you are married and in a relationship, etc. Those of you who are making a big fuss over this needs to ask yourself why? What kind of problems can a cross necklace, a star of David, etc really cause? I think it is good for people to be able to express their choice of religion and faith even if it is "small". Every change in life begins with small steps.
Bubby Fusselman

Hanover, PA

#47 Apr 21, 2011
Our economy is in the tank, and Tallman wants to focus on peoples' wardrobe. Great job, Willy. You make us miss Steve Nikol more and more each time you open your mouth to the press.
Off Track

Carlisle, PA

#48 Apr 21, 2011
bb mom wrote:
wow... guess I shouldn't be allowed in the schools anymore because the cross necklace my kids bought me 6 years ago for Mothers day hasn't left my neck since the day I got it!!
I often wear one, too. So much for not discriminating against religion, huh?
toocountry

York, PA

#49 Apr 21, 2011
Well then, I guess we had better not have any other kind of sect in the school system as well.
And that goes for any sport, music, entertainers, plays, movies, and so on.

You fascist uneducated extremist need to get your heads out of yourselves and wake up.

There is a song out there that goes like this:

"If they hang them all, they'll get the guilty.
"If they hang them all, they cannot miss.
"If they hang them all, they'll get the guilty.
"Just remember their gonna' hang you too.

These problems cannot be resolved by taking sides.
That in itself is a belief.
Which evolves into a sect.

Since: Aug 10

Gettysburg, PA

#50 Apr 21, 2011
I kind of find it absurd that somebody can not wear a cross as a piece of jewelry. There are so many religious symbols that folks sometimes wear one without even realizing it. What about the popular yin yang. How many folks recognize a Huguenot cross. I guess even a cornucopia could be considered a religious old Greek symbol. A masonic ring? Another no no for a teacher? Where does it stop. I draw the line though on somebody wearing a shrunken human head or something smelling offensive, as a religious symbol .
And student garbs. Always had to be careful when picking t shirts for my kids. No pictures of guns, knives, weapons etc. Still got my son sent home one day because a shirt had , according to the school, an image of a small Marihuana looking leaf that I missed.
Anyway, you get my point.
FSM

Gettysburg, PA

#51 Apr 21, 2011
Agreed wrote:
It sounds to me like there are to many people getting their "panties in a bunch" over a simple thing. I think it would be good for teachers, as well as any other person who wants to, to wear a "symbol" of there practice of faith. After all, we all serve the same God and sometimes having that symbol close reminds of of that no matter the "religion". These guys aren't talking about passing a law to allow them to wear any garment but rather a simple piece of jewlery. You know, like a ring on your finger identifying the fact you are married and in a relationship, etc. Those of you who are making a big fuss over this needs to ask yourself why? What kind of problems can a cross necklace, a star of David, etc really cause? I think it is good for people to be able to express their choice of religion and faith even if it is "small". Every change in life begins with small steps.
Apparently you did not comprehend the article. Their proposed law is not limited to jewelry, but includes garb, i.e. clothing.

Also, we all do not serve the same god. Many of us do not believe in your fictional superhero. Would you be offended if a teacher wore a shirt that said, "The biggest problem with Baptists is they don't hold them under long enough"? How about "Jesus is not coming, he's just breathing heavy"? What if a teacher wore a shirt quoting the buybull verse from Deuteronomy stating it is alright to rape young girls, or that gays should be stoned to death? How about a science teacher's shirt which reiterates the buybull's ridiculous claim that the sun revolves around the Earth? If you are fine with all of these, then your opinion has some validity. Otherwise, you are a blatant hypocrite.

Religion does not belong in public schools. If you want to teach your children that the Earth is flat, send them to a private school. However, the ridiculous myths of a bunch of illiterate, Bronze Age shepherds do not belong in the public school system. This country already has too many uneducated, religious zealots.

Since: Aug 10

Gettysburg, PA

#52 Apr 21, 2011
FSM wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently you did not comprehend the article. Their proposed law is not limited to jewelry, but includes garb, i.e. clothing.
Also, we all do not serve the same god. Many of us do not believe in your fictional superhero. Would you be offended if a teacher wore a shirt that said, "The biggest problem with Baptists is they don't hold them under long enough"? How about "Jesus is not coming, he's just breathing heavy"? What if a teacher wore a shirt quoting the buybull verse from Deuteronomy stating it is alright to rape young girls, or that gays should be stoned to death? How about a science teacher's shirt which reiterates the buybull's ridiculous claim that the sun revolves around the Earth? If you are fine with all of these, then your opinion has some validity. Otherwise, you are a blatant hypocrite.
Religion does not belong in public schools. If you want to teach your children that the Earth is flat, send them to a private school. However, the ridiculous myths of a bunch of illiterate, Bronze Age shepherds do not belong in the public school system. This country already has too many uneducated, religious zealots.
Apparently you did not read the article either. It is about repealing the existent quite ridiculous IMO law. It looks it came directly out of a hand book of old hard line communists.
FSM

Gettysburg, PA

#53 Apr 21, 2011
ramennoodles wrote:
<quoted text>
Apparently you did not read the article either. It is about repealing the existent quite ridiculous IMO law. It looks it came directly out of a hand book of old hard line communists.
Read again. The current, existing law prohibits religious garb, which includes clothing, not just jewelry, which the poster stated. If you want your children to be miseducated and ignorant, send them to a private, religious school. I do not want my children believing that Earth is 6,000 years old, Bronze Age virgins gave birth, snakes and bushes talk, women are property, slavery is permissible, or child rape and abuse is condoned. We all came from Africa, not incestuous buybull characters. If you want to believe women are property and incest is alright, talk about it at your church. This heinous, disgusting belief system does not belong in public academia. Now be careful you don't fall off of this flat Earth!

Since: Aug 10

Gettysburg, PA

#55 Apr 21, 2011
FSM wrote:
<quoted text>
Read again. The current, existing law prohibits religious garb, which includes clothing, not just jewelry, which the poster stated. If you want your children to be miseducated and ignorant, send them to a private, religious school. I do not want my children believing that Earth is 6,000 years old, Bronze Age virgins gave birth, snakes and bushes talk, women are property, slavery is permissible, or child rape and abuse is condoned. We all came from Africa, not incestuous buybull characters. If you want to believe women are property and incest is alright, talk about it at your church. This heinous, disgusting belief system does not belong in public academia. Now be careful you don't fall off of this flat Earth!
What on earth makes you think that wearing a traditional/religious attire/jewelry will compel such an educator to teach religion in a public school. The curriculum has standard non religious text books.
If they want to teach religion they would have to master telepathy first.
John

Allentown, PA

#56 Apr 22, 2011
greatstuff wrote:
<quoted text>
Hiya, Johnny! You're branching out! Still in stupid zone, I see. "Look the other way, get a life, and get laid." Well, you're a third right. You're a poor ass old man who isn't rich, isn't smart, and isn't getting any. WIKIPEDIA! There's a special citation! Ah, that's not accepted as research anywhere except your house. See the DOW today? I made more than you make in six months. Course, it may go down. But then, it may not. SMOOCH!
Reaching out to you and your type.
You don't connect with anybody so I'm just trying to be nice to the mentally impaired.

The things I say must hold great value to you or you wouldn't have remembered me so well and the things I say.
You must be a teacher.

Now wonder the malls are so full of socially inept kids today.
Good job, you make the Taliban look better every day.

Thanks for posting, always nice to meet a fan.

(don't forget to read the ads)
John

Allentown, PA

#57 Apr 22, 2011
greatstuff wrote:
<quoted text>
Hiya, Johnny! You're branching out! Still in stupid zone, I see. "Look the other way, get a life, and get laid." Well, you're a third right. You're a poor ass old man who isn't rich, isn't smart, and isn't getting any. WIKIPEDIA! There's a special citation! Ah, that's not accepted as research anywhere except your house. See the DOW today? I made more than you make in six months. Course, it may go down. But then, it may not. SMOOCH!
oh.........as much as you admire me, don't think I'm like you - K?

(read the ads)
greatstuff

Gettysburg, PA

#58 Apr 22, 2011
John wrote:
<quoted text>
oh.........as much as you admire me, don't think I'm like you - K?
(read the ads)
"Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." Keep paying those taxes, boy-o, or the big bad teacher-wolf will take that 3 bedroom one-bath ranch.
Bernadette

Ephrata, PA

#59 Apr 22, 2011
This is such a bunch of crap criminals have more rights in this country than anyone.Maybe if more people had religion in their lives this world wouldn't be such a rotten place ! I don't care where you are you should have the right to express your religion!Since when have we turned into a communist country !
reason for the season

Harrisburg, PA

#60 Apr 22, 2011
I don't mind other religions showing up in our schools, but I mind it at the expense of the religion on which this country was founded: Christianity. This country has spent too much time and money getting Christianity out of the schools. If you're going to allow other religions in, bring back Christianity as well. No matter what your religious beliefs, Christianity, and Christ, is the reason for two major holidays, one of which is upon us now: Christmas and Easter. I'm don't espouse organized religion, but I recognize God's place in my life and how much worse off I would be if he did not have a guiding presence.
shim

New Bloomfield, PA

#61 Apr 22, 2011
U must be his wife.
Rendell wrote:
No shim your the ass.
Tallman is a pretty good guy.
shim

New Bloomfield, PA

#62 Apr 22, 2011
His wife again
Rendell wrote:
Look at the bright side at least it wasnt
acorn.
Tallman is a good fella.

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