Fury over sound

Fury over sound

There are 379 comments on the Evening Sun story from May 24, 2011, titled Fury over sound. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

Where there's smoke, there's fire, the saying goes. And were there's noise, there's probably a motorcycle or two nearby.

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mjh233

Warsaw, IN

#1 May 25, 2011
If you choose to live in a brick canyon, how can you then be so foolish as to complain about the echo?

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#2 May 25, 2011
Sounds like the new ordinance will accomplish nothing other than to try and placate the NIMBYs, CAVEs, and holier-than-thou who complain about absolutely everything in GBurg.
JFB

Saint Thomas, PA

#3 May 25, 2011
What about all of the noise from the re enactors that take place every year. People bitch just to hear themselves talk....about nothing. Put some ear plugs in and enjoy life.
Lou

Hyattsville, MD

#4 May 25, 2011
If you destroy it they will not come. Keep it up Gettysburg. Keep biting the hand that feeds you. Soon that hand will stop reaching out and you will be hungry.
Fire Marshal Bill

Gettysburg, PA

#5 May 25, 2011
mjh233 wrote:
If you choose to live in a brick canyon, how can you then be so foolish as to complain about the echo?
I do agree with you. And of course the people who play the vehicle radios at 115 dp donít cause a problem, and all of the trucks running through the community have specially silenced exhaust systems for traveling through Gettysburg.
Helen

Hanover, PA

#6 May 25, 2011
This is part of what Suzy and Jim P. say Gburg is all about, a family friendly atmosphere.
Lois

Gardners, PA

#7 May 25, 2011
move out of town maybe you's will be happy.
she

Hanover, PA

#8 May 25, 2011
I hope there's no ordinance for loud farting! My house would be fined every damn day i'll tell you.
south park fan

Carlisle, PA

#10 May 25, 2011
she wrote:
I hope there's no ordinance for loud farting! My house would be fined every damn day i'll tell you.
haha love it!
fred

Gettysburg, PA

#11 May 25, 2011
Atleast with the bikers we can 'prepare' for their noise. Too bad there is no parade this year.
With the woolie re-enactors and their fat assed wives, we have to listen to cannon and guns going off from April thru Novemember. These activities are random.
I saw in an article that the state cops went to a residence who the inhabitant fired shots into the air. He was arrested. WRECKLESS ENDANGERMENT Now what about the a-holes who fire shots into the air on New Year's Eve?(Adams County thing I guess or at least Upper Adams County) Where are the cops then? Where are the cops when the re-enactor's cannon and rifle goes off?
Looking for an Answer

Woodbridge, VA

#12 May 25, 2011
I have been mystified by this question and have not yet found a reasonable explanation:

Why are motorcycles so loud? A car is many times larger than a motorcycle, but is many times quieter. Are motorcycles designed to be loud, or is it just the nature of the type of combustion engine used? Can motorcycles be made quieter?

My questions are entirely technical in nature, as I do not care to get into the opinions type of questions on whether they "should be" loud.

Does anyone have a reasonable explanation, other than "that's just the way motorcycles are"?
Shut It

Shippensburg, PA

#13 May 25, 2011
People driving factory standard bikes will have no issues. But the Dbags who insist we all be aware that they are here on their very expensive toys will hopefully have to get out.

I had no idea I moved to white trash central when I came to Gettysburg. YUCK.
Sevens

Hanover, PA

#14 May 25, 2011
Looking for an Answer wrote:
I have been mystified by this question and have not yet found a reasonable explanation:
Why are motorcycles so loud? A car is many times larger than a motorcycle, but is many times quieter. Are motorcycles designed to be loud, or is it just the nature of the type of combustion engine used? Can motorcycles be made quieter?
My questions are entirely technical in nature, as I do not care to get into the opinions type of questions on whether they "should be" loud.
Does anyone have a reasonable explanation, other than "that's just the way motorcycles are"?
Most bikes can be as loud or as quiet at the owners want them to be. There are a variety of aftermarket pipes and tuning options that can be added to adjust the sound up or down.

To directly answer your question, bikes are in general louder than cars, because the overall length of the exhaust system is considerably shorter and has less components than passenger cars. Less length and the lack of a cat converter and "proper" muffler means less obstacles the decibels must go through before they leave the pipe. Another variable is the style of the engines. v-twins (Harleys) are by nature not very smooth engines and therefore are louder, while an inline 4-cylinder engine is typically smoother and quieter.

Most motorcycles are stock produced to have a deeper rumble than most cars and trucks, simply because that's what the market demands.
Looking for an Answer

Woodbridge, VA

#15 May 25, 2011
Sevens wrote:
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Most bikes can be as loud or as quiet at the owners want them to be. There are a variety of aftermarket pipes and tuning options that can be added to adjust the sound up or down.
To directly answer your question, bikes are in general louder than cars, because the overall length of the exhaust system is considerably shorter and has less components than passenger cars. Less length and the lack of a cat converter and "proper" muffler means less obstacles the decibels must go through before they leave the pipe. Another variable is the style of the engines. v-twins (Harleys) are by nature not very smooth engines and therefore are louder, while an inline 4-cylinder engine is typically smoother and quieter.
Most motorcycles are stock produced to have a deeper rumble than most cars and trucks, simply because that's what the market demands.
Thanks for your informative response. I do find that information to be helpful in understanding why the average motorcycle on the road can shake my house sitting 100 feet off the road.

I haven't ridden a motorcycle before, and I find it curious that "that's what the market demands". I've always thought people bike because of the less obstructed scenery, free flow of air, and relatively better fuel mileage, but not because of the near-deafening noise. If I were a biker, I think the noise would be a big drawback to enjoying a breathtaking view. When flying commercially, most people I know try to avoid those rows in the back where the engine noise is the loudest.

Thanks again for the technical explanation. It's much appreciated.
Sevens

Hanover, PA

#16 May 25, 2011
I put on a lot of miles on my bikes in a year's time, so I don't really care for very loud pipes. My loudest bike is probably a medium volume. You are right, even after only 100 miles in a few hours' time one tends to get sick of the constant roar. At least I do, anyway.

The reasons you gave are all reasons why a lot of us got into it in the first place, but you forgot about "compensation" syndrome. A lot of people want the loud pipes simply so people will look at them and recognize their awesomeness, I guess. I'm around bikers a lot, and many people seem to ride just for the attention it affords them.
Sevens

Hanover, PA

#17 May 25, 2011
And you also have to remember, there's an awful lot of bikes on the road out there. The average bike won't bother anyone. It's just an obnoxiously loud minority that causes all the hubbub.
just me

York, PA

#18 May 25, 2011
Yep Gettysburg, quit biting off the hand that feeds you! Remember before those loud obnoxuis bikers with the illegal exhaust came to town and other people came to see the town? Now the word got around and familys dont want to come to a "Biker" town. Keep this in mind too Granite Hill. And as far as the ordinance, Gettysburg police will back away from gangs of more than two,also Cumberland township and Officer "Biguns"!
just me

York, PA

#19 May 25, 2011
Sevens wrote:
And you also have to remember, there's an awful lot of bikes on the road out there. The average bike won't bother anyone. It's just an obnoxiously loud minority that causes all the hubbub.
"Majority"
Jeez

Greensboro, NC

#20 May 25, 2011
fred wrote:
Atleast with the bikers we can 'prepare' for their noise. Too bad there is no parade this year.
With the woolie re-enactors and their fat assed wives, we have to listen to cannon and guns going off from April thru Novemember. These activities are random.
I saw in an article that the state cops went to a residence who the inhabitant fired shots into the air. He was arrested. WRECKLESS ENDANGERMENT Now what about the a-holes who fire shots into the air on New Year's Eve?(Adams County thing I guess or at least Upper Adams County) Where are the cops then? Where are the cops when the re-enactor's cannon and rifle goes off?
You are a mean angry little man. What happen a monument fall on top of you? If you had half a brain you would realize those fat assed wives as you put it are not fat it is the period dress. Heck, your dumb ignorance only knows one thing and that is to hate everything that does not conform to your idotic ideas.
Mark P

Hanover, PA

#21 May 25, 2011
Its funny how many people NEED a loud exhaust, stereo, mouth,etc... just so people look at them. When in reality everytime you turn your head to see what the rukus is your first reaction is -what a loser. I have noticed all of these noise makers get less & less attention as it becomes more common. Now EVERYBODY WHO WANTS ONE, HAS ONE. Your no big deal! Having said that, if this law goes into effect, sure you can talk softer or turn your radio down a bit to avoid a fine, but bikers will be forced AROUND The Burg. Is this really fair to those who live in the surrounding area? Please dont tell me they think every moron with a loud car or motorcycle is going to invest in less attention! This is all they have going for them!

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