Beware of road rage at Rte. 116 inter...

Beware of road rage at Rte. 116 intersection

There are 40 comments on the Evening Sun story from Mar 24, 2009, titled Beware of road rage at Rte. 116 intersection. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

Are we too small for road rage? Think again. Since January of this year, I have encountered it twice in the small town of McSherrystown.

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Logical Adult

Mechanicsburg, PA

#1 Mar 25, 2009
Technically; unless there are two clearly marked "Straight-Right" and left hand lanes, traffic in both directions must allow the flow in front of them to proceed safely through the intersection before initiating any action. People have been illegally manuevering that intersection for decades. Passing a car making a left hand turn in that intersection is illegal until the car in front of you has safely negotiated the turn. The reasons should be obvious.

I know what the author of this letter is talking about. The anger is palpable. How a fatal accident hasn't happened there is nothing short of a miracle. We've all got somewhere to be; chill people and we'll all get there alive!
Heather Snyder

Perkiomenville, PA

#2 Mar 25, 2009
I have to deal with this intersection everyday. It's horrible! How about the 3 or 4 cars that continue to proceed through the light AFTER it turns RED? If I am the first or second car in line and the first car on the opposing side has their left turn signal on, I turn. The cars trying to go around on the outside have to wait... I agree, it's a miracle there has never been a fatal accident there. Hopefully it doesn't take that before something is done. That's the worst intersection around.
Kirby G

Bethesda, MD

#3 Mar 25, 2009
Why not install a red light camera at that intersection and sen dout citations to those that run the light, would pay for itself, would help with funding the police department and would be a wake up call to this area !!
Tracer

United States

#4 Mar 25, 2009
That intersection + idiot on cell phone = crash! I've been dealing with that intersetion for years and it never ceases to amaze me at just how stupid people can get when they get behind the wheel of a car.
Sonny B

Gettysburg, PA

#5 Mar 25, 2009
The worst part of this problem is that the police are doing the same thing. I have seen Hanover and Penn Township police run red lights and go around cars. So who is going to stop this problem?

Since: Jul 08

McSherrystown

#6 Mar 25, 2009
This intersection is a game of chicken every time you go through it. Maybe if the opposing lanes were straight across from the other the situation would be a bit better. It is so unsafe I can't believe it operates as it does. I do all I can to avoid it and a potential accident. Something definitely needs to be done.
Hick

New Freedom, PA

#7 Mar 25, 2009
I live very near to this intersection and can tell you that there aren't many accidents at all. More horns and yelling. Sorry to say, but we all turn into cavemen behind the wheel...
PA Driver manual

Washington, DC

#8 Mar 25, 2009
PASSING ON THE RIGHT
Under certain conditions, you may pass another vehicle on the right:
When the driver you are passing is making or signaling a left turn.
When driving on a roadway with two (2) or more marked traffic lanes
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/pa_drive...
Hanoverian

Rockville, MD

#9 Mar 25, 2009
PA Driver manual wrote:
PASSING ON THE RIGHT
Under certain conditions, you may pass another vehicle on the right:
• When the driver you are passing is making or signaling a left turn.
• When driving on a roadway with two (2) or more marked traffic lanes
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/pa_drive...
You forgot to quote the point from the manual following yours:

YOU MAY NOT PASS IF:
• You are within 100 feet of or are crossing any intersection or railroad grade crossing, unless an official traffic control device says you may.

So if you are within 100 feet of an intersection, or are crossing an intersection, you may NOT pass on the right.
colec

Mount Laurel, NJ

#10 Mar 25, 2009
I too pass this way every morning and it is amazing the number of people who go through the light after it is turned red (at least 3 cars). Also, I have seen the police cars sitting in the parking lot of turkey hill. A red light camera would be an absolutely wonderful idea to catch those who run through the light. Hopefully, something will be done before someone is seriously injured.
tom

Hanover, PA

#11 Mar 25, 2009
There is nothing wrong with passing on the right while someone is making a left hand turn. If you can do so safely. This is done in many areas and other states as well. When I turn left at any intersections I will stay as close to the center line as possible so other vehicles can go around, so as not to interrupt the flow of traffic. This practice is called,"BEING CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS." Perhaps if most of you would pay attention to your job at the current moment IE;driving a vehicle and stop trying to be the self-appointed hall monitor/traffic cop in this case there would be no problem. If the borough did not want to have vehicles passing on the right then they can put up a sign saying so as in other cities or change the traffic lites so that only one travel lane has the green at a time. Stop whining and mind your own business. Thank you.

Since: Mar 09

Hanover,Pa

#12 Mar 25, 2009
I have to agree with "tom" on the passing on the right safely and slowly. If everyone had to wait for the left turning car to make the left turn you would have traffic backing up to main & 3rd St. in McSherrystown, as it is traffic backs up to 5th and 6th st on a daily basis.
As for running red lights, Don't Do It! STOP if you are not in the intersection when the light turns yellow. There also needs to be a better marked "Stop Here On Red" on Elm Ave. westbound. People pull up so close they can't see the light when it turns green and also make it hard for large trucks to make the turn. And as others have said PAY ATTENTION TO THE ROAD! Hang up the cell phone,put down the sandwich, leave the radio/CD alone till you stop and can do them safely.
Mac Sharry

Jersey City, NJ

#13 Mar 25, 2009
Two Words...Traffic Circle!

Make it a trafic circle and things would be better!
micsherry

Mifflintown, PA

#14 Mar 25, 2009
Mac Sharry wrote:
Two Words...Traffic Circle!
Make it a trafic circle and things would be better!
Traffic circles....suck!
Jack

Etters, PA

#15 Mar 25, 2009
tom wrote:
There is nothing wrong with passing on the right while someone is making a left hand turn.....If the borough did not want to have vehicles passing on the right then they can put up a sign saying so as in other cities or change the traffic lites so that only one travel lane has the green at a time.
Expect that it's against the law.
It's not the borough's choice as to whether they want drivers to obey PA state laws.

Since: Oct 08

Middletown, PA

#16 Mar 25, 2009
PA Driver manual wrote:
PASSING ON THE RIGHT
Under certain conditions, you may pass another vehicle on the right:
When the driver you are passing is making or signaling a left turn.
When driving on a roadway with two (2) or more marked traffic lanes
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/pa_drive...
Nice job of pointing out the rules. Most people just blab on and on complaining about things they have no knowledge of.

By the way Marsha- calling this ROAD RAGE is laughable. Rather I would prefer that you publicly admit that YOU are responsible because YOU are one of those drivers who moves way to the right, prior to making a left turn; hoping to block those behind you... After all if YOU cannot proceed why should anyone else be allowed?

Thanks again for posting the link

Since: Jan 09

Harrisburg, PA

#17 Mar 25, 2009
I always love sitting there at the light at that intersection heading toward 94 and a big a** tractor trailer makes a right onto Elm from UTZ. I know they love seeing the fear in my eyes!!!
rek

AOL

#18 Mar 25, 2009
yea i understand what your saying .and i understand that there are morons that drive an read the paper an know how to use a computer
Common Tater

Harrisburg, PA

#19 Mar 25, 2009
tom wrote:
There is nothing wrong with passing on the right while someone is making a left hand turn. If you can do so safely. This is done in many areas and other states as well. When I turn left at any intersections I will stay as close to the center line as possible so other vehicles can go around, so as not to interrupt the flow of traffic. This practice is called,"BEING CONSIDERATE OF OTHERS." Perhaps if most of you would pay attention to your job at the current moment IE;driving a vehicle and stop trying to be the self-appointed hall monitor/traffic cop in this case there would be no problem. If the borough did not want to have vehicles passing on the right then they can put up a sign saying so as in other cities or change the traffic lites so that only one travel lane has the green at a time. Stop whining and mind your own business. Thank you.
Agree, although different intersections different rules. For instance, Hanover Street and Baltimore intersection is laid out the same way, but locals know to stay to the middle if going straight or left so those going right can go on the red. Mostly just the side next to the mansion. You always get the one that sits side by side at the light making 2 lanes and tries to cut you off thinking you are going left and you both go straight! Signs would really help.
No you need to try AGAIN

Gilbertsville, PA

#20 Mar 25, 2009
This applies to passing on the LEFT

3306. Limitations on driving on left side of roadway.
(a) General rule.--No vehicle shall be driven on the left side of the roadway under any of the following conditions:
(1) When approaching or upon the crest of a grade or a curve in the highway where the driver's view is obstructed within such distance as to create a hazard in the event another vehicle might approach from the opposite direction.

(2) When approaching within 100 feet of or traversing any intersection or railroad grade crossing, unless otherwise indicated by official traffic-control devices.
(3) When the view is obstructed upon approaching within 100 feet of any bridge, viaduct or tunnel.
(b) Application of section.--This section does not apply under the conditions described in section 3301(a)(2),(3),(4) and (5)(relating to driving on right side of roadway).2) When approaching within 100 feet of or traversing any intersection or railroad grade crossing, unless otherwise indicated by official traffic-control devices.
(3) When the view is obstructed upon approaching within 100 feet of any bridge, viaduct or tunnel.
(b) Application of section.--This section does not apply under the conditions described in section 3301(a)(2),(3),(4) and (5)(relating to driving on right side of roadway).
Hanoverian wrote:
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You forgot to quote the point from the manual following yours:
YOU MAY NOT PASS IF:
&#8226; You are within 100 feet of or are crossing any intersection or railroad grade crossing, unless an official traffic control device says you may.
So if you are within 100 feet of an intersection, or are crossing an intersection, you may NOT pass on the right.
http://www.dmv.state.pa.us/pdotforms/vehicle_...

Cross References. Section 3303 is referred to in sections 1535, 3326, 3327 of this title.
3304. Overtaking vehicle on the right.
(a) General rule.--The driver of a vehicle may overtake and pass upon the right of another vehicle only under one of the following conditions:
(1) When the vehicle overtaken is making or about to make a left turn, except that such movement shall not be made by driving off the berm or shoulder of the highway.
(2) Upon a roadway with unobstructed pavement of sufficient width for two or more lines of vehicles moving lawfully in the direction being traveled by the overtaken vehicle, except that such movement shall not be made by driving off the roadway.
(b) Limitation.--No passing movement under this section shall be made unless the movement can be made in safety.

Left turns

3322. Vehicle turning left.
The driver of a vehicle intending to turn left within an intersection or into an alley, private road or driveway shall yield the right-of-way to any vehicle approaching from the opposite direction which is so close as to constitute a hazard.

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