Much unsettled in bypass plans

Much unsettled in bypass plans

There are 36 comments on the Evening Sun story from Jun 11, 2011, titled Much unsettled in bypass plans. In it, Evening Sun reports that:

A proposed bypass running from North Hanover to Brushtown got a shot in the arm last week as local officials looked at an updated plan and cost estimate.

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Facts

Hanover, PA

#1 Jun 11, 2011
And who wants to go to Brushtown???????

We want a bypass to go to Maryland. Duh....
Native Son

East Berlin, PA

#2 Jun 12, 2011
Facts wrote:
And who wants to go to Brushtown???????
We want a bypass to go to Maryland. Duh....
Thank You Hanover Shoe Farms for the traffic jams in Hanover.
Taxpayer

Carlisle, PA

#3 Jun 12, 2011
This will be great, then they can build more banks and clothing stores. The only thing the townships see is the ability for more businesses. Before you know it, we have nothing but lights and traffic and nothing is better. Why waste time on small projects and just do what is right.....A bypass from MD thru Hanover to Rt15 so we can get all of the truck traffic off the roads. But I dont think that will happen and we will end up with an extended Eisenhower Blvd....because that is such a success....at least the tiny hineys will be able to cruise just a little further on a Friday night.
Duh

Hanover, PA

#4 Jun 12, 2011
Just more of the "build it and they will come" mentality. Just because there is another shopping center going up does not mean that shoppers will be flocking there. The economy is horrible and those who have jobs are going to be hard pressed to justify spending money in a frivolous manner. I know I am not and I'm probably not alone.
national enquirer

Hanover, PA

#5 Jun 12, 2011
marcy hagarman's statement, "we won't build it, own it or maintain it", reminds me of the conewago township supervisor's mentality when the Hanover Gateway project was in the planning stages. They complained about who was gonna maintain the traffic light at the small hill. hagarman, stop having that attitude right off the bat, instead of being so defensive from the get go, show others you are willing to work together. your citizen's already get the feeling that you'll take their hard earned money in ridiculous ordinance fines and permit fees, so maybe you should consider spending it wisely
Timeout

Hanover, PA

#6 Jun 12, 2011
If you drove through Main Street, McSherrystown around 5pm and tried to make a left hand turn, you would understand why they are thinking about a bypass.
5 year plan

Carlisle, PA

#7 Jun 12, 2011
Timeout wrote:
If you drove through Main Street, McSherrystown around 5pm and tried to make a left hand turn, you would understand why they are thinking about a bypass.
that's right, it is mcsherrystown's traffic problem as much as anybody else and yet they(mcsherrytown) don't care and don't want to spend money to improve their own community. what exactly are they doing with the tax money? where is the common sense and long term planning? come on mcsherrytown, get with the program and do your fair share.
Excuse me

Hanover, PA

#8 Jun 12, 2011
This bypass has been talked about for years. I will believe it when I see it.
Dave

New Oxford, PA

#9 Jun 12, 2011
5 year plan wrote:
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that's right, it is mcsherrystown's traffic problem as much as anybody else and yet they(mcsherrytown) don't care and don't want to spend money to improve their own community. what exactly are they doing with the tax money? where is the common sense and long term planning? come on mcsherrytown, get with the program and do your fair share.
Lets get to the real point, If Hanover( York County) Would not have Eisenhower Drive, This would not be a issue. Most of the problems are caused by York County, So why don't they step up to the plate and help out with cash. They are getting the majority of the tax money and Adams County has the headaches of trying to build a road to help out with the traffic problem. I gree Mcsherrystown is a mess, but why is it like that. Get real people, Adams county should not have to foot all the bill
hmmm

York, PA

#10 Jun 12, 2011
This is exactly why townships and boroughs need to be eliminated. This plan would help alleviate traffic in McSherrystown and on the north end of Hanover, which affects a large population, not just in these municipalities.

With all these municipalities involved, no one will ever agree on how or when to do it and how to pay for it. This is exactly why the infrastructure in PA is the way it is, crumbling. Roads are inferior, bridges are structurally deficient, etc.

Based on per captia statistics you have a 350% higher chance of dying on a PA roadway than MD, 220% on New Jersey, 410% more than Ohio and 245% more than New York. What's wrong with that picture? There are 3 solutions to traffic problems: Engineering, Education and Enforcement. PA lacks all 3.
hmmm

York, PA

#11 Jun 12, 2011
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>Lets get to the real point, If Hanover( York County) Would not have Eisenhower Drive, This would not be a issue. Most of the problems are caused by York County, So why don't they step up to the plate and help out with cash. They are getting the majority of the tax money and Adams County has the headaches of trying to build a road to help out with the traffic problem. I gree Mcsherrystown is a mess, but why is it like that. Get real people, Adams county should not have to foot all the bill
How does Eisenhower Drive create this problem? Should there be no shopping in your world? A bypass is intended to be just that, a bypass (around McSherrystown). It should not be set up to allow commercial establishments, as it is a bypass. Not to mention, it is bypassing McSherrystown, Adams County.

If people actually traveled outside of their Hanover bubble to other states, they would see how inferior the local infrastructre is. Its not 1935 anymore...

“What Me Worry?”

Since: Oct 08

Littlestown

#12 Jun 12, 2011
I guess they forgot about the huge distribution warehouse that Clarks Companies plans to build across from the current plant.The bypass would go through the parking lot.
Interesting

Greensboro, NC

#13 Jun 12, 2011
I find it interesting that another county is pushing us to fix a problem that has developed in their county and may force landowners in our county to fix their screwups.
Interesting

Greensboro, NC

#14 Jun 12, 2011
Pappy parkway wrote:
I guess they forgot about the huge distribution warehouse that Clarks Companies plans to build across from the current plant.The bypass would go through the parking lot.
Thats were I guess they will just send them a whoopsie basket after they take their land.
Dave

Gettysburg, PA

#15 Jun 12, 2011
hmmm wrote:
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How does Eisenhower Drive create this problem? Should there be no shopping in your world? A bypass is intended to be just that, a bypass (around McSherrystown). It should not be set up to allow commercial establishments, as it is a bypass. Not to mention, it is bypassing McSherrystown, Adams County.
If people actually traveled outside of their Hanover bubble to other states, they would see how inferior the local infrastructre is. Its not 1935 anymore...
I am juet saying that why don't they help foot the bill, If eisenhower drive didn't exist, It would not be as bad. Where does all their tax monet go. York county can help out. I didn't say it should not be done, If you read my post, I sated that Mcsheerystown is a problem that is i'll say it this way, Maybe you'll get it. Mcsherrystown is worse since Eisenhower drive was invented
Sunshine

Hanover, PA

#16 Jun 12, 2011
Pappy parkway wrote:
I guess they forgot about the huge distribution warehouse that Clarks Companies plans to build across from the current plant.The bypass would go through the parking lot.
Your "information" is not correct old man.
national enquirer

Hanover, PA

#17 Jun 12, 2011
Dave wrote:
<quoted text>I am juet saying that why don't they help foot the bill, If eisenhower drive didn't exist, It would not be as bad. Where does all their tax monet go. York county can help out. I didn't say it should not be done, If you read my post, I sated that Mcsheerystown is a problem that is i'll say it this way, Maybe you'll get it. Mcsherrystown is worse since Eisenhower drive was invented
it is called progress. adams county needs to step up and be on board. supervisors like hagarman are the problem with their closed-minded mentalities. everyone needs to work together. those people and small town governments that fail to recognize how change might help their communities as well as seeing how the change might benefit neighboring municipalities will never thrive. instead they will concentrate on miniscule details like ordianance vioaltions......
Sunshine

Hanover, PA

#18 Jun 12, 2011
national enquirer wrote:
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it is called progress. adams county needs to step up and be on board. supervisors like hagarman are the problem with their closed-minded mentalities. everyone needs to work together. those people and small town governments that fail to recognize how change might help their communities as well as seeing how the change might benefit neighboring municipalities will never thrive. instead they will concentrate on miniscule details like ordianance vioaltions......
She is the manager and is expressing the opinion of her bosses, the stupervisors. More misinformation, good bye Topix.
Marodi

Elkridge, MD

#19 Jun 12, 2011
I'm praying that the bypass is alternative 1, with it going over the sinkhole to china. that'll end well...(sarcasm)

Numero Two is definately the better choice imo, seeing as how it's supposed to allow 116 traffic to bypass mcsherrystown, which alternative 1 doesn't do.
Just thinking outloud

Gettysburg, PA

#20 Jun 12, 2011
5 year plan wrote:
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that's right, it is mcsherrystown's traffic problem as much as anybody else and yet they(mcsherrytown) don't care and don't want to spend money to improve their own community. what exactly are they doing with the tax money? where is the common sense and long term planning? come on mcsherrytown, get with the program and do your fair share.
Actually Main Street McSherrystown is State Route 116. So if that is grid locked wouldn't that be a Pen.n Dot problem?

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