Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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#74667 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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But, this G-d curses, abuses, maims, kills and threatens all those who don't worship it or who don't follow its commands.
What kind of a G-d is this?
I see you learned nothing. It wasn't necessary to prove it again,.

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#74668 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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What do you mean by a false God?
By what objective yardstick can the other Gods be called "false Gods"?
There is only 1. All others are false.Get it?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74669 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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How can the Jews claim to be so committed to peace, when the Torah commands the destruction of some cities? Sometimes war is necessary. Judaism teaches that while the supreme value is life, we're not pacifists. Wiping out evil is also part of justice. Dangerous disputes must be resolved, because if you choose to leave evil alone -- it will eventually attack you (Rashi, Deut. 20:12).
Really?

I thought the G-d of the Tanach was an omnipotent being and so despite being all-powerful why did he behave like an ordinary criminal by repeatedly ordering killings, wars and brutalities, when, on the contrary, by using his omnipotence, he could have simply infused the inimical persons with a jot of his supreme power and instantly transformed them into pacifists and supporters of the Hebrews without speaking a harsh word or spilling a drop of blood?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74670 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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It is ironic that the Torah, which introduced to the world the concept of the sanctity of life -- is now criticized as being "cruel"
By repeatedly demanding blood sacrifices, killing of apostates, bashing babies to death against rocks, stoning to death disobedient sons and calling for genocides, how can this so-called G-d of the Torah be said to have taught his people the sanctity of life?

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#74671 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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Really?
I thought the G-d of the Tanach was an omnipotent being and so despite being all-powerful why did he behave like an ordinary criminal by repeatedly ordering killings, wars and brutalities, when, on the contrary, by using his omnipotence, he could have simply infused the inimical persons with a jot of his supreme power and instantly transformed them into pacifists and supporters of the Hebrews without speaking a harsh word or spilling a drop of blood?
You left out free will. Try again.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74672 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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There is only 1. All others are false.Get it?
Only 1?

Which is it?

How do you know it is 1 or 50 or 500 or none?

What is the basis of declaring the other Gods false?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74673 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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You left out free will. Try again.
Free will where bashing innocent babies against rocks, cannibalizing one's own tender kids, stoning to death apostates and stoning disobedient sons? LMAO

BTW, what do you know about the will? Is it really free? Why? How many kinds of will exist, if at all? what is the will?

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74674 Jun 24, 2014
Did the victims of blood sacrifices (as demanded by this so-called G-d) have any choice in the matter? LOL.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74675 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
Do not eat the limb of an animal before it is killed.
LOL

But, you're permitted to cut the throat of the animal and see it painfully bleed to death and then cut off its limb?

How sadistic.

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#74676 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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By repeatedly demanding blood sacrifices, killing of apostates, bashing babies to death against rocks, stoning to death disobedient sons and calling for genocides, how can this so-called G-d of the Torah be said to have taught his people the sanctity of life?
You are merely repeating yourself now without grasping any of the biblical conflict concepts already given to you.

If you would like to know what the Master of the Universe was thinking, you could try to ask him or spend a lifetime studying the Torah and the Talmud.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74677 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
Set up courts and bring offenders to justice.
So, in those days, if a Hebrew turned apostate, he would be tried by this "just" court based on Jewish law and be stoned to death!

Is there any respect for free will?

What kind of justice is this?

Barbarism personified.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74678 Jun 24, 2014
Another fanatical vermin with the IQ of an ass. LOL.

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#74679 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Did the victims of blood sacrifices (as demanded by this so-called G-d) have any choice in the matter? LOL.
link please

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#74680 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
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So, in those days, if a Hebrew turned apostate, he would be tried by this "just" court based on Jewish law and be stoned to death!
Is there any respect for free will?
What kind of justice is this?
Barbarism personified.
He'd be invited to leave

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#74681 Jun 24, 2014
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
Another fanatical vermin with the IQ of an ass. LOL.
projecting

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#74683 Jun 24, 2014
scirocco wrote:
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projecting
in another few hours Apu (my name for Joel) will run out of his stock replies and revert to reruns.
JOEL

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#74684 Jun 24, 2014
The fanatical ass is online. LOL.

JOEL COOL DUDE

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#74685 Jun 24, 2014
IS THE ABSOLUTE REALLY UNKNOWABLE?

1) The absolute consciousness with its innate pure energy (which exists as a dual movement of 2 co-existent phases of its pure potentiality which are the manifest cosmic phase and the unmanifest transcendent phase) is said to be "unknowable" but this is only true with respect to the ordinary consciousness that dominates the human being.

2) Once, the psychic awakening under yogic discipline takes place and the awakened psychic emerges, from its station in the body behind the mental, vital and physical planes, and begins ascending in consciousness from plane to plane, the first 7 of which are in the body with the rest lying above the head, then, the degree of unknowability of the absolute keeps reducing in proportion to the plane of consciousness that the psychic has ascended to and once the psychic merges with the supramental planes (13th to 16th planes) the first light of the true nature of the absolute begins to make itself known to the psychic merged in the supramental planes.

3) As the psychic ascends beyond the supramental realms the degree of unknowability of the true nature of the absolute begins to rapidly fade and as such the the true nature of the absolute appears closer and closer to the ascending psychic until the whole truth of the absolute is laid bare to the psychic once it unites with the self atop the 21st cosmic plane.
never ending

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#74686 Jun 24, 2014
you boys still at it. Look forward to the future!:-)
sick

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#74687 Jun 24, 2014
what kind of sick dude would support evil actions?

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