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"All point mutations that have been studied on the molecular level turn out to reduce the genetic information and not increase it."


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"Natural selection is a real process, and it works well for explaining certain limited kinds of variation - small-scale change…Where it doesn’t work well is where Darwin thought it could, namely, the real complexity of life. We have the finch beak, and then you have the finch itself. Minor change in the structure of the beak versus the origin of the organism itself."

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"We have not the slightest chance for the chemical origin of even the simplest of cells."

- Dean Kenyon, Professor of Biology, San Francisco State University

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JESUS - A TYRANT & NOT A LOVING MOTHER HEN:

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem! You kill the prophets of God. You throw stones to kill men who are sent to you. How often I have wanted to gather your people together as a mother hen gathers her little ones under her wings. But you would not come!"

- Matthew 23: 37

COMMENTS: An egoistic statement uttered by Jesus who intended to impose his teachings on the Jews of his days. The mother hen example shows nurture which Jesus uses in the context to buttress his point about how people rebuff prophets who come to lead them but a true prophet will behave like a loving mother and not seek to harm, abuse, coerce or threaten those who reject his teachings. Does a mother curse or abuse or threaten her child if the child seeks love elsewhere? No. So, Jesus' example of a mother hen is way off the mark and is wrong. Only a tyrant would seek to impose himself forcibly on an unwilling audience. Why should any prophet force his tepid, intolerant and megalomaniacal and often erroneous teachings on people who're unwilling to follow him and when his teachings are rejected which true prophet would enter a fit of rage and curse those who do not follow him? These are not the signs of a true prophet. A true prophet cares not if people curse him, abuse him, insult him or reject him. A true prophet is not out to force any of his insights on a reluctant humanity and he stays far away from making a spectacle of himself. He only desires good for friends and for foes and goes his way peacefully.

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May 10, 2014
 
JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
"Natural selection is a real process, and it works well for explaining certain limited kinds of variation - small-scale change…Where it doesn’t work well is where Darwin thought it could, namely, the real complexity of life. We have the finch beak, and then you have the finch itself. Minor change in the structure of the beak versus the origin of the organism itself."
- Dr Paul Nelson
rabbee: G-D'S selection is not what you would call natural. even if it naturally seems to be so!

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JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
CHRISTIAN OR XTIAN? CHRIST OR X?
Let us always stick to the meaningful and discard the vulgar.
Does that mean you are no longer posting here?

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May 11, 2014
 
To Hughbe with love,

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/0...

A clerk in Arkansas issued the state’s first marriage licence to a same-sex couple on Saturday, a day after a judge struck down the state’s ban on gay marriage late Friday....

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To Hughbe with love,
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/0...
A clerk in Arkansas issued the state’s first marriage licence to a same-sex couple on Saturday, a day after a judge struck down the state’s ban on gay marriage late Friday....
If that upsets him, he can calm down by listening to some nice Xtian music at http://xtianfmradio.com

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May 11, 2014
 
I mean ARKANSAS of all places. Is nothing sacred?

(while he is listening to Xtian radio he can be studying this:
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/10/the_bible_bac...
The Bible backs same-sex couples: Point by point, why the haters are wrong
I was taught the Bible condemned same-sex relationships. So I spent years with the text, and that's simply not true )

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.....But the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus ushered in a host of transformative changes, and one of those changes is vital to our conversation here: Biological procreation no longer determines membership in God’s kingdom. Spiritual rebirth through faith in Christ does.

Under the old covenant, one could simply be born into the people of God. But as Jesus explained to Nicodemus, under the new covenant,“no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again”(John 3:3). In the words of John Piper, God’s people are now “produced not by physical procreation but by spiritual regeneration.”

This change in how the kingdom of God is built has had lasting consequences that pertain to our discussion of same-sex marriage.

First, marriage and procreation are no longer seen as the necessary ways of growing God’s family.

Second, lifelong celibacy is a valid option for Christians, even though it generally wasn’t for the ancient Israelites.

Third, the definition of family has changed for Christians.....

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May 11, 2014
 
Frijoles wrote:
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/1 0/the_bible_backs_same_sex_cou ples_point_by_point_why_the_ha ters_are_wrong/
.....But the life, death, and resurrection of Jesus ushered in a host of transformative changes, and one of those changes is vital to our conversation here: Biological procreation no longer determines membership in God’s kingdom. Spiritual rebirth through faith in Christ does.
Under the old covenant, one could simply be born into the people of God. But as Jesus explained to Nicodemus, under the new covenant,“no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again”(John 3:3). In the words of John Piper, God’s people are now “produced not by physical procreation but by spiritual regeneration.”
This change in how the kingdom of God is built has had lasting consequences that pertain to our discussion of same-sex marriage.
First, marriage and procreation are no longer seen as the necessary ways of growing God’s family.
Second, lifelong celibacy is a valid option for Christians, even though it generally wasn’t for the ancient Israelites.
Third, the definition of family has changed for Christians.....
rabbee: G-D'S Edicts do not change, no matter how much your mental magic from the same old devil again seduces you to try and mentally only change it. The G-D WHO condemns, homosexuality from halooseefer yesterday, still condemns this today. no matter how many of you, are beguiled to pretend other wise in mental magic only. the worship of halooseefers homosexuality, is the worst form of angel worship you can be involved in. and it was the last straw, for sodam and gomorrah. you shall not love, what G-D hates: from hasatan, baal hamolech, or halooseefer in that worsening order. you would be better off, worshiping hasatan than halooseefer. because this is what homosexuals do, is worship themselves with the angel halooseefer.

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yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: G-D'S Edicts do not change, no matter how much your mental magic from the same old devil again seduces you to try and mentally only change it. The G-D WHO condemns, homosexuality from halooseefer yesterday, still condemns this today. no matter how many of you, are beguiled to pretend other wise in mental magic only. the worship of halooseefers homosexuality, is the worst form of angel worship you can be involved in. and it was the last straw, for sodam and gomorrah. you shall not love, what G-D hates: from hasatan, baal hamolech, or halooseefer in that worsening order. you would be better off, worshiping hasatan than halooseefer. because this is what homosexuals do, is worship themselves with the angel halooseefer.
that was a Xtian teaching I posted, doofus.

Your religion and Judaism need not apply

But apt considering the Jamaican professes to be Xtian.

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JOEL COOL DUDE wrote:
JESUS - A TYRANT & NOT A LOVING MOTHER HEN:
"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem! You kill the prophets of God. You throw stones to kill men who are sent to you. How often I have wanted to gather your people together as a mother hen gathers her little ones under her wings. But you would not come!"
- Matthew 23: 37
COMMENTS: An egoistic statement uttered by Jesus who intended to impose his teachings on the Jews of his days. The mother hen example shows nurture which Jesus uses in the context to buttress his point about how people rebuff prophets who come to lead them but a true prophet will behave like a loving mother and not seek to harm, abuse, coerce or threaten those who reject his teachings. Does a mother curse or abuse or threaten her child if the child seeks love elsewhere? No. So, Jesus' example of a mother hen is way off the mark and is wrong. Only a tyrant would seek to impose himself forcibly on an unwilling audience. Why should any prophet force his tepid, intolerant and megalomaniacal and often erroneous teachings on people who're unwilling to follow him and when his teachings are rejected which true prophet would enter a fit of rage and curse those who do not follow him? These are not the signs of a true prophet. A true prophet cares not if people curse him, abuse him, insult him or reject him. A true prophet is not out to force any of his insights on a reluctant humanity and he stays far away from making a spectacle of himself. He only desires good for friends and for foes and goes his way peacefully.
rabbee: hey don't blame US for what, jews, christians, muslems, pagans, other atheists and you have all done. if you are doing something wrong, not true to G-D. i shall tell you about this, but i won't force any one to change who is unwilling to change. but i shall inform those of the consequences, of how this harms them and everyone else on this planet. as it stands now without any repent, i already know what is going to all happen again. it is already forever written in TheTorah, what is forever to be in this world rejecting being here in TheTorah in the original sin. and guess what, adam's mate got this from all of you aiding and abetting that same old devil again.

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DID JESUS PROMOTE SAME-SEX RELATIONSHIPS?

1) "And Jesus said to them,“The sons of this age marry and are given in marriage, but those who are considered worthy to attain to that age and to the resurrection from the dead neither marry nor are given in marriage, for they cannot die anymore, because they are equal to angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection."

- Luke 20:34-36

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The verse above has nothing to do with life in the body or with sex or with the abnormal homosexual condition or with queer relationships.

The verse refers to the afterlife when the indwelling psychic lifts out of the lifeless body and attains to a disembodied state of existence. Obviously, in the disembodied state, relationships are not forged on physical grounds with other disembodied entities or with the universal forces and so it is natural in the discarnate state for disembodied psychics to communicate with each other or to commune with the universal forces in an impersonal manner - this impersonal manner of communication is the only way of entering into entanglements or into relationships in the disembodied state.

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WHO IS A PROPHET & HOW SHOULD A PROPHET ACT?

1) A PROPHET can be either an incarnation of a typal being of any plane of the cosmic hierarchy or he could be a mystic who through yogic discipline has united in consciousness and energy with a typal being of any plane of the cosmos.

2) Either way, a prophet functions from a state of higher consciousness and has a concomitant higher force at his disposal to use as he pleases.

3) A prophet is a Knower and a Doer but should refrain from acting like an ordinary human being living in the unregenerate consciousness.

4) As such a prophet should abstain from the following - meddling with political affairs, tribalism, fanaticism, preaching against the natural laws that promote being and becoming, coercing people to follow him, using his Power to maim/kill his opponents and leading armies in war.

5) Instead, a prophet should work silently to regenerate the terrestrial force fields to the extent that he is capable of and should without saying a word or lifting a finger work for the benefit of humanity in this subtle manner - by infusing the gross force fields of the earth nature with elements of a higher Force of Consciousness that seek to obliterate or transform the perversions and horrors and sufferings that're associated with the deformed forces of consciousness that permeate the world. His very presence should have a global uplifting effect.

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CAN RELIGION, SCRIPTURE OR PROPHET LEAD TO THE SUPREME TRUTH?

Religion, scripture and Prophet make tall claims that are simply what they are - tall claims and nothing more - and so they cannot lead to the Supreme Truth since they're evidently more a source of falsehood, fanaticism and suffering than anything else.

The wise person collects gems of wisdom from every source and after thoroughly reviewing them in an intellectual way to find out if they could have some positive effect in his life goes about practicing the same and gets direct evidence about the efficacy or inefficacy of the wisdom teachings.

When it comes to yoga, one should be very careful since it can turn life-threatening or lead to insanity or yo injury to the organs or to megalomania as it opens up the consciousness to various subtler forces of consciousness that one is unaccustomed to in the ordinary mode of life and besides it takes loads of patience and one must be prepared for immense suffering in the form of attacks from the adverse forces and illnesses or pains in the body in the beginning when the dormant higher forces take hold of the nervous system which takes time to get acclimatised to the new range of awakened forces in the being. If one does not have a competent guide who is himself a person of self-realization, it's better to stay away from yoga.
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REASON OUT BEFORE ACCEPTING ANYTHING & THEN TEST ACCORDINGLY

In this age of information glut, the way to staying the course in a meaningful manner and of making inner as well as outer progress in life is to accept nothing at face value.

Question everything and only if a claim passes the test of reason should it be accepted as a plausibility.

By reason I do not mean the superficial logic of a scientist who sees everything exclusively in terms of crass materialism with his idea of reality of the crass materialistic kind being more a surface effect of deeper supramaterial causes than self-sufficient material causes by themselves.

By reason I mean a deep scrutiny of every claim by getting into the core of its meaning and seeing its interconnectedness with other well-tested phenomena to make an integrated whole and its value in terms of making life more meaningful.

If a claim can pass the test of reason as stated above then one may accept it as a plausibility while all the time being aware of the possibility of its deeper aspects (either positive or negative) that may have been missed in the initial round of perusal.

Above all, one should aim at practicality and not remain stuck on the level of shallow precept or of mere intellectual assent.

The subtler a claim is the more consciousness, including the yogic consciousness, would be required to inquire into its actual existence and benefit.
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BEWARE OF FALSE TEACHERS LIKE KRISHNA & JESUS CLAIMING TO BE THE SUPREME BEING:

Beware of False Teachers whether Krishna, Jesus, Osho or anyone else who make the spurious claim of being the Supreme Being incarnated in a human body.

Everything in the cosmos is a manifestation of the Supreme Source and has at its core the Supreme Presence.

To recover one's supreme nature that lies at one;'s core, one cannot call the Supreme Nature down into the limited vehicles of one's mind, emotions and body but one has to rise in consciousness through all the intervening planes until one re-merges with the Supreme Consciousness and thereafter to act from that poise on the lower planes in an attempt to transform their inferior or unregenerate movements.

For the Supreme Source itself to incarnate on earth is an impossibility since its Supreme Presence, Supreme Knowledge and Supreme Power are so immense that gross matter, being just a feeble manifestation of it, would simply not be capable of accommodating its supreme immensity without being unbalanced or destroyed in the process.

A typal being from any of the lower cosmic planes can partially manifest itself on earth as prophet or as avatar but for the Supreme Source itself to manifest on the terrestrial plane appears impossible for the reasons mentioned above.

Besides, the Supreme Reality is more a featureless or attributeless field of potentiality in terms of consciousness and energy than a personality of any kind.

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Adam 36 wrote:
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Why would you think foreign Arabs have a right to claim land they invaded and conquered over the indigenous populations?
Isaac and Ismael. The children fight, god waits. Stu. What is god if not the kiss, the gifted hope of the other. This final perfect place. Allah il Akbar, god says.the peace, the strife is put aside. The lesson the godlike is here. We must stop killing each other. And god tells us not. Stu. Stop being a fool and and idiot. The lesson of the cro magnon is here. Less population and the hope of god. Stu

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JOEL wrote:
Everything in the cosmos is a manifestation of the Supreme Source and has at its core the Supreme Presence.
So when are you going to start acting towards others as if this is the case?

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