Messianic Jews say they are persecute...

Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

There are 72037 comments on the Newsday story from Jun 21, 2008, titled Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel. In it, Newsday reports that:

Safety pins and screws are still lodged in 15-year-old Ami Ortiz's body three months after he opened a booby-trapped gift basket sent to his family.

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JOEL THUMBS UP

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#64041 Dec 11, 2013
El is listed at the head of many pantheons. El is the Father God among the Canaanites. LOL.

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#64042 Dec 11, 2013
EL:

"The Eternal One (‘Olam) has made a covenant oath with us,

Asherah has made (a pact) with us.

And all the sons of El,

And the great council of all the Holy Ones.

With oaths of Heaven and Ancient Earth."

- A Phoenician inscribed amulet of the 7th century BCE from Arslan Tash

LOL

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#64043 Dec 11, 2013
In some inscriptions of the ancient Phoenicians, the name "El qone ars" meaning "El creator of Earth" appears. So, the prior to the Hebrews, the Phoenicians worshiped El as one among many gods. LOL.

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#64044 Dec 11, 2013
In Hittite texts the expression becomes the single name Il-kunirsa, this Il-kunirsa appearing as the husband of Asherdu (Asherah) and father of 77 or 88 sons. Oh my gosh!

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#64045 Dec 11, 2013
In a Hurrian hymn to EL (published in Ugaritica V, text RS 24.278) he is called "il brt" and "il dn" which Cross (p. 39) takes as "El of the covenant" and "El the judge", respectively. OMG!

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#64046 Dec 11, 2013
For the Canaanites, EL was the supreme God, the father of mankind and all creatures. His sons were Hadad, Yam, and Mot. eeeeks

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#64047 Dec 11, 2013
According to The Oxford Companion to World Mythology:



"It seems almost certain that the God of the Jews evolved gradually from the Canaanite El, who was in all likelihood the 'God of Abraham'... If El was the high God of Abraham—Elohim, the prototype of Yahveh—Asherah was his wife, and there are archeological indications that she was perceived as such before she was in effect 'divorced' in the context of emerging Judaism of the 7th century BCE."

Oh my, the poor copy cat Hebrews! LOL.

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#64048 Dec 11, 2013
LITTLE YHVH - ANOTHER STOLEN PAGAN DEITY:

The name Yahveh originally formed part of a title of the Canaanite supreme deity El - "El du Yahwi saba ot".

Oh fu-ck!

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#64049 Dec 11, 2013
THE STOLEN GOD YHVH -

The earliest putative reference to Yahweh in the historical record occurs in a list of Bedouin tribes of the Transjordan made by Amenhotep III. In it, mention is made of the Shasu of Yhw.

WHAT THE FU-CK, MAN!

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#64050 Dec 11, 2013
PAGAN YHVH:

El was the head of the Canaanite pantheon, with Asherah as his consort and Baal and other deities making up the pantheon. With his rise, YHVH became identified with El to such an extent that El's name became a generic word meaning simply "god"; Asherah became YHVH's consort, and YHVH and Baal at first co-existed and later competed within the popular religion...

Smith 2002, p 33-34

(smiles)

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#64051 Dec 11, 2013
Judaism is a pagan tribal cult based on barbarism given its sordid teachings and evidently the god of Judaism is borrowed from earlier pagan cultures of the region. Competition of the chosen god with other gods forms the theme of all these tribal cults - monolatry at work.

(yawn)

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#64052 Dec 11, 2013
Good morning. LOL.

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#64053 Dec 11, 2013
ha ha ha

JOEL THUMBS UP

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#64054 Dec 11, 2013
Oh my gosh!

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#64055 Dec 11, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Oh my gosh!
Joel, meet Ratloder. With a little luck he might be your next bff.

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#64056 Dec 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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He is heavy on the jargon, but some of the ideas he has can also be accessed thru amazon.com 's Dummys Guide to Spirituality.
rabbee: oh my mistake - i thought he got it, from the national enquirer. is this a birther issues, as to what planet he is from?

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#64057 Dec 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
<quoted text>Not everyone here are monotheists
rabbee: but what if there a other g-ds here, who only believe in one g-d? that is monotheism too, ain't it?

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#64058 Dec 11, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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There's nothing like monotheism.
So, no one can be a monotheist in reality.
The idea that one and only god exists who is the almighty and creator of the universe is a falsehood.
So, monotheism is a falsehood.
Monolatry ((monolatry - the worship of only one god although other gods are recognized as existing) is the religion followed by most people.
rabbee: no joel - you are not the only, monotheistic g-d here. no matter how much you denounce, all the other g-ds here.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#64059 Dec 11, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: but what if there a other g-ds here, who only believe in one g-d? that is monotheism too, ain't it?
If you read Jeremiah, there is support for that idea

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#64060 Dec 11, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Unacceptable evidence. As I suggested initially when I laid out my criticism of your view.
rabbee: do you really want to airgue, with muhammed joel hussinsane? making up his own scripture, ad lib.

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