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#59193 Sep 29, 2013
People who form the government can be dishonest. Government, at the national level, is administrators using infrastructure and/or laws to run a nation. So, some form of governing body has always existed and will always exist. Wishful thinking cannot do away with the need for government.

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#59194 Sep 29, 2013
you guys are cool.. much to learn here..i dont track many threads, but i'm glad i'm trackin this one..

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#59196 Sep 30, 2013
Religion has steadily been destroyed by advances in quantum physics, cosmology, genetics, evolution, neuroscience and noetic science/mind-matter studies. What's left for religion, now? Nothing, except blind faith and fanaticism! ROFL.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59197 Sep 30, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Enjoy your cattle class (economy) seat!
Shame, forget flying first class. He is not even booked on a business class seat.
ROFL.
Yes, cattle class pretty much sums up the experience. However, it is still better than driving, and for that, I appreciate it, moo or no moo.

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#59198 Sep 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Yes, cattle class pretty much sums up the experience. However, it is still better than driving, and for that, I appreciate it, moo or no moo.
Welcome back,(papa).

I missed you.

Hope you had a nice hunting trip - how many birds/animals/worms/insects/re ptiles did you shoot?

Did you "hunt" handsome young boys as well?(smiles)

Yesterday, during a medical checkup, your name spontaneously arose in my mind and I used that as a support to deflect attention from the painful injections and yes I barely felt any discomfort...

In the past, I would think of my loving Mom during times of difficulty and then later it was that evil sorcerer. Yesterday, it was you. Thank you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59199 Sep 30, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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Welcome back,(papa).
I missed you.
Hope you had a nice hunting trip - how many birds/animals/worms/insects/re ptiles did you shoot?
Did you "hunt" handsome young boys as well?(smiles)
Yesterday, during a medical checkup, your name spontaneously arose in my mind and I used that as a support to deflect attention from the painful injections and yes I barely felt any discomfort...
In the past, I would think of my loving Mom during times of difficulty and then later it was that evil sorcerer. Yesterday, it was you. Thank you.
It wasnt a hunting trip. I climbed a mountain.

I didnt miss you or any of this here. Not even a thought.

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#59200 Sep 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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It wasn't a hunting trip. I climbed a mountain.
You climbed a mountain or did you mount someone - a cute boy? LOL.

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#59201 Sep 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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I didn't miss you or any of this here. Not even a thought.
That's ok.

Now that you're back, relax and move ahead instead of holding on to grudges and feeling inferior.

BTW, your close online friend Liam the dunce whose son is born mentally challenged is back posting rubbish as usual.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

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#59202 Sep 30, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
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You climbed a mountain or did you mount someone - a cute boy? LOL.
Behave and stop acting like a weirdo

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#59203 Sep 30, 2013
LEAVING INDIA FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT

Due to ill-health - recurring difficulty in breathing, trembling nerves, fevers, pain in chest and irregular heart beats - I may soon be going abroad for medical treatment if the doctors here insist. One of my doctors mentioned it yesterday. I would like the treatment to be completed in Mumbai where we have fine medial specialists. But, one of my doctors doesn't want to take a risk and mentioned that I had better seek medical treatment abroad and he said that I should seek help fast to prevent further deterioration in my condition.

I know that sorcerer is targeting me and I saw a dreadful vision of him harshly dealing with me 3 days ago.

I have been suffering from bad health and worse ever since I left him. I feel he's going to finish me off. Let me wait and see what happens.

For now I am under medication and may soon leave India for medical treatment if the doctors insist. But, can occult attacks on me be cured by medicines/surgery? I doubt it.

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#59204 Sep 30, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Behave and stop acting like a weirdo.
Ok, sorry.

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#59205 Sep 30, 2013
Good night.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59206 Sep 30, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
HUGH:
TEST YOUR ENGLISH GRAMMAR -
CHOOSE THE CORRECT VERB FORM GIVING REASONS:
1) Gold as well as silver is/are expensive.
2) Bread and butter is/are eaten at breakfast.
3) The news is/are being read on TV.
4) Jack with his dog is/are walking in the garden.
5) Either the boys or the girl is/are crying.
(smiles)
The answer is, OF and a big OF.

Much love.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59207 Sep 30, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Good night.
Sleep well and do 7 jerk offs as they will make you rest well.

Seriously, I wish you well and it is my hope that the things that you have mentioned about your health is pure CS and is just attention seeking.

Love, MON.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59208 Sep 30, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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Nutty extremists exist in every religion. YOU, above all, should understand that.
And let's not forget extreme behavior by Christians that was once considered acceptable....
- Crusades against Muslims, PAgans, Heretics, etc...
- Pogroms against Jews
- Spanish Inquisition
- etc,...
Every religion has blood on their hands, yours included.
1.Response is appreciated.

2.You tend to go back to HUNDREDS of years and at the same time you sidestep the here and NOW.

My examples are ALL about OUR time and they are from LEADERS of Judaism. Meditate on the words.

Rabbi--Ovadia Yosef’s words follow. Tell me about him. Who is he?

A. Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”

B.“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.” From Haaretz

C. On Hurricane Katrina:
“He (Bush) perpetrated the expulsion (of Jews from Gaza). Now everyone is mad at him. This is his punishment for what he did to Gush Katif, and everyone else who did as he told them, their time will come, too,”
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#59209 Sep 30, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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According to his description on wiki, he sounds like another fruitcase, akin to the Christian Pat Robertson (and many like him), that make similarly nutty claims.
BTW - regarding his comments about gentiles...
The American Jewish Committee condemned Yosef's remarks, stating that "Rabbi Yosef’s remarks – suggesting outrageously that Jewish scripture asserts non-Jews exist to serve Jews – are abhorrent and an offense to human dignity and human equality [...] Judaism first taught the world that all individuals are created in the divine image, which helped form the basis of our moral code. A rabbi should be the first, not the last, to reflect that bedrock teaching of our tradition." [40] The remark was also condemned by the Anti-Defamation League.[41]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovadia_Yosef#Rem...
You, Hugh, should know that as an Atheist, I'm no fan of ANY religion. However, fair is fair and you should know better than to judge an entire religion based on the ramblings of a few loud-mouthed extremists. Show me that the majority of ALL Rabbis believe his words, then we have something to talk about.
Who is the man? What sect of Judaism was he the HEAD of? Tell me about the scope of his influence and that of his sect. Explain the quotes below and expand on them by way of more information.

Hint:" Ovadia Yosef, born as Ovadia Yosef or Abdullah Youssef in his native language, is the former Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL, a recognised Talmudic scholar and foremost halakhic authority"

"He CURRENTLY serves as the spiritual leader of the Shas political party in the Israeli PALIAMENT"

Finally, when you speak of the FEW you need to consider their SPHERE of INFLUENCE on the MANY.
HughBe

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#59210 Sep 30, 2013
Cult of Reason wrote:
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According to his description on wiki, he sounds like another fruitcase, akin to the Christian Pat Robertson (and many like him), that make similarly nutty claims.
BTW - regarding his comments about gentiles...
The American Jewish Committee condemned Yosef's remarks, stating that "Rabbi Yosef’s remarks – suggesting outrageously that Jewish scripture asserts non-Jews exist to serve Jews – are abhorrent and an offense to human dignity and human equality [...] Judaism first taught the world that all individuals are created in the divine image, which helped form the basis of our moral code. A rabbi should be the first, not the last, to reflect that bedrock teaching of our tradition." [40] The remark was also condemned by the Anti-Defamation League.[41]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ovadia_Yosef#Rem...
You, Hugh, should know that as an Atheist, I'm no fan of ANY religion. However, fair is fair and you should know better than to judge an entire religion based on the ramblings of a few loud-mouthed extremists. Show me that the majority of ALL Rabbis believe his words, then we have something to talk about.
Cult of R---you should know better than to judge an entire religion based on the ramblings of a FEW loud-mouthed extremists.

HughBe--- I am rushing but I like the tone and balance of your post. That aside does the quote below suggests to you a FEW?

Is the word EPIDEMIC a word that means FEW?

"Municipal RABBIS are public servants funded by the public, and the moment they speak out like the worst Kahanists, they no longer have a place in public service," he said. "We are witnessing a spreading EPIDEMIC of RACISM and xenophobia, and we should act firmly."

Epidemic =extremely prevalent; WIDESPREAD.

Racism= hatred of other races

xenophobia= HATRED of foreigners

I rest my case.

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#59211 Sep 30, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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1.Response is appreciated.
2.You tend to go back to HUNDREDS of years and at the same time you sidestep the here and NOW.
My examples are ALL about OUR time and they are from LEADERS of Judaism. Meditate on the words.
Rabbi--Ovadia Yosef’s words follow. Tell me about him. Who is he?
A. Goyim [non-Jews] were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel.”
B.“Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat.” From Haaretz
C. On Hurricane Katrina:
“He (Bush) perpetrated the expulsion (of Jews from Gaza). Now everyone is mad at him. This is his punishment for what he did to Gush Katif, and everyone else who did as he told them, their time will come, too,”
Okay, let's talk the here and now.

Here's just a small sampling of things MODERN Chrsitians say...

"God hates F@gs"
"Thank God for [Hurricane] Katrina."
"Thank God for dead soldiers."
"We preach hate because the Bible preaches hate."
"Every human, at the moment of birth, utterly deserves to go straight to Hell."
(Regarding the 2008 Chinese earthquakes) "We pray for many more earthquakes to kill many more thousands of impudent and ungrateful Chinese Communists"
(Regarding American soldiers) "These turkeys are not heroes. They are lazy, incompetent idiots looking for jobs because they're not qualified for honest work."
"The Jews killed Jesus. That fact will never change. They have never repented, and they try to bully into silence anyone who states that fact."
"Mohammed was a demon-possessed whoremonger and pedophile who contrived a 300-page work of Satanic fiction: The Quran! Like America's own whoremonger and pedophile wangled his own hokey Book of Mormon!"
- Westboro Baptist Church

"You say you're supposed to be nice to the Episcopalians and the Presbyterians and the Methodists and this, that, and the other thing. Nonsense, I don't have to be nice to the spirit of the Antichrist." —Pat Robertson

Jerry Falwell called Islam "satanic".[50] In a televised interview with 60 Minutes, Falwell called Muhammad a "terrorist", to which he added: "I concluded from reading Muslim and non-Muslim writers that Muhammad was a violent man, a man of war." ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Falwell#Is... )

And here you are, Hugh, harping on the ramblings of ONE bigoted Jew. You need perspective, son.

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#59212 Sep 30, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Who is the man? What sect of Judaism was he the HEAD of? Tell me about the scope of his influence and that of his sect. Explain the quotes below and expand on them by way of more information.
Hint:" Ovadia Yosef, born as Ovadia Yosef or Abdullah Youssef in his native language, is the former Sephardi CHIEF Rabbi of ISRAEL, a recognised Talmudic scholar and foremost halakhic authority"
"He CURRENTLY serves as the spiritual leader of the Shas political party in the Israeli PALIAMENT"
Finally, when you speak of the FEW you need to consider their SPHERE of INFLUENCE on the MANY.
He couldn't be all that influential if The American Jewish Committee as well as the Jewish Anti-Defamation League ALL condemned his statements. Now compare his quotes to those of PROMINENT Christian evangelicals and I think you'll find there is no comparison. The Christian Evangelicals are, by far, much more venomous in there rhetoric and far more influential and far-reaching (in terms of numbers).

Here's a little exercise for you, Hugh. Count the number of Jews that take this clown seriously. Now count the number of Christians that take ANY ONE of these top 25 influential evangelicals seriously ( http://content.time.com/time/specials/package... ). Tell me which have greater influence, Hugh.

Perspective, son. Perspective.
bmz

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Singapore

#59213 Sep 30, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
LEAVING INDIA FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT
Due to ill-health - recurring difficulty in breathing, trembling nerves, fevers, pain in chest and irregular heart beats - I may soon be going abroad for medical treatment if the doctors here insist. One of my doctors mentioned it yesterday. I would like the treatment to be completed in Mumbai where we have fine medial specialists. But, one of my doctors doesn't want to take a risk and mentioned that I had better seek medical treatment abroad and he said that I should seek help fast to prevent further deterioration in my condition.
I know that sorcerer is targeting me and I saw a dreadful vision of him harshly dealing with me 3 days ago.
I have been suffering from bad health and worse ever since I left him. I feel he's going to finish me off. Let me wait and see what happens.
For now I am under medication and may soon leave India for medical treatment if the doctors insist. But, can occult attacks on me be cured by medicines/surgery? I doubt it.
I wish you well, Joel and I have to be honest even though this may sound brutal to you.

All the symptoms that you have described, tell me that you need to get your head examined by Neurology specialists.

You may have a tumour in the brain and we have experts here, who can take it out. Tumours inside the head can cause all those problems that you mentioned.

You can come to Singapore. I can recommend you the best surgeon, who happens to be a very close friend of mine. The good news is that he has never lost any patient.

It has nothing to do with occult attacks. It is definitely something wrong with your head, Joel.

Best wishes
BMZ

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