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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

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#58815 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Mom had told me on many occasions not to belittle any faith or any community or any nation and to have special respect for one's own community and for one's ancestral religious beliefs and for Yisrael even if one did not subscribe to the scriptural beliefs/religious rituals and to the national policies of Israel. She was herself non-observant but was proud of ethno-cultural Yahadut and its millennia-old significant contributions to world progress. However, both my late Ab and Ima were opposed to fanaticism and megalomanical visions of Jewish domination over the goyim and the like.
Jewish domination.....6 million Jews in Israel dominate 7 billion.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

Any more jokes?
Eric

Oak Brook, IL

#58816 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Mom had told me on many occasions not to belittle any faith or any community or any nation and to have special respect for one's own community and for one's ancestral religious beliefs and for Yisrael even if one did not subscribe to the scriptural beliefs/religious rituals and to the national policies of Israel.
I guess brains skip a generation in your family.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#58817 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
At times I really feel bad about repeatedly picking on my people and my ancestral faith...
rabbee: well the good news joel, is that nobody can call you paranoid. because they all are, really against you.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58818 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, but I'll not indulge in penetrative sex - oral, vaginal or anal - with her for reasons connected with transfer of forces that will damage my hyper-sensitive nervous system due to the spontaneous yogic experiences that're continuing till the present....
So, maybe, she can give me a quick hand-job or something like that, Mon.
Mon, are you aware of Newton's 4th law of motion?
It says - a hand in motion produces a white lotion.
But, but, but, Mon, masturbation is also alien to me except for 2 occasions that I experimented with this disgusting habit and experienced severe chest pain and a drain of vital energy.
So, what should I do, Mon?
(smiles)
Joel---masturbation is also alien to me except for 2 occasions that I experimented with this DISGUSTING HABIT and experienced severe chest pain and a drain of vital energy.
So, what should I do, Mon?

Hugh---- Explain your reasons for calling your TWO indulgences, HABIT and more precisely DISGUSTING HABIT.

Did you find jerking-off more disgusting than your daily habit of doing #2? If no, desist from doing #2.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58819 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
<quoted text>
Many Jews are very decent people, whereas the observant types are the ones that display all the venom, etc.
There seems to be much merit in your words.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58820 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Newton's 4th law of motion:
A hand in motion produces a white lotion.
(smiles)
Lotion is good for your skin, so I am told. Apply some today. Do it NOW.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58821 Sep 23, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
Have YOU a problem with basic English?
Who violated the second commandment?
Care to answer?
Adam---Who violated the second commandment?
Care to answer?

HughBe--- Forgive me Adam, I have attributed more to you than is merited. The rabbis have made themselves into gods who are at least the equal to God Almighty.

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#58822 Sep 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
Joel---masturbation is also alien to me except for 2 occasions that I experimented with this DISGUSTING HABIT and experienced severe chest pain and a drain of vital energy.
So, what should I do, Mon?
Hugh---- Explain your reasons for calling your TWO indulgences, HABIT and more precisely DISGUSTING HABIT.
Did you find jerking-off more disgusting than your daily habit of doing #2? If no, desist from doing #2.
Find a sheep
Richard

Tolleson, AZ

#58823 Sep 23, 2013
I pray for peace but all too often what takes place is war. In the middle east we have wars and rumors of wars and sometimes rumors of a new peace deal on an almost weekly basis. In addition the killing of Christians has been like wild fires in the middle east. Iran claims they will not build the bomb but continue to spin their centrifuges. Current intelligence seems uncertain of when Iran could get the bomb and Israel cannot afford to gamble with this. Another question is rather or not the Russian/Syrian agreement will do the trick in Syria? Already there is trouble with the agreement. Stay tuned. In July of 2012 I wrote a small book that speaks of salvation and some of what the Bible says will happen in the end times as well as what will happen during the period known as the seven (360 day) year tribulation and other soon to take place events. I donít accept donations and itís free. Itís about 6 or 7 pages, so itís a short read. I encourage you to have a look: http://www.booksie.com/religion_and_spiritual...
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58824 Sep 23, 2013
later as I must go now.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#58825 Sep 23, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
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Jewish domination.....6 million Jews in Israel dominate 7 billion.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
Any more jokes?
I have no problem with Jewish domination. What is important is that whoever dominates be they black, white, Jew or Arab they do so with JUSTICE, TRUTH and EQUITY.

There is no benefit to other races if BLACKS dominate in a selfish, wicked and deceptive way.

Apply the principle to all.

Must go.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#58826 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Mom had told me on many occasions not to belittle any faith or any community or any nation and to have special respect for one's own community and for one's ancestral religious beliefs and for Yisrael even if one did not subscribe to the scriptural beliefs/religious rituals and to the national policies of Israel. She was herself non-observant but was proud of ethno-cultural Yahadut and its millennia-old significant contributions to world progress. However, both my late Ab and Ima were opposed to fanaticism and megalomanical visions of Jewish domination over the goyim and the like.
stay off the Datura

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#58827 Sep 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Anyone who seeks to enslave others are CRIMINALS and EVIL, in my opinion.
The Jewish people have been enslaved via how they live and how they are FORCED to think. The Jewish people DO NOT have the BASIC human RIGHT of FREEDOM to CHOOSE their RELIGION and in particular Christianity.
Should they have the BALLS to exercise their BASIC human RIGHTS then the pharaohs of Judaism seek to strip them of their Jewish IDENTITY. In my opinion, this practice is CRIMINAL. I honestly believe this and even if it is not criminal it is surely TOTALLY dishonest.
The Jews are the DESCENDANTS of Israel and by definition they are ALL Israelites by BIOLOGY. Nothing can change this FACT of life and HISTORY, not even the LIES of the rabbis.
Link ALL of the above to the many Genealogies in the Tanach and ask yourself this , what is genealogy about? Is genealogy about RACE or is it about RELIGION?
FREEEEEEEDOM!!!!!!!!!!
Jihad against the Rabbis continues

what a waste...

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#58828 Sep 23, 2013
Eric wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess brains skip a generation in your family.
and he never even heard of Sheryl Crow

Adam 36

Since: Aug 13

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#58829 Sep 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I have no problem with Jewish domination.
Must go.
I can see that, just stereotyping Jews.

Since: May 12

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#58830 Sep 23, 2013
JOEL THUMBS UP wrote:
Mom had told me on many occasions not to belittle any faith or any community or any nation and to have special respect for one's own community and for one's ancestral religious beliefs and for Yisrael even if one did not subscribe to the scriptural beliefs/religious rituals and to the national policies of Israel. She was herself non-observant but was proud of ethno-cultural Yahadut and its millennia-old significant contributions to world progress. However, both my late Ab and Ima were opposed to fanaticism and megalomanical visions of Jewish domination over the goyim and the like.
I've read your post about circumcision and I do remember you once claim to be circumcised...

As Isaac Arup you were a Christian. As Joel Pastakia you come from a Muslim family, and now your mum is a Jew. LOL
I do wonder what are you or your family tomorrow then?

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#58831 Sep 23, 2013
I am circumcised and am not a Christian nor a Zoroastrian nor a Muslim nor a Hindu nor a Buddhist.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#58832 Sep 23, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>

Jewish domination.....6 million Jews in Israel dominate 7 billion.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

Any more jokes?


By proxy using its Western allies and given the immense money clout of the Jews it can be and has been done.

in a deeper sense, Jews and Israel are the fronts of an international cabal of the NWO types who're making good use of the Jews by empowering them for the time...they were manipulated during WW2 and ever since are being set up for a massive showdown with the forces of Islam who're also being similarly manipulated by the same cabal.

I was in touch with Fritz Springmeir on this subject and have done my own research via the Yoga on this grim subject and am convinced about the existence of the globalists and their sinister aims.

They're preparing the ground for another Punch and Judy show - WW 3.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#58833 Sep 23, 2013
Eric wrote:
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I guess brains skip a generation in your family.
Very intelligent people in my family and in an academic sense many are gold medalists in their respective streams of study.

But, on the whole, my late parents did not encourage only narrow academic success but stressed on critical thinking/out of the box thinking and hands on approach.

My late dad was some kind of a genius in Math and had a razor sharp intelligence in dealing with share market forces and was mostly correct. He also had a great legal brain and would spend hours discussing law and constitution with friends pointing out the finer points and the loopholes.

My late mother had a great flair for English and French and had terrific taste where style and aesthetics are concerned.

I have inherited a lot from them but the Yoga has opened me up to newer ranges of consciousness that would not have been possible had I been living in the ordinary consciousness.

On account of the Yoga, I have had a direct glimpse into the laws of mind-matter and well most of what science says is on the surface or outright wrong.

No scientist can win a debate with me as somewhere during the debate they come up huge paradoxes and with them most things are mere surmises and not the outcome of higher logic nor the result of subject-object union.

I used to debate many scientists/profs till 3 years ago but now I rarely do it since I find it an infantile exercise and well crass materialists with their flawed and rigid ideas put me off and these days I am more interested in getting a deeper glimpse into the workings of the mind-matter matrix.

JOEL THUMBS UP

Since: May 13

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#58834 Sep 23, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Joel---masturbation is also alien to me except for 2 occasions that I experimented with this DISGUSTING HABIT and experienced severe chest pain and a drain of vital energy.

So, what should I do, Mon?

Hugh---- Explain your reasons for calling your TWO indulgences, HABIT and more precisely DISGUSTING HABIT.

Did you find jerking-off more disgusting than your daily habit of doing #2? If no, desist from doing #2.
Sex has never fascinated me from a young age given my exposure to the play of the forces since age 3. I am made in this way - superficial and energy draining or instant pleasure things don't excite me.

Anything mystical or highly intellectual gets me excited and I have seen that these profound activities keep my mind diverted from carnal activities and draw me into higher states of concentration and awareness.

Yes, I did experiment with masturbation on 2 occasions in the past.

The 1st occasion I masturbated was out of curiosity & the experience was disgusting as I could not imagine that boys found it pleasurable to keeping fondling the penis in a certain way to get it to spit out a white liquid. I found the act too mechanical & unintelligent & with my senses well under control it was disgusting. Besides, I experienced pain in my chest after ejaculation and as I ejaculated I could feel the life force draining out of my discharged semen, heart center (the place where the pentuple life forces meet) and arms and felt weakened. The second time I jerked off was to confirm the first bad experience and it was the same.

So, I decided never to indulge in such a disgusting and enervating exercise ever again. I never experience nocturnal emissions or night falls since sleep is alien to me on account of the Yogic Force permeating my consciousness and besides I have overcome the sex urge like I have done away with the need to sleep as part of the Yoga. The semen in me gets evaporated by the heat penetrating my testicular region and the released energies get drawn upwards through the spinal nerves into the brain where I get added energy to function. I am fresh, alert and energetic all day even when there occurs a force attack. All this would be impossible for a person living in the ordinary consciousness. A few close friends know about the details and have seen my highly conscious person and energetic state but some of my doctors acquaintances have doubts since they have never encountered such a condition and so to avoid arguments and ill-will and waste of energy I don't persist telling them about my actual condition but lie to them that I had a good night's rest and have sex regularly. They are satisfied when a person is like everyone else living an ordinary life which to them is "normal".

Some of the biggest mystics have been Jews.

The Tanach patriarchs were mystics of the intense vital kind - lower vital and higher vital, Jesus acted from the higher vital, and Paul the Jew was more on the higher vital plane from where he glimpsed the supramental acting in the vital. Exceeding these yogic attainments of the ancient Jews, have been the super yogic achievements of modern Jews like the Mother (spiritual collaborator of Sri Aurobindo) who had sustained experiences in the supermind that stands high above the vital and another Jew, Max Theon who had yogic experiences in the overmental planes. The overmind is just below the supramental planes. And me too - I am progressing especially after leaving that evil guru.
Jews have a super-sensitive nervous system that easily puts them in direct touch with the supraphysical ranges of consciousness - how they use the power and knowledge acquired would depend on which typal being they come into direct contact with and how refined are their innate instincts. This same trait helps many Jews to become highly intellectual. But, to me, their forte lies in supraphysical contacts and then the lower intellectual.

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