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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46770 Jan 9, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Jesus fulfilled so many prophecies, that it would be a zillion to one, to ever do so.
I think the fulfilled prophecies of Nostradamus' or of Edgar Cayce outnumber those attributed to Jesus.

Can you post just 1 original and truly profound teaching of Jesus?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46771 Jan 9, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Jesus fulfilled so many prophecies
Who prophesied about Jesus? LOL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46772 Jan 9, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I noticed many verses you took out of context, and /or don't understand
Which are they?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46773 Jan 9, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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He didn't come to bring peace, but division.
Only evil men and lunatics come to maim, kill and divide humankind.

Jesus said - I give you peace, my peace....

Isn't this a truly arrogant remark from Jesus?

Did the peace that Jesus brought into the world helped humankind or the unregenerate terrestrial consciousness in any way?
Gtown71

United States

#46774 Jan 9, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Only evil men and lunatics come to maim, kill and divide humankind.
Jesus said - I give you peace, my peace....
Isn't this a truly arrogant remark from Jesus?
Did the peace that Jesus brought into the world helped humankind or the unregenerate terrestrial consciousness in any way?
Yes it would be the comment a very arrogant person would make, UNLESS that person could backup what they say. Yet Jesus made many comments that would make Him a liar or crazy, UNLESS what He said was true.

There is no peace in this world, not before or after Jesus came, and died on the cross, and riding the third day.
There is only peace that the believers in Jesus have.

I felt like a caged lion for years as an atheist, but after the night I was born again, the very first thing to happen to me, is that for the first time in my life I had peace. A piece that passes all understanding.
Pedo

Las Cruces, NM

#46775 Jan 9, 2013
Amen Brother. Continue to find peace.
Pedo

Las Cruces, NM

#46776 Jan 9, 2013
Did you know that a British Thermal Unit is defined as the amount of heat required to raise the temperature of one pound of water one degree Fahrenheit.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46777 Jan 9, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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Yes it would be the comment a very arrogant person would make, UNLESS that person could backup what they say. Yet Jesus made many comments that would make Him a liar or crazy, UNLESS what He said was true.

There is no peace in this world, not before or after Jesus came, and died on the cross, and riding the third day.

There is only peace that the believers in Jesus have.

I felt like a caged lion for years as an atheist, but after the night I was born again, the very first thing to happen to me, is that for the first time in my life I had peace. A piece that passes all understanding.
Jesus and you are mother fu-cking idiots, failures and silly men.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46778 Jan 9, 2013
Gtown71 wrote:
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I had peace. A piece that passes all understanding.
So, what is the root mechanism of peace? How does it relate to terrestrial matter?

How does the peace of say the 18th plane of consciousness differ from the peace of the 12th plane? Any idea? Even that lunatic Jesus would not know the answer, understand?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46779 Jan 9, 2013
TANAKH VERSUS NT:

The NT should not be interpreted through the myopic lens of the Tanakh. Both preach quite different core philosophies. NT, in many critical parts, can be and should be evaluated in the light of the exalted monism taught by the Vedanta and Buddhism.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46780 Jan 9, 2013
However, the philosophy preached by the Vedanta, Buddhism and NT are limited and incomplete.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46781 Jan 9, 2013
El, YHVH, Allah, Krishna and Jesus are sectarian and limited beings.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#46783 Jan 9, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Who prophesied about Jesus? LOL.
Moses, David, Isaiah and Micah to name a few.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46784 Jan 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Moses, David, Isaiah and Micah to name a few.
The observant Jews and Seaside Soon on this thread have disputed this claim and shown it to be wrong - The Christian claim is a case of deliberate and faulty translations/misinterpretation s. In my readings, too, I've not found any direct reference to either Jesus or Muhammad in the Tanakh or in any other scripture that pre-dates these bogus prophets.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46785 Jan 9, 2013
Poor Jesus came to save the world but he couldn't save himself. The world is in a bigger mess due to his advent. LOL.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46788 Jan 9, 2013
ROFL. (smiles)
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#46789 Jan 9, 2013
Bye, BONOBO.

(smiles)

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#46790 Jan 9, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Moses, David, Isaiah and Micah to name a few.
yeah, right.

not.

Please stay in your own backyard
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#46796 Jan 9, 2013
STEFANO COLONNA wrote:
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Living aside the pseudo miracle of the milk... You started by saying which "swords" your prophet used against his enemies, but end up by telling the story of Muhammad feeding a foodless person named Abu Hurirah.
You went out the theme you started.
You did not read the opening statement before each story? That is the problem with you people.

Our prophet had "So many Swords" with him, the Sword of Steel was one of them, which he used rarely!!

Just wait, I will also provide instances where he did use the "Sword of Steel"!!

Just let me list so many cases where he could "kill" people without having to use his sword of steel!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#46797 Jan 9, 2013
Which “Sword” the Prophet Used against his enemies: Part-35

Enemies of Islam represent our prophet as a very cruel and blood thirsty man, who would kill his “opponents, enemies and any one who disagreed with him” at “the drop of hat” and all his adversaries would be “terrified” at the mere sight of him.

The picture is far from true, let us look at some incidents from the life of prophet, as what was “this sword which killed the enmity for ever”

The Case of : SUWAID BIN SAMIT OF MEDINA

SUWAID BIN SAMIT was a resident of Madina and was one of the recognized poet of the city. He was titled as “perfect” by people of his city and he was memorizing most of the Words of Wisdom of LUQMAN HAKEEM, well known wise man of ancient Arabia.

This incident dates when the prophet was in Makkah and was preaching there. Once SUWAID BIN SAMIT went to Makkah to perform ritual of HAJJ or UMRAH. People went out to meet him and greet him. Prophet also met him and told about his mission and that Allah has sent His revelation thru him.

“May be it is something like wisdom of LUQMAN” said SUWAID BIN SAMIT. Prophet asked him to recite some verses from that wisdom.

For a long time SUWAID BIN SAMIT kept on reciting and prophet went on listening. When he was finished, prophet told him that indeed this is very good, but what Prophet has, was Word of God and light and guidance for humankind.

SUWAID BIN SAMIT asked prophet what it was, Prophet recited some portion of Quran. He was very much impressed and said that “indeed it is a very good thing and incomparable”

After that he. Returned to Madina, but he was soon killed by some one in a local dispute. People say that he had become muslim, but did not declare his faith.

Such was SUWAID BIN SAMIT who was fatally injured by the “Sword of Quran and patience” which prophet wielded!

Source: Companions of Prophet: by Talib Hashmi

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