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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#44108 Nov 27, 2012
but wait there's more:
Missouri 1845, Preamble. We, the people of Missouri, with profound reverence for the Supreme Ruler of the Universe, and grateful for His goodness…establish this Constitution…

Montana 1889, Preamble. We, the people of Montana, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty establish this Constitution

Nebraska 1875, Preamble. We, the people, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom .. establish this Constitution.

Nevada 1864, Preamble. We the people of the State of Nevada, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom establish this Constitution…

New Hampshire 1792, Part I. Art. I. Sec. V. Every individual has a natural and unalienable right to worship God according to the dictates of his own conscience.

New Jersey 1844, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New Jersey, grateful to Almighty God for civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing on our endeavors.

New Mexico 1911, Preamble. We, the People of New Mexico, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of liberty

New York 1846, Preamble. We, the people of the State of New York, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, in order to secure its blessings.

North Carolina 1868, Preamble. We the people of the State of North Carolina grateful to Almighty God, the Sovereign Ruler of Nations, for our civil, political, and religious liberties, and acknowledging our dependence upon Him for the continuance of those…

North Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of North Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, do ordain

Ohio 1852, Preamble. We the people of the state of Ohio, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, to secure its blessings and to promote our common

Oklahoma 1907, Preamble. Invoking the guidance of Almighty God, in order to secure and perpetuate the blessings of liberty…establish this…

Oregon 1857, Bill of Rights, Article I. Section 2. All men shall be secure in the Natural right, to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their consciences…

Pennsylvania 1776, Preamble. We, the people of Pennsylvania, grateful to Almighty God for the blessings of civil and religious liberty, and humbly invoking His guidance

Rhode Island 1842, Preamble. We the People of the State of Rhode Island grateful to Almighty God for the civil and religious liberty which He hath so long permitted us to enjoy, and looking to Him for a blessing

South Carolina 1778, Preamble. We, the people of he State of South Carolina grateful to God for our liberties, do ordain and establish this Constitution.

South Dakota 1889, Preamble. We, the people of South Dakota, grateful to Almighty God for our civil and religious liberties…

Tennessee 1796, Art. XI.III. That all men have a natural and indefeasible right to worship Almighty God according to the dictates of their conscience.

Texas 1845, Preamble. We the People of the Republic of Texas, acknowledging with gratitude, the grace and beneficence of God.

Utah 1896, Preamble. Grateful to Almighty God for life and liberty, we establish this Constitution.

Vermont 1777, Preamble. Whereas all government ought to…enable the individuals who compose it to enjoy their natural rights, and other blessings which the Author of Existence has bestowed on man…

Virginia 1776, Bill of Rights, XVI…Religion, or the Duty which we owe our Creator…can be directed only by Reason…and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian Forbearance, Love and Charity towards each other
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#44109 Nov 27, 2012
but wait there is still more:
Washington 1889, Preamble. We the People of the State of Washington, grateful to the Supreme Ruler of the Universe for our liberties, do ordain this Constitution

West Virginia 1872, Preamble. Since through Divine Providence we enjoy the blessings of civil, political and religious liberty, we, the people of West Virginia reaffirm our faith in and constant reliance upon God…

Wisconsin 1848, Preamble. We, the people of Wisconsin, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, domestic tranquility

Wyoming 1890, Preamble. We, the people of the State of Wyoming…grateful to God for our civil, political, and religious liberties…establish this Constitution.

now try and tell me, after this. this nation was founded on the lie of secularism. and that the federal courts are not wrong. with more than 2/3rds of the states, giving ratified reverence to G-D. which means it is automaticly, the law of the land.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#44110 Nov 27, 2012
Do I need to repost my comments from above?
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#44111 Nov 27, 2012
and not one state or commonwealth, recognizing all-h or muhammed.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#44112 Nov 27, 2012
Liam R wrote:
Do I need to repost my comments from above?
rabbee: no! i already know your, form of fantacy lying all too well. your two cents, is not even worth two cents. as i am not even sorry if G-D'S real Son, adam has embarassed you. and i no longer care, if you cannot accept me as TheHisSon of G-D. precisely here again, exactly like it says in TheTorah.

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#44113 Nov 27, 2012
rabbee yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: no! i already know your, form of fantacy lying all too well. your two cents, is not even worth two cents. as i am not even sorry if G-D'S real Son, adam has embarassed you. and i no longer care, if you cannot accept me as TheHisSon of G-D. precisely here again, exactly like it says in TheTorah.
Silly child, it is way too much fun to use only the truth in my posts. Lies are too easily discovered.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44114 Nov 27, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted textSTOP the LIE that Jews don't believe in Christ. This is BS taught by the overlords who enslave the MINDS and MONOPOLIZE the lives of the Jewish people.
Hughbe preaching in public

http://exclaim.ca/images/up-3paul.jpg
MUQ

Dammam, Saudi Arabia

#44115 Nov 27, 2012
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly child, the USA is a secular nation. While many of the people in it follow follow a false god (either Jesus or Mohammud) the "nation" does not worship any God at all.
I was talking about the "past" USA where people wrote on their Dollar Bill... "In God We trust"

Was it a false god or a true God in which they trusted?

I told you that Celtic Pagan Priests are not known for their high IQ s!!
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#44116 Nov 27, 2012
Lecture 8 practice Based on the Teachings of Prophet Mohammad

Part-51

Lecture 8. Practice Based on the Teachings of Prophet Muhammad

Introduction:

Dear friends! Today’s talk marks the end of our month-long meetings. As you know, it is the eighth meeting of this series. I had intended to present to you at least the essential aspects of Islam in my last two speeches but it seems that a lot more time is needed to do justice to the subject. However, to sum up let us return to the basics of which the first principle is the Oneness of God. All heavenly religions, before the coming of Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him), had originally brought the message of the Oneness of God and called to His worship alone.

God’s Personality and attributes:

Let us analyze the basic factors that caused the misunderstanding of this principle and subsequently led their followers to error. The first reason is giving God a physical likeness, a personification; the second, giving His attributes a separate and permanent entity; and the third that they were confused by the limitless manifestations of His Power of creation.

Prophet Muhammad’s Message removes the doubts and clears the misunderstandings and leaves no doubt about the purpose of man’s creation and his relation to God and the universe created by Him.

Images of God:

Let’s first consider the use of images to portray God and man’s relation with God by the followers of earlier religions. They invented likenesses and similitude’s for God. Very soon the idea of God disappeared and His likenesses or symbols took His place. Later, this imagery was given a concrete shape and idols began to be worshipped instead of God.

One of Allah’s attributes is affection and love for His creatures. Allah’s Love and Mercy to His servants was personified in the image of a woman. Among the Aryans a woman symbolizes the tenderness of emotions, a mother’s love for her child. Therefore, Allah’s relation with mankind was shown as the goddess of love. So Allah’s love was given the shape of the mother.

In certain other Hindu sects this love was shown in images depicting a woman’s love for her man. Devoted ‘fakirs’ began to wear a sari and bracelets, to depict their devotion to God, like a devoted wife’s love for her husband.

In the ancient Greek and Roman society God is seen as a female.

God as a Father:

The Semite nations considered it improper to talk about their women folk in public. With them the father is the head of the family. In the ancient ruins of Babylon and Assyria, God is shown as a male figure. The early vision of God with the Israelites is the father, and the angels and human beings are his offspring.

Later, only the Children of Israel are considered to be God’s children. In certain old scriptures of the Israelites the relation between God and mankind is shown like that of man and wife, to the extent that the Israelites and Jerusalem are regarded to be God’s wives.

Among the Christians the metaphor of father and son came literally to mean father and son. The ancient Arabs had a similar attitude. Allah was considered to be the father while the angels were the daughters.

However, Islam has dismissed all such ideas, similitude, metaphors and idioms. It has declared in the clearest of terms that God is One and Only and: Nothing is like Him.(Chp.42:Vrs. 11)

This one little verse has shaken all forms of polytheism to its root. A very short Surah of the holy Quran removes all misconceptions of man about God. According to the holy Book: Say,“The truth is that Allah is One.[112:2] Allah is Besought of all, needing none.[112:3] He neither begot anyone, nor was he begotten.[112:4] And equal to Him has never been any one.”(Chp.112; Vrs.1-4)



(Contd.)
MUQ

Qatif, Saudi Arabia

#44117 Nov 27, 2012
Through this shortest of surahs of the holy Quran emerges the purest and clearest concept of the Oneness of God. It leaves absolutely no chance for any form of polytheism to mar the Islamic Faith, based on the Oneness of Allah.

(Contd.)
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44118 Nov 27, 2012
http://www.salon.com/2012/11/27/goper_tea_par...

A Republican lawmaker in Idaho has picked up on a half-baked proposal floated by the founder of Tea Party Nation, which promises a last-ditch possibility that Mitt Romney could be elected.

It began with Judson Phillips of TPN, who explained on World Net Daily last week that there is still hope for Romney, if 17 of the 24 states that voted for him decline to participate in the Electoral College on December 17.....

“No Allah: know peace”

Since: Jun 07

A sacred grove in Tujunga, CA

#44119 Nov 27, 2012
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
I was talking about the "past" USA where people wrote on their Dollar Bill... "In God We trust"
Was it a false god or a true God in which they trusted?
I told you that Celtic Pagan Priests are not known for their high IQ s!!
I realize that this is a difficult concept for you to grasp, but I'll try again...

Past or present, this country has always been secular. The founders were all too aware of the harm that comes when a country is aligned with any one religion. Even in your part of the world this is easy to see: just recently in the news was a report about the followers of one Islamic sect murdering pilgrims of another Islamic sect

However, in this country, there have been certain individuals that have followed various religions, with the majority worshipping the false god Jesus. Sometimes, they have been in positions of power and have inappropriately placed their beliefs in the public square.
krunal

Europe

#44121 Nov 27, 2012
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rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#44124 Nov 27, 2012
Liam R wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly child, it is way too much fun to use only the truth in my posts. Lies are too easily discovered.
rabbee: child?? are you my grandchildren, forgetting just who are the children here? when your truth are, only the lies of the enemy given to you. do you not know scripture, that only your grandmothers lies can influence me? and there is no way, any of you my grandchildren can decieve me? i am not your child, i am TheG-D child. who gave birth, to all of you. that you have all never been able to accept, here again in the story of Creation.
former res

Broomall, PA

#44126 Nov 28, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
HughBe--- poppycock. You just said that the DNA would remain, so they are JEWS. Apart from that, JEWS started Christianity. Get it?
Yes, and I was raised Catholic and come from a long line of Catholics (religion) but am now agnostic though I am still Irish (DNA).

So a Jew can decide to believe in Christ, thereby becoming becoming Christian but he would still be ethnically Jewish.

(You do see that the word Christ is IN the word Christian?!!)

You see, two different things..

One: religious belief.

The other: ethnic heritage.

I can't be anymore clear than that.
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
STOP the LIE that Jews don't believe in Christ. This is BS taught by the overlords who enslave the MINDS and MONOPOLIZE the lives of the Jewish people.
Historically and generally Jews do not believe in Christ.

I stand by that statement.

Way back when, those who did, became Christians.

Same as today.

If you are not clear on who and what you are, that is only your own fault.

Or somebody wanting it both ways.

Like you enjoy showering with other men but don't want to be labled gay.

If you walk like a gay guy/a Christian/a duck...guess what? You are all of those things.

Glad this is all settled.

:)
former res

Broomall, PA

#44127 Nov 28, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>
I know EVIL when I see it and it is EVIL to say that Jews cannot be Christians.
I KNOW that JEWS existed for hundreds of years BEFORE they Got Judaism. If you KNEW this and understood it YOU would not pursue the BS that you are talking.
Again, you confuse relgious belief with ethnic heritage.

Two different things.

A Jew can believe anything he wants.

So can a gay Jamaican.
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44128 Nov 28, 2012
chuckle

Did you like the pic I posted of master Hughbe?
former res

Broomall, PA

#44129 Nov 28, 2012
HughBe wrote:
<quoted text>.....To Former, awake out of your sleep and world of make-belief. A Jew is a Jew regardless of what he or she believes. Any doctrine contrary to this is SATANIC and evil.
Same same same.

Ethnically, yes - still a Jew.

But Christianity is not Judaism.

Can you relate to that?
former res

Broomall, PA

#44130 Nov 28, 2012
Frijoles wrote:
chuckle
Did you like the pic I posted of master Hughbe?
The mall cop?

I don't think he could handle the stress of that job!

I know it's been a while since I engaged with him.

What am I missing about his point of view?

Does he not see the ethnic piece?
Frijoles

Litchfield, CT

#44131 Nov 28, 2012
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
The mall cop?
I don't think he could handle the stress of that job!
I know it's been a while since I engaged with him.
What am I missing about his point of view?
Does he not see the ethnic piece?
I envision him pursuing people like that with his speeches about Jews.

Hughbe is reasonably intelligent. His views are ideologically constricted. So I am sure he gets the point, but his personal religion forbids him to acknowledge that publically.

You do know he claims to have Jewish ancestry? But I would have to bet his actual interaction with real live Jews (i.e. relatives) is zippo as they wouldnt put up with his nonsense. So he lives in a bubble and forgets how wildly outlandishly nonappropriate his views are to the viewing public. Kind of like a FOx news bubble.

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