Who's to blame for higher gas prices?

Who's to blame for higher gas prices?

There are 29 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Feb 17, 2009, titled Who's to blame for higher gas prices?. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

It's never fun to be a driver with the price of gas trudging upward, but with shrinking supply, those on the other side of the pump say it's not too pleasant to be in their shoes either.

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“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#21 Feb 18, 2009
Bob wrote:
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Just another excuse from another lazy complainer. When it gets bad enough we'll all be "peddling".
I've been an urban cyclist since 2004. My monthly transportation/commuting costs are roughly $0.
It's deceptive not to count maintenance costs, and the cost of replacing things that break. This can run into the tens of dollars in a year. It's enough to feed an entire family*!

*of barn swallows

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Feb 18, 2009
why wrote:
<quoted text>The circle has to start somewhere. What if you were the one chosen to bring it back to the perpetrator but had nothing to do with the original offence?
If you're making the point that "This too shall pass," then "What comes around goes around" gets it across. If you're telling someone that their deeds will get back to them, it's probably the opposite of what you're trying to say.
An observer

United States

#23 Feb 18, 2009
MeowBot wrote:
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It's deceptive not to count maintenance costs, and the cost of replacing things that break. This can run into the tens of dollars in a year. It's enough to feed an entire family*!
*of barn swallows
Well, since the highways belong to everybody, and only motorists and motorcyclists pay a highway tax as part of their gasoline purchase, I would suggest the state legislature look at assessing an additional one percent sales tax on the sale price of bicycles to help cover the cost of highway construction and repairs.

Now, that seems fair, doesn't it?

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#24 Feb 18, 2009
An observer wrote:
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Well, since the highways belong to everybody, and only motorists and motorcyclists pay a highway tax as part of their gasoline purchase, I would suggest the state legislature look at assessing an additional one percent sales tax on the sale price of bicycles to help cover the cost of highway construction and repairs.
Now, that seems fair, doesn't it?
It would certainly seem fair, if highway, fuel, and vehicle taxes came anywhere close to paying for road construction and maintenance. As it stands, in addition to those taxes, road work comes from property and sales taxes, and federal highway funding.

In other words, as a car/motorcycle driver, you're being subsidized by people who don't drive. A cyclist is already paying for the roads, and putting a fraction of a fraction of the wear upon them.

In addition, quite a lot of cycle commuters also own a car or a motorcycle and are therefore paying vehicle taxes, and also the gas tax you mentioned.

I am in favor, though, of licensing for adult cyclists who use the roads, and increased enforcement for traffic violations, both by and against cyclists.
An observer

United States

#25 Feb 18, 2009
MeowBot wrote:
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It would certainly seem fair, if highway, fuel, and vehicle taxes came anywhere close to paying for road construction and maintenance. As it stands, in addition to those taxes, road work comes from property and sales taxes, and federal highway funding.
In other words, as a car/motorcycle driver, you're being subsidized by people who don't drive. A cyclist is already paying for the roads, and putting a fraction of a fraction of the wear upon them.
In addition, quite a lot of cycle commuters also own a car or a motorcycle and are therefore paying vehicle taxes, and also the gas tax you mentioned.
I am in favor, though, of licensing for adult cyclists who use the roads, and increased enforcement for traffic violations, both by and against cyclists.
FYI: Federal highway funding is the gas tax. A portion is retained by the feds, some goes to the states, and a fraction goes to the counties and cities.
Country Boy

Silver City, NM

#26 Feb 18, 2009
An observer wrote:
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Well, since the highways belong to everybody, and only motorists and motorcyclists pay a highway tax as part of their gasoline purchase, I would suggest the state legislature look at assessing an additional one percent sales tax on the sale price of bicycles to help cover the cost of highway construction and repairs.
Now, that seems fair, doesn't it?
The State of New Mexico assesses a "truck tax" on all 18-wheelers, why not on two-wheelers? I agree with observer, all highway and road users should pay a fair share for using our highways, by-ways, roads and streets. Someone above said they already pay the road tax because they also own cars, trucks, etc. When you gas up those vehicles, yes, you do pay a tax for using the highways when you are driving. But that shouldn't excuse you from paying even more for using these roads and highways when you are riding your bikes. Don't you think you should pay extra for that privilege?

All users of our highways, roads, streets, etc., should be expected to help pay for these paved and maintained road systems. Personally, I don't think a 1 percent tax is enough for sales on new bikes. The state should also consider assessing an annual registration fee on two-wheeled, non-motorized vehicles that use our paved streets, roads and highways. Some type of license with renewable annual tags could be issued to bicyclists. When law enforcement sees a violator, they should be cited for non-compliance. Now, that's being fair to all road users! Do any of you agree or should I run for the woods?

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#27 Feb 18, 2009
An observer wrote:
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FYI: Federal highway funding is the gas tax. A portion is retained by the feds, some goes to the states, and a fraction goes to the counties and cities.
Aye, I'll stand corrected on that one. A part of highway funding comes from the gas tax. However, municipal roads and streets are not paid for out of that. When you buy a bike, the sales tax is paying for roads.

Also, the divided highways in many states do not allow bicyclists.

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#28 Feb 18, 2009
Country Boy wrote:
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The State of New Mexico assesses a "truck tax" on all 18-wheelers, why not on two-wheelers? I agree with observer, all highway and road users should pay a fair share for using our highways, by-ways, roads and streets. Someone above said they already pay the road tax because they also own cars, trucks, etc. When you gas up those vehicles, yes, you do pay a tax for using the highways when you are driving. But that shouldn't excuse you from paying even more for using these roads and highways when you are riding your bikes. Don't you think you should pay extra for that privilege?
All users of our highways, roads, streets, etc., should be expected to help pay for these paved and maintained road systems. Personally, I don't think a 1 percent tax is enough for sales on new bikes. The state should also consider assessing an annual registration fee on two-wheeled, non-motorized vehicles that use our paved streets, roads and highways. Some type of license with renewable annual tags could be issued to bicyclists. When law enforcement sees a violator, they should be cited for non-compliance. Now, that's being fair to all road users! Do any of you agree or should I run for the woods?
If we were to base a tax on the actual wear and tear we put on the roads, bicyclists would be paying less than a cent for every dollar charged for motor vehicle use.

In addition, we don't endanger other road users the way motor vehicle drivers do. If we happen to hit a pedestrian, we have the decency to get injured too. Licenses are issued for safety reasons, having more to do with the harm you can do to others than with the safety of the licensee.
If I'm obliged, as you seem to believe, to pay more for using the roads than what I already pay in taxes, then we should give tax discounts to people who don't have kids in public schools and to anybody who doesn't use public parks.

I don't necessarily disagree that we should have registration with renewal for bikes, and licensing too. This would remind cyclists that we're responsible for practicing safe and considerate riding. It would also send the clear message to motorists that we're not using the roads at their pleasure, they're our public roads.

I absolutely disagree, however, with the assertion that we aren't paying our fair share for the use of these public roads. Gas taxes and registration fees still don't come anywhere close to covering the costs. We still have inadequate roads in poor repair, and bridges that grow less sound with every passing ton.

Since: Feb 09

Silver City, nm

#29 Feb 20, 2009
Pam Miller wrote:
Bush is the blame
Pam, I don't know if anyone has told you about this, but there was an election in November and an inaguration in January. Bush is no longer President.

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