Who's to blame for higher gas prices?

Who's to blame for higher gas prices?

There are 29 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Feb 17, 2009, titled Who's to blame for higher gas prices?. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

It's never fun to be a driver with the price of gas trudging upward, but with shrinking supply, those on the other side of the pump say it's not too pleasant to be in their shoes either.

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really

United States

#1 Feb 17, 2009
"There's no relation between crude oil prices and the price at the pump," said Martin Porter, president of Las Cruces-based Porter Oil.

Let's see what the story is when prices are $4 a gallon and oil is $110 a barrel. I'm sure then, they will say it's tied to oil.
hateoilmen

Las Cruces, NM

#2 Feb 17, 2009
supply and demand argument is a load of bunk. Demand is down across the board and supply is way up. There are tankers waiting offshore because there is no place to unload because
all the holding tanks are full. The bankruptcy of flying J may effect prices here, but the price is relatively the same across the country. When the price of oil hit 147 a barrel they told us that the price of gas must follow, as it is tied to the price of oil. Now that oil is one fourth the price it was last summer, all of a sudden the price of gas has nothing to do with the price of oil. What a load of crap. The price of gas now should be around one dollar. This translates to a ripp off of 100%
An observer

United States

#3 Feb 17, 2009
What continually amazes me is that I can drive to Las Cruces, Deming and Lordsburg and find several different prices per gallon at the pump. Why can those retailers offer competitive prices at the pump, and our gas dealers cannot?
really

United States

#4 Feb 17, 2009
Just remember....consumers are already pushing for more fuel efficient and alternative fuel vehicles, inflating the price will just hurt the refiners in the long run.

Karma...what goes around, comes around.

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Feb 17, 2009
really wrote:
Just remember....consumers are already pushing for more fuel efficient and alternative fuel vehicles, inflating the price will just hurt the refiners in the long run.
Karma...what goes around, comes around.
I agree with your main point, which is boring of me, but there it is.

The reason I'm posting is to thank you for not getting "...what goes around, comes around." backwards. Drives me NYUTS when people do that, because it shows that they don't really understand the phrase they're throwing around.

Have a good'n!

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#6 Feb 17, 2009
I got a bike at a pawn shop in 2007 and started riding again (it had been a few years). When gas got near $4/gallon, I started riding more. Now, with some training and practice, getting around town with no gasoline at all is almost effortless, and is immensely pleasurable.

My point is not that I'm some kind of superior person, but that a bike isn't a ridiculous personal transportation solution. It's hard as hell to start with, and many people give up because of that.

I'm here to say that it gets much, much easier with time, and the gas sits in the tank of the truck until time to haul rocks or hay or whatever.

Giving up gasoline is easier than most folks think.
what

Encino, NM

#7 Feb 17, 2009
MeowBot wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree with your main point, which is boring of me, but there it is.
The reason I'm posting is to thank you for not getting "...what goes around, comes around." backwards. Drives me NYUTS when people do that, because it shows that they don't really understand the phrase they're throwing around.
Have a good'n!
Actually it has to come around before going around eh?

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#8 Feb 17, 2009
what wrote:
<quoted text>Actually it has to come around before going around eh?
The subject makes me have a Ratt song stuck in my head.
Pam Miller

Woodland, CA

#9 Feb 17, 2009
Bush is the blame

Since: Feb 09

Silver City, nm

#10 Feb 17, 2009
Gas in Silver City is $2.29, the highest in the state. It is 30 cents cheaper just a few miles away. Local dealers have all kinds of mealy mouthed reasons, but the only true reason is greed. These people are leaches on society. What comes around goes around.
Country Boy

Silver City, NM

#11 Feb 17, 2009
Copper Miner wrote:
Gas in Silver City is $2.29, the highest in the state. It is 30 cents cheaper just a few miles away. Local dealers have all kinds of mealy mouthed reasons, but the only true reason is greed. These people are leaches on society. What comes around goes around.
I have to agree with you. I think motorists throughout Grant County should start boycotting our local gasoline retailers and make a point to drive either to Deming or Lordsburg to buy gas. If your car is half-way fuel efficient, considering even a small savings, we should make the drive down and fill up our tanks. If a large segment of our motoring public would simply make a commitment to save just enough gas to get to Deming or Lordsburg to fill our tanks, we could realize a little savings, while giving a big thumbs down to our local gas retailers.

It's sort of sweet justice: You screw us, we screw you. Let's spread the word: Boycott all Silver City/Grant County gasoline retailers and drive south for the principal of it!
Swans Hummer

White Sands Missile Range, NM

#12 Feb 18, 2009
I blame the savages.
Spam Miller

White Sands Missile Range, NM

#13 Feb 18, 2009
Pam Miller wrote:
Bush is the blame
Shrubbery is to blame?
why

Encino, NM

#14 Feb 18, 2009
MeowBot wrote:
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The subject makes me have a Ratt song stuck in my head.
The circle has to start somewhere. What if you were the one chosen to bring it back to the perpetrator but had nothing to do with the original offence?
bike

Encino, NM

#15 Feb 18, 2009
MeowBot wrote:
I got a bike at a pawn shop in 2007 and started riding again (it had been a few years). When gas got near $4/gallon, I started riding more. Now, with some training and practice, getting around town with no gasoline at all is almost effortless, and is immensely pleasurable.
My point is not that I'm some kind of superior person, but that a bike isn't a ridiculous personal transportation solution. It's hard as hell to start with, and many people give up because of that.
I'm here to say that it gets much, much easier with time, and the gas sits in the tank of the truck until time to haul rocks or hay or whatever.
Giving up gasoline is easier than most folks think.
If this town were more bike friendly I would always be peddling.
An observer

United States

#16 Feb 18, 2009
Country Boy wrote:
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I have to agree with you. I think motorists throughout Grant County should start boycotting our local gasoline retailers and make a point to drive either to Deming or Lordsburg to buy gas. If your car is half-way fuel efficient, considering even a small savings, we should make the drive down and fill up our tanks. If a large segment of our motoring public would simply make a commitment to save just enough gas to get to Deming or Lordsburg to fill our tanks, we could realize a little savings, while giving a big thumbs down to our local gas retailers.
It's sort of sweet justice: You screw us, we screw you. Let's spread the word: Boycott all Silver City/Grant County gasoline retailers and drive south for the principal of it!
I think Country Boy has a pretty good idea. If we all made the commitment to go south to buy our gasoline a couple of times a month for about 2 months, I think our local gas dealers might get the message.

We all moan and groan about the price of gas here, so let's do something about it. Stop your bitching and start planning a couple of trips south each month to fill your tank.

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Feb 18, 2009
bike wrote:
<quoted text>If this town were more bike friendly I would always be peddling.
Parts of town are/can be bike-friendly. I shape my routes so I use residential streets as much as possible, and stay off arteries where I can.

In general, I find drivers here to be more friendly to cyclists than to each other. Of course, there are the many butt holes who consider your right to use the public roads to be a privilege which they have the right to abridge or revoke at any time.

We need public outreach to drivers and cyclists more than bike lanes and such. People honestly believe bikes are just toys and don't belong on the roads.
An observer

United States

#18 Feb 18, 2009
MeowBot wrote:
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Parts of town are/can be bike-friendly. I shape my routes so I use residential streets as much as possible, and stay off arteries where I can.
In general, I find drivers here to be more friendly to cyclists than to each other. Of course, there are the many butt holes who consider your right to use the public roads to be a privilege which they have the right to abridge or revoke at any time.
We need public outreach to drivers and cyclists more than bike lanes and such. People honestly believe bikes are just toys and don't belong on the roads.
I certainly respect your right to ride a bicycle anywhere, anytime. However, I do get pissed when I see adult cyclers blast right through red lights and stop signs. You want motorists to obey the laws and respect cyclists? I say you guys should practice what you preach! It is also irritating as hell to get caught behind a cyclist or group of cyclists who WILL NOT move to the right and let traffic get past them. I would say more cyclists than drivers tend to be road hogs.
Bob

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Feb 18, 2009
bike wrote:
<quoted text>If this town were more bike friendly I would always be peddling.
Just another excuse from another lazy complainer. When it gets bad enough we'll all be "peddling".

I've been an urban cyclist since 2004. My monthly transportation/commuting costs are roughly $0.

“Las Cruces, NM”

Since: Jun 08

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Feb 18, 2009
An observer wrote:
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I certainly respect your right to ride a bicycle anywhere, anytime. However, I do get pissed when I see adult cyclers blast right through red lights and stop signs. You want motorists to obey the laws and respect cyclists? I say you guys should practice what you preach! It is also irritating as hell to get caught behind a cyclist or group of cyclists who WILL NOT move to the right and let traffic get past them. I would say more cyclists than drivers tend to be road hogs.
I love how many people like to get on my case because of silly things other cyclists do. I also love how many cars I see rolling through stop signs, only to turn around and be told that all cyclists should come to a complete stop at every stop sign, even when no cars are even close.

The reason a lot of cyclists don't move over is that drivers of cars, however well-intentioned, have a tendency to squeeze a rider off the road, or pass far too close (often with a big mirror sticking out). Taking the lane is something we do to keep from getting dead.

On the other hand, I've done a lot of driving and a lot of cycling. As a driver, I've been behind cyclists using the whole lane and have never been delayed by as much as a full minute. As a rider, it's extremely rare that I need to use the entire lane to keep from getting clobbered, and just as rare to make traffic pile up.

Drivers like to exaggerate the delays. What can you do? Short answer: Get used to it. They're public roads.

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