Hanna EMS????????????

Hanna EMS????????????

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for the people

Farson, WY

#1 Feb 17, 2007
I was just wondering if anyone is as interested in the fact that the HVFD and the Hanna EMS are restricting access to the mayor and the council members to "their" building? And also the fact that the HVFD and the Hanna EMS are actually SEPERATE entities!?!? Was there a community or public announcement made about this little piece of information in 2001? The problem I have is not with the services of the HVFD or the Hanna EMS, the problem I have is that theese are people in a position of public service and trust - Why all the secrecy and evasiveness??? Why not just be up front and honest??? WHAT IS THERE TO HIDE?????

Since: Feb 07

Farson, WY

#2 Feb 17, 2007
OOOPS!, ANOTHER QUESTION - WHO ACTUALLY "OWNS" AND "PROFITS" FROM THE HANNA EMS AND DO THEY PAY THEIR DRIVERS AND EMTS? DO THEY PAY FOR THEIR OWN SUPPLIES, FUEL FOR THEIR AMBULANCES, BILLING SERVICES, ETC? CAN ANYONE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS? IF THEY HAVE BEEN PRIVATELY OWNED SINCE 2001 - ARE THEY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL FUEL, SUPPLY, RENT, UTILITIES, ETC. FROM THEN UNTIL NOW???
follow the paper trail

United States

#3 Feb 20, 2007
seems the volunteers and also on the hanna ems board..Kostovny is on the board..have not really been voluntering...seems they have been profiting...paper trail is there...its discusting and vulger...
for the people wrote:
OOOPS!, ANOTHER QUESTION - WHO ACTUALLY "OWNS" AND "PROFITS" FROM THE HANNA EMS AND DO THEY PAY THEIR DRIVERS AND EMTS? DO THEY PAY FOR THEIR OWN SUPPLIES, FUEL FOR THEIR AMBULANCES, BILLING SERVICES, ETC? CAN ANYONE ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS? IF THEY HAVE BEEN PRIVATELY OWNED SINCE 2001 - ARE THEY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL FUEL, SUPPLY, RENT, UTILITIES, ETC. FROM THEN UNTIL NOW???
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Farson, WY

#4 Feb 21, 2007
I imagine there is a paper trail but the problem is - where do we start? Here?

http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organizations/h...

http://www.taxexemptworld.com/organization.as...
follow the paper trail

United States

#5 Feb 21, 2007
what the mayor and council SHOULD be doing is not asking what the hanna ems can afford with the money the people donate ..they should require ..allowed by law as a gvt entity..COPYS of the returns for the past years.you may not like what deductions you find...hint;personal cars ,trucks,home morgatges,payment to certain board members..oh we have just started..!
follow the paper trail

United States

#6 Feb 21, 2007
deduction definition..useing our donations to make mgt payments on their homes claiming they need a home or office as an essential part of the day to day running of the service.paying themselves as family members pay eachother as babysitters as some other family members go on calls..exct exct
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Farson, WY

#7 Feb 21, 2007
IF the building is in fact owned by the city, wouldn't it be illegal for them to deny access to the city gov elected officials??? And if so, why can't they get a warrant to enter the premises and can't there be criminal charges for this public access being denied? Or are they "exempt" from common law? Forsay - is there any auditors for NPO's? In this case, can those records be seized or possibly a court order sought for audit? I think TIMELY RESPONSE is of the utmost importance right now - CYA appears to be in action right in front of our eyes! Is there a reason why they are denying public officials access to this building and does anyone ever wonder why this "negotiation" process is being stalled between the city and the "newly surfaced business in town"???
rawlins paper

United States

#8 Feb 21, 2007
just call the newspaper what a story!
roger

Sandy, UT

#9 Feb 26, 2007
i am an attorney in orem utah..your town attorney can get copies of the returns..they may show they are paying mgts exct....which is ridiculous ..but at least you would know where your donations are going ..in whose pockets...havent heard of a setup like that..the town usually runs the amabulance or ems and fire dept?fishy to me...
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Farson, WY

#10 Feb 27, 2007
roger wrote:
i am an attorney in orem utah..your town attorney can get copies of the returns..they may show they are paying mgts exct....which is ridiculous ..but at least you would know where your donations are going ..in whose pockets...havent heard of a setup like that..the town usually runs the amabulance or ems and fire dept?fishy to me...
Thanks for the info! Do you have any other advice? The city tried to set up a meeting with the EMS on 2/14/07 - they declined and gave no further information as to when they would meet with the council. Is there a process that we as citizens can go through, with the aid of our mayor and council of course, to get an audit of some sort? Is there a special auditor for NPO's? Any other advice? Thank you so much! Are all the people named on an NPO's board and also named as "Board of Directors" liable in a situation like this?
former mayor

United States

#11 Feb 28, 2007
I CAN HEAR THE PAPER SHREADERS GOING!CITY ATTORNEY CAN GET EVERYTHING..ITS A SHAME THEY WONT RESPOND AND NOW THE CITY TAX PAYERS HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR THIS CORRUPT NONSENSE RIP OFF ARTISTS AND SCAMMERS.THEY ARE A PRIVATE AMBULANCE SERVICE USEING AND HIDING UNDER THE OFFICIAL TOWN NAME.I WONDER IF THEY PACKAGED THEIR MORGATE INSURANCE UNDER THEIR AMBULANCE INSURANCE AS A PACKAGE DEAL?OR DO THEY HAVE ANY?OR HAVE WE BEEN PAYING FOR.IT!
Kassie

Cheyenne, WY

#12 May 21, 2007
You Know what People,these people of the Hanna EMS several of them for many years I know for a fact that my grandparents Pat and Richard Gregory had put in over 30 years of hard work and dedication saving lives, and doing stuff that you people are complaining about when you wouldn't get off your own ass's and help them out when they needed it. These EMT's and firefighters of the Hanna EMS were not paid a dime if your complaning about why it cost to ride in the ambulance it is to cover gas, mantainance, medical supplies, and parts to keep the vehicals running so there was a sevice so QUIT COMPLAINING!!!!!!!!! You have no right to complain you never had to go on an ambulance call where your entire family could be wiped out at once so I ask you to THANK THE PEOPLE WHO RAN ON THIS SEVICE FAITHFULLY. BECAUSE THEY NEED APPRICIATED BECAUSE OF ALL THEY HAVE DONE FOR A VERY LONG TIME THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD NOT BE HERE TODAY IF IT WEREN'T FOR THEM.I Know it weren't for the Hanna EMS and it's dedicated People i would not be walking today!!!! so i'll be the first on here to Say. THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE VOLUNTEERS OF THE HANNA EMS WHO RISKED THERE LIVES FOR PEOPLE THE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW>
in school

Farson, WY

#13 May 21, 2007
nice use of school time and computers!

Since: May 07

Gillette, WY

#14 May 21, 2007
MAYOR KINDER’S PROPAGANDA MINISTER HAS DECLARED ALL FORMER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND EMS VOLUNTEERS TO BE TERRORISTS!

In the most recent publication of her rag, Mayor Kinder’s propaganda minister, the AVON Bag lady declared:“...the Town of Hanna and its residents are/were being terrorized by the same people (Fire and EMS volunteers, my addition) they had once trusted with their very lives!” She goes on to intimate that the Town Marshals are spending countless hours guarding the people of Hanna from these terrorists.

Is this Kinder’s paranoid delusion being expressed through his mouthpiece? Is this what he is going to use as an excuse for the failure of administration, local terrorists? I have talked to some of the deposed fire and EMS volunteers and have heard not a single threat of any kind from any of them. While they harbor a natural resentment for being slandered by the Mayor and his thugs, they certainly don’t harbor any ill-will toward the people of Hanna.

What the Mayor has to be concerned about is not terrorism, but all the spies that he is surrounding himself with that are going to report on his psychotic behavior and his incompetence and the slightest legal impropriety of his government. We’ve already heard from the Mayor that speed is not important to emergency service response----seconds, here or there, don’t matter. We’ve already heard from the Mayor that anybody can drive a fire truck or operate a pumper—that’s no big deal. We’ve already heard from the Mayor that anyone can be an EMS Tech—with minimal or no real training. And there is more to come. But whose fault is that? He asked for volunteers, didn’t he.

There is no need to throw sabots (wooden shoes) into the mechanisms of this Town. It is self-destructing as I write, from the neglect of past administrations and the indifference and incompetence of the current administration. The incompetence of Mayor Kinder will insure his failure and nobody need raise a finger to topple the bricks. Mayor Kinder is the ticking time bomb who will do it himself. Like every psychopath, he just needs someone convenient to blame his mess on.
Kassie

Cheyenne, WY

#15 May 22, 2007
who ever you are in school that's none of your bussiness wether i did post my comments at school or at home for all you know i was sick yesterday and didn't go to school or did i you tell me but don't accuse people of doing stuff maybe they didn't k it's not your place to judge me or any other person for that matter so stick it!
wow

United States

#16 May 22, 2007
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it? The irony of a "gregory" telling others not to judge, and the family mantra "that's none of your bussiness" (sp) Oh, and "stick it"... Sound familiar?

Since: May 07

Gillette, WY

#17 May 23, 2007
Picking on kids, now. I'll bet you kick the elderly, too. You must be one of those NDMF Kinder troglodytes---one of those new knuckle walking scumbag firemen or ems. Pound your chest and have a banana.
wow wrote:
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it? The irony of a "gregory" telling others not to judge, and the family mantra "that's none of your bussiness" (sp) Oh, and "stick it"... Sound familiar?
Just an Observer

Gillette, WY

#18 May 23, 2007
Werewolf - By looking at the hours/times you’ve posted onto this website, and taking note of how many posts you’ve left here,(even going to the extreme of copying-and-pasting the same ones onto many), you appear to be, literally, obsessed with this website, and this issue in Hanna.
What’s happened has happened. To make your life less stressful, and to get it so your time isn’t, obviously, consumed with this website/this EMS issue - Let it go……just sit back now and wait and see what results in the natural/legally-related side of this issue. By doing this, you’ll have more quality time and fulfillment for your family/other things in your life.
miya

United States

#19 May 23, 2007
amen
girlemeritus

Grandy, MN

#20 May 23, 2007
Observer, you obviously cannot come up with any arguments to refute Werewolf's logic, so you have to resort to other pokes. Sorry, your tactics do not lessen WW's arguments, and only detract from your own credibility, as it does from the other poster on the AMR thread.

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