Summer break could gain 2 weeks

Summer break could gain 2 weeks

There are 39 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Aug 21, 2008, titled Summer break could gain 2 weeks. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Two years after being adopted, Hawaii's unified public school calendar is expected to be changed tonight.

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coachrandy

Honolulu, HI

#21 Aug 21, 2008
on paper this looks good because the schools are trying to help students get credits and graduate and move on. but, the real problem with the summer school reason for changing the schedule is that it won't work. why? because there aren't enough teachers that want to teach summer school. also, it's costly for some students who have a hard time coming up with the kala to pay for summer school classes. nice try.
IdiotBOE

Washington, DC

#22 Aug 21, 2008
Isn't this exactly where we were a few years ago, before they changed it? So, going back to thr original school schedule is considered progressive? Or does the DOE just want people to think at least they're doing something? What orifice do they keep their heads up?
Herbert Morioka

Mililani, HI

#23 Aug 21, 2008
A few years ago the BOE shortened the summer period to seven weeks and since then they have been receiving complaints from students, teachers and parents. Now they are considering to go back to the old schedule and add back the two weeks that they cut two years ago. Then, Board member Breene Harimoto said that the board should not decide on this issue at the next board meeting because there was not enough public input. Not enough public input? The public has been screaming while he was enjoying himself on the recent trip to Disney World. He just came back so give him some time to catch up on the work he missed.
Herbert Morioka

Mililani, HI

#24 Aug 21, 2008
A few years ago the BOE shortened the summer period to seven weeks and since then they have been receiving complaints from students, teachers and parents. Now they are considering to go back to the old schedule and add back the two weeks that they cut two years ago. Then, Board member Breene Harimoto said that the board should not decide on this issue at the next board meeting because there was not enough public input. Not enough public input? The public has been screaming while he was enjoying himself on the recent trip to Disney World. He just came back so give him some time to catch up on the work he missed. Also, he has the nerve to make any comments to the media when he still did not produce the "reflected journal" as requested.

“No Free Speech Zones ”

Since: Jun 08

South Kona, brah

#25 Aug 21, 2008
Summer break is way too long. We no longer have an agriculture based economy that requires the kids to work the farms during the summer.
If we are serious about advancing and promoting real education we'd slowly increase the school year to 210 days.
Teachers had difficulty with the shortened summer taking refreaser courses but generally those classes can now be taken online.
Idle minds make Johnny a dull boy.
Omama

Hilo, HI

#26 Aug 21, 2008
Pualani wrote:
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I used to go to summer school to take subjects that I was not really interested in so that I could get it out of the way. My friends took summer school to have something to do. Not all of summer school is remedial.
Same here! I actually graduated early this way. Reward the SMART kids, please. Longer summers allow them to take more college courses so they can graduate college by 20 and become CEO by 30. Stop this incessant rant about rewarding the dumba$ses who can't even pass remedial courses to begin with.
o wow lau lau

Honolulu, HI

#27 Aug 21, 2008
The BOE is a waste of time and $$$....gotta think out of the box...any under achieving child should attend mandatory weekend remedial classes(7 days). This will definitely prod them to strive for excellence...also, all of the hoodlums will always be supervised in school not on the streets...tink about it...
o wow lau lau

Honolulu, HI

#28 Aug 21, 2008
SCHOOL 7 DAYS???

NO problem meeting AYP
No problem with NCLB
No problem providing for SPED
No discipline problems

No future lolo's..well less of um...lol..
Believer

Waipahu, HI

#29 Aug 21, 2008
Just a thought, why is the BOE meeting at Hanalei Elementary School? Do the majority of the board members live on the north coast of Kauai?
Concerned for others

Ewa Beach, HI

#30 Aug 21, 2008
Believer, it just so happens that the BOE meeting was scheduled for Hanalei on their calendar on their website.

Rats, this doesn't come out well here. Anyhow, guess what? As registered voters, we have a say in who sits on the Board of Ed. And with the Sunshine Law, you are entitled to see their agenda about a week prior. All of the information on the members as well as the discussion relfected in the minutes are posted for public viewing.

August
4 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Select Committee: Budget & Fiscal Accountability
7 Leeward District (Waipahu Intermediate School Cafeteria) Full Board
8 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Board Workshop
9 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Board Workshop
11 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Special Programs
12 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Regular Education: K-12
19 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Public Libraries & Student Support Services
21 Kauai District (Hanalei Elementary School Cafeteria) Full Board
25 Honolulu (Queen Liliuokalani Building) Legislation & Community Partnerships
28 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Audit
September
4 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Full Board
18 Maui District Full Board
October
2 Hawaii District Full Board
16 Central District Full Board
November
6 Kauai District Full Board
20 Maui District (Molokai) Full Board
December
4 Honolulu (Liliuokalani Bldg.) Full Board
11 Maui District (Lanai) Full Board

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three_more_years

Ewa Beach, HI

#31 Aug 21, 2008
The BOE made this change statewide mostly to make the coordination of payroll easier. It didn't have to be a state-wide decision. Each district could and should have made their own decision to coordinate feeder school complexes (Leeward, Central, Windward, outer islands, etc.) instead of foisting a stupid decision on everyone in the entire state with a fake vote. And of course they have to go back to the way it was. Schools on the mainland tried this plan and abandoned it a decade ago because they found it didn't work or make any difference in learning and retention. Hawaii BOE is always behind the times.
jaz

Mililani, HI

#32 Aug 21, 2008
Make the summer vacation during the hottest months of the year not this split vacation foolishness. There is no AC in many of the classrooms.

Whatever happened to common sense?
gks202

Mililani, HI

#33 Aug 22, 2008
The real reason why the BOE made this change is a decision they made a few years ago: starting with the class of 2010, the number of credits a student needs to graduate from high school will move from 22 to 24.

Most high school students take six classes a year. When you multiply that out, the most credits a student can get (without going to summer school) is 24. This means that a high school student cannot fail any classes if he/she wants to graduate on time. What the BOE didn't foresee was a huge increase of students (starting with the class of 2010 after their freshmen year) who failed a course and needed to go to summer school to make up the credit(s). The option to give up an elective during their senior year and make up the class was no longer a choice for these kids.

Unfortunately, because of the short summer, teachers not wanting to teach, etc., some high schools stopped offering summer school which left a huge demand of students who failed and a very small supply of summer schools. Their only option was to return to a longer summer so more high schools can offer summer school.

Why is getting these kids to graduate on time so important to the BOE? Because a school's graduation rate is a criteria to pass adequate yearly progress in the No Child Left Behind Act...

ferrymanb23

Kailua Kona, HI

#34 Aug 22, 2008
If plan goes forward, well this coming summer will be even shorter, since schools get out like 3-4 days later than they did last year, and start 2-3 days sooner than this summer. It would be fair to start in 2nd week of August so teachers get 2 full months.
Dman

Mililani, HI

#35 Aug 22, 2008
It used to be like that when i went to school in Hawaii, worked fine nice long summers! what is up with this BOE.
macuu222 wrote:
Almost all the schools on the mainland have 3 month summers (June July and August). It's been the standard for decades and has worked well for summer school students. Why should Hawaii be any different.
I say instead of 2 weeks...make them gain 4 weeks and fall in line with the rest of the country with no fall break (why does anyone need a fall break?)...one week for Christmas and one week for spring break.
newcomer

United States

#36 Aug 22, 2008
I think that the current system is outdated, and the school should be open year around, maybe a few breaks here and there.
Most of all, what really surprises me is how many people are posting here, are all of these people willing to go and vote and demand change??
Right now, it seems that most people in Hawaii are satisfied with the system, and if they are not they go out and bust their buns to put the little kiddies into a private school. That of course does not solve the problem, because everybody is paying for public schools, so everybody should demand the best, you know, like your grandparents did, and great grandparents who fought hard for free education in this country. So, go out and vote for change, send these current BOE/DOE failures home.
timbro

United States

#37 Sep 29, 2008
lap tops with enteractive abillity to an on going state wide live class .Yes every 2nd grader would be seeing the same lesson but the individule teacher could then expand and work with the lesson durring study periods. this would make home schoolers able to jump in and out of school as parents move.this would allow students behinde to catdh up . and this could eventually allow once there has been a 1st season a student to skip ahead
sssssssss

Honolulu, HI

#38 Sep 29, 2008
timbro wrote:
lap tops with enteractive abillity to an on going state wide live class .Yes every 2nd grader would be seeing the same lesson but the individule teacher could then expand and work with the lesson durring study periods. this would make home schoolers able to jump in and out of school as parents move.this would allow students behinde to catdh up . and this could eventually allow once there has been a 1st season a student to skip ahead
Wasted time for students who don't speakie Engie. One size does not fit all in learning.
jazmine 1425

Fremont, CA

#40 Apr 1, 2011
Summer break at Hawaii public schools would increase to nine weeks from seven while the winter and spring breaks would each lose a week under a new calendar likely headed for passage by the Board of Education tonight.

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