Charges dropped against burial-site protesters - News

LIHUE>> Trespassing charges were dismissed yesterday against five of the eight people who chained themselves together in August to protest the building of a home on top of an ancient Hawaiian graveyard. Full Story
Kimokeo

AOL

#1 Jan 16, 2009
Has construction on this house stopped? I know the owner is a very unpopular guy, but he did jump through all the legal hoops and got his permit. It sounds to me that like him or not, he is caught between the State/County/Burial Council and the protest group and is gatting screwed. I hope he has a good lawyer.
realmerv

Mililani, HI

#2 Jan 16, 2009
I bet those demonstrators aren't even related to the people buried in those graves.

People need to remember their deceased relatives and take care of their graves so innocent purchasers of land that contain these graves will know in advance that there are graves on the property. Most people don't want to buy a vacant lot with a grave on it much less 40 plus graves.

After this property owner completes his home construction, I bet the graves will be forgotten again. Who is going to remember the dead and take care of the graves but the friends and relatives of the deceased?

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

Since: Mar 08

United States

#4 Jan 16, 2009
realmerv wrote:
I bet those demonstrators aren't even related to the people buried in those graves.
People need to remember their deceased relatives and take care of their graves so innocent purchasers of land that contain these graves will know in advance that there are graves on the property. Most people don't want to buy a vacant lot with a grave on it much less 40 plus graves.
After this property owner completes his home construction, I bet the graves will be forgotten again. Who is going to remember the dead and take care of the graves but the friends and relatives of the deceased?
Realmerv got it right.

Most of the protesters are not descendants of these particular dead people -- they are simply using the controversy to make a lot of noise for their own political agendas, including to stop development and to assert race-based control of all the lands of Hawaii. I doubt that any of these protesters ever knew that there were burials at the Brescia property until the controversy blew up. I'm very sure that none of the so-called "descendants" ever went to that site to do ceremonies or protocols to honor their "ancestors." In fact, I doubt that the protesters even now would be able to tell the names of who is buried there, or anything about what those dead people did during their lifetimes.

Just 5 days ago this newspaper published a big article about the burial mound on the grounds of the Honolulu Zoo, reporting that the "descendants" of the dead people relocated to that mound at huge public expense have been totally neglecting the burial mound, not cleaning trash there, apparently never going there, not caring about it at all. See
http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090111_Mon... ;
Honolulu Star-Bulletin, Sunday January 11, 2009

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

Since: Mar 08

United States

#5 Jan 16, 2009
Looks like the word m-o-u-n-d is censored by Star-Bulletin comment robot, who apparently thinks it's a cussword or sexual term. Also, the link to the SB Sunday article didn;t work, so I'm trying it again.

http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090111_Mon...
had a choice

Honolulu, HI

#6 Jan 16, 2009
"They had no choice"? Baloney, they made a choice to tresspass. They made further choices to link themselves together.
I guess being "hawaiian" means you are exempt from the laws that govern the rest of us.
Wierd

Honolulu, HI

#7 Jan 16, 2009
There needs to be some sort of respect for the dead.
The dead of any nation should be respected. To build on the remains of the dead is kind of wierd.
chris

Honolulu, HI

#8 Jan 16, 2009
Kimokeo wrote:
Has construction on this house stopped? I know the owner is a very unpopular guy, but he did jump through all the legal hoops and got his permit. It sounds to me that like him or not, he is caught between the State/County/Burial Council and the protest group and is gatting screwed. I hope he has a good lawyer.
...and a good bodyguard!
Andrew Walden

Barnesville, OH

#9 Jan 16, 2009
A two-time-convicted-felon, convicted drug dealer Ralph Palikapu Dedman worked to have the County Of Hawaii seize the kuleana plots of his Hawaiian neighbors in Punaluu, Kau and then transfer management of the kuleanas and an adjoining resort properety to KPI--a "preservation" management group he leads.
Hawaii County Councilman Bob Jacobson lost his Council seat in the Sept 20, 2008 election because he supported KPI's efforts with $20K in taxpayer dollars.
Ralph Dedman also has two misdemeanor convictions including a shoplifting conviction in 2004.
His group was involved in efforts to force demolition of a single family house in Ka`u which they also claimed was built upon a cemetary. Their efforts were rebuffed by the State LUC in 2007.
I want to thank the Star-Bulletin for including all of these pertinent facts in its article--not.

READ: http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/main/SearchRes...

http://www.hawaiireporter.com/list.aspx...
Kuleana

Wahiawa, HI

#10 Jan 16, 2009
The State archaeological team caused the PILIKIA causing and the HUIKAU. To make PONO a situation that is HEWA the WAHIPANA needs to be restored & protected!
Cultural Affiliation classification is all that is necessary.
Just because the identity of those burials are unknown to those that protested doesn't mean they didn't fulfill their KULEANA.
There are many here who are racist in their literary behavior.
Tend to your own kuleana.
It is the HEWA of your coercive society that turned kuleana on 'its head.'
HEWA 'oukou!
Haupia Girl

AOL

#11 Jan 16, 2009
Ain't no beeg ting!!!!!!!!
Conked in the Head

Kaneohe, HI

#12 Jan 16, 2009
Why do you have to be related to the dead in order to be outraged by the desecration of their burial site? When vandals desecrate cemeteries most decent people are outraged even though their relatives aren't buried there.
Cat Manapua

Saint George, UT

#13 Jan 16, 2009
I guess Italian dead people don't count.

I mean, the entire city of Rome is built on previous civilizations and bones, bones, bones.

Oh wait, that also applies to just about every major city in the world from Cairo to New York.
Hawaiian

Waipahu, HI

#15 Jan 16, 2009
Hey, Had A Choice. Did you read the same article I did? I didn't see any mention of them being Hawaiian, from a Hawaiian group or even having a Hawaiian name. Let's get something straight: Hawaiians don't break laws, people do! As a law-abiding Hawaiian, I don't condone those actions nor do I appreciate the generalization.
WestKauai

Honolulu, HI

#17 Jan 16, 2009
Oahu-based Perez admitted on the Kauai Radical Radio (KKCR) that he and his Hawaiian Sovereignty group had been invited by protest organizers to come to Kauai and participate. He said that they agreed, as it was a means to assert their legitimacy in the movement. What was not said was that these were unmarked burials long-abandoned and forgotten until recently discovered...
Kitty Litter

Kaneohe, HI

#18 Jan 16, 2009
Cat Manapua wrote:
I guess Italian dead people don't count.
I mean, the entire city of Rome is built on previous civilizations and bones, bones, bones.
Oh wait, that also applies to just about every major city in the world from Cairo to New York.
That's the point. The previous civilization has no value to the newcomer. Hence the desecration.

Since: Jan 09

Koloa, HI

#19 Jan 16, 2009
Does this mean that anyone can break laws because of an administrative failure? If the bank makes a mistake on my account, does this mean I can rob it?

The landowner is legally allowed to build on the property. Those people were trespassing...prosecute them.
Willie magnum 44

Wahiawa, HI

#20 Jan 16, 2009
lock em up and put em away. the liberal judges in action again. they are just as bad as the ones on Oahu.

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