Lawmakers push for a greener Hawaii

There are 20 comments on the The Honolulu Advertiser story from Jan 15, 2008, titled Lawmakers push for a greener Hawaii. In it, The Honolulu Advertiser reports that:

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concerned

Columbus, OH

#1 Jan 15, 2008
Make photovoltaic madatory on every roof!!
Newtowner

Honolulu, HI

#2 Jan 15, 2008
Hawaii has the ideal environment to create a oil free power grid. Build dams in some of the valleys in the Koolau and Waianae mountains. The upper dam to have the ability to generate hydro electric power. The lower dam to hold the water from the upper dam. Wind and solar generation to pump the water from the lower dam back up to the upper dam to create a continuous source of electrical power. The short coming with wind and solar are their intermittent generating capacity. A by product of the lakes created by the dams would be to replenish the aquifer. The Waianae and Koolau mountains have existing valleys that result from parallel lava flows. The only short coming is the political will to make it happen.
James

Honolulu, HI

#3 Jan 15, 2008
It's kind of funny to me that the Advertiser lead with the Republicans' press conference. Really, are those seven actually going to get anything done?

Wait, is it still seven? Do I hear six?

Since: Sep 07

United States

#4 Jan 15, 2008
lawmakers should stay at home and quit passing any more laws....people in hawaii are drowning in laws,regulations dreamed up by these self-important statist gov't. agents.....
Don

Kapolei, HI

#6 Jan 15, 2008
There are plenty of technolgies already developed and in use. For example, in Japan they have computer controlled backs of fiber optic cables that always face the sun. The optical fibers are then run into buildings to provide indoor lighting. It works rather well and would work very well in Hawaii. A plus is that because it is light from the sun it also facilitates indoor plant growth.

The 'powers-that-be' are just too busy backbiting and trying to control every little thing we-the-people do,(like outlawing plastic bags in stores. What are the tourists going to do? Pack canvas bags to bring them to Hawaii so they can get their groceries?)

Our legislators are far too interested in going on junkets around the world to ride trains to justify cramming a useless, several billion dollar rail system down our throats.

Common sense does not prevail here.
OmomoME

Kapaa, HI

#7 Jan 15, 2008
James wrote:
It's kind of funny to me that the Advertiser lead with the Republicans' press conference. Really, are those seven actually going to get anything done?
Wait, is it still seven? Do I hear six?
OUCH! ;-)
dickiebird

AOL

#8 Jan 15, 2008
The picture Isee is a bull eating grees in a pasture and the outcome is greenist puddle behind the bull. In otherwords to much posstering and not enough reality or productivity by the possters.
Cliff Slater

Kailua Kona, HI

#9 Jan 15, 2008
Does anyone else find it a little strange that our legislators are going to pass coercive 'green' legislation so that we can save all the money described in this article. Normally one does not have to coerce people in order to get them to save money.
protectkaiwi

Koloa, HI

#10 Jan 16, 2008
Want a Greener Hawaii? Stop giving permits to speculators to develop on ag and conservation land. It's that simple!!!

Turtle Bay,Koa Ridge-Mililani,Paiko Ridge-Kuliouou,Ka Iwi Coastline,Kahuku ag land. Why can't Planning and Permitting Director Henry Eng say NO MORE?
Publius808

Lihue, HI

#11 Jan 16, 2008
"Sen. Russell Kokubun ... said he's intrigued by a bill that would allow certain kinds of photovoltaic energy to be developed on less productive agricultural land."

Why is it that law makers are allowing everything from windmills to photovoltaic machines on agricultural land, but not allowing residential homes to be built for Hawaii's citizens? Just about 50 percent of land in the State is designated for Agriculture. Why not free some of that up for residential units!!!
Dman

Koloa, HI

#12 Jan 16, 2008
The fact that there is NO law for all new homes to have a solar panel on there roof for at least hot water, is incredible. The sun shines almost everyday in Hawaii. Lets put Hawaii at the front of solar power, WAKE up so called elected officals...

“in all things be pono, aloha”

Since: Aug 07

moloka'I, hawaii

#13 Jan 16, 2008
incentives go a long way. in the last two years alternative fuels and solar/wind power has come a long way in their new development. much of it is being developed in europe. example: the older solar panels use a mere 20% of the sunlight while the new, thinner ones use 80% and should make this more affordable for any home owner.
ok, there is an incentive of getting a part of the money back which i would have to spend on a solar or wind system for my home, and there is also a tax incentive. the problem is to come up with that 30 to 60 thousand first to have this done. if the incentive was given by the government to the contractor upon building the unit, then it would be easier to raise the other half or two thirds of the expense, and more householders would be able to install one. our electric bill just came and i just about hit the floor. we have solar hot water but the weather was rainy and cloudy for weeks, and the electric backup came on alot.
our garbage dumps could create alot of electricity from the methane generated naturally.
there are newer, shorter, not so unsightly or noisy wind generators coming on the market, some of these still in the experimental stages. for lighting, i am reading that the future of home lighting will be LEDs. we are not quite there yet.
electric cars are now much faster than the ones they had 3 years ago which went 25 miles an hour, and they now got a sleek and good look to them.
what is needed now is education, information, and incentives that the average home owner can afford. only by the realization of this can we know that the whole political talk is not just talk, but action.
as for alternative energy, we have arrived, it's here, and it's exciting!
Hoppergirl89

United States

#14 Jan 31, 2008
I totally agree! This law should be passed!
alice

Honolulu, HI

#15 Jan 31, 2008
Halemalu is right.
Canadian Border

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Jan 31, 2008
Is this a joke? It has to be!

“4 "Blondie"”

Since: Nov 07

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#17 Jan 31, 2008
Canadian Border wrote:
Is this a joke? It has to be!
It'd make more sense if you lived closer to the equator, isolated on an island.
Canadian Border

Saint Paul, MN

#18 Jan 31, 2008
HIIslander wrote:
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It'd make more sense if you lived closer to the equator, isolated on an island.
All I know is what I saw on "Hawaii Five Oh." And the rural locations looked like North Dakota. Not much pizzaz. No exotic plants. Just rocks, brown grass and weeds.

“4 "Blondie"”

Since: Nov 07

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#19 Jan 31, 2008
Canadian Border wrote:
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All I know is what I saw on "Hawaii Five Oh." And the rural locations looked like North Dakota. Not much pizzaz. No exotic plants. Just rocks, brown grass and weeds.
Pizzaz?

Depends on what your'e looking for.

Rocks, brown grass, and (how would you know) weeds. You were likely looking at a leeward post ranching landscape. Did you know that our state has 13 different climates?

Not much exotic plants, huh? Exotic means foreign to the place you are refering to, which is funny because you said you saw "weeds", which are exotic 99.9% of the time out here.

You know, your perception of what it is out here works out just fine. It just seriously sucks to be living in a barren place with no pizzaz.

To each his own.
alice

Honolulu, HI

#20 Jan 31, 2008
true
Canadian Border

Saint Paul, MN

#21 Jan 31, 2008
Well, you are certainly a well-spoken person!

And I LOVED "Hawaii Five Oh!" Alas! Jack Lord passed away not long ago.

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