'What do we want the future of Johns ...

'What do we want the future of Johns Island to be?'

There are 100 comments on the The Post and Courier story from Aug 16, 2006, titled 'What do we want the future of Johns Island to be?'. In it, The Post and Courier reports that:

About two dozen residents gave up part of their Tuesday evening to lay plans to fight an interstate extension many fear will ruin their island.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Post and Courier.

Thomas Legare

AOL

#21 Jan 25, 2007
Bill wrote:
Tom,
Both my wife and I are in agreement that it appears a gross misuse of tax money to spend $420 million on the expansion of the 526. We are also concerned about the possible widening of either Main Rd. below Maybank to Kiawah or River Rd.
Do you or someone visiting this site have any idea what the plans are for these roads especially as it pertains to the Grand Oaks.
Bill,
Johns Island
At this time I do not know of any plans to widen the roads, but with the SCDOT involved who knows what might happen. One of the things that we want to see accomplished is to get Chas. County Council to fund a study to see what the best way to improve roads on JI and the surrounding areas(Sav. highway and Main,17 and 162,17 and Beees Ferry, and James Is)without having to bulldoze and pave everything like the Dot typacally does.
Emily

Easley, SC

#22 Jan 29, 2007
Bill wrote:
Tom,
Both my wife and I are in agreement that it appears a gross misuse of tax money to spend $420 million on the expansion of the 526. We are also concerned about the possible widening of either Main Rd. below Maybank to Kiawah or River Rd.
Do you or someone visiting this site have any idea what the plans are for these roads especially as it pertains to the Grand Oaks.
Bill,
Johns Island
Bill- although the plans for these roads aren't set in stone, if they are widened, the Oaks will be preserved at all costs. If the roads are widened, there are a lot of people on Johns Island calling for "Context sensitive design," meaning the roads would be designed in a way in keeping with Johns Island's character,(as much as that is possible when talking about road widening)!
Jarvis

Charleston, SC

#23 Feb 5, 2007
Thomas,
The story in the Post & Courier about the poor farmer, Thomas Legare, who was going to loose his farm to the big, bad developers pushing for I526 was quite heartwrenching. But wasnt it your family that sold the property that is now Anchorage Plantation on Wadmalaw and has several hundred lots
being developed with cars and SUV's that will clog up little 'ol Main Road? Full disclosure counts for all.
Jarvis, Johns Island.
chuch

Miami, FL

#24 Feb 7, 2007
Look I feel for Johns Island and will sign your petition, Some palces need to stay rural and farmland and Horse pastures ect.... However, I live in West Ashley, I am about three minutes from 526 and fear the worst of this bridge. My area has seen dramatic property value growth over the last few years allowing people to improve their homes. I fear this bridge. All of a sudden a bridge will be running over my skyline and the noise of the construction will flat out turn Air Harbor, Battery Haig, Citidal Woods and Oakbrook along with other Subdivisions into a war zone. This construction will obviously hinder our lives for a substantial amount of time. Our homes will not be easy to sell and the construction headaches do not even need to be explained. I hope that you Johns Island Folk appreciate that you are not the only ones who will be affected by the state while they are trying to improve your infastructure others will be drastically affected also.
Thanks for the opportunity to place this post and thank you for getting some of my questions answered.
Tom Wise

Summerville, SC

#25 Feb 8, 2007
Hi all-

Thought I'd chime in here....as I am opposed to the Mark Clark coming onto Johns Island.

I have not studied all the traffic maps and projections, but I do know from personal experience that if improvements were made to the intersection at Lockwood and 17 downtown, traffic would decrease on the James Island connector and Riverland Dr.

I work downtown every day, and take Maybank, Folly
Rd., and the old Ashley Bridge into town from Johns Island...stop and go, but traffic flows pretty well. I would take the same route home in the afternoons if there wasn't such a bottleneck and stopped traffic at the intersection of Lockwood and 17.

I'm sure there are hundreds like me on Johns Island that work downtown who use the JI connector and Riverland shortcut to get to work and back every day. Improvements to existing roads and intersections...even ones that are great distances away from Johns Island...could greatly improve our traffic problems.(I'm sure the merchants at South Windermere, JI Shopping Center, and Riverland Terrace would appreciate seeing me again in the afternoons on my way home, and they should relize they will get the shaft if the Mark Clark is completed...)

My 2 cents...

Tom.
Billy Bob

AOL

#26 Feb 8, 2007
Thomas were you the one who fought the water line for several years, causing its delay, which has now doubled its cost to the citizens of Johns Island. I am sure they appreciate this.
I watched the citizens of James Island fight the James Island expressway for 20 years. Finally it was built and is anyone now saying we should not have built it? That 20 year delay drove its cost up considerably.
Thomas I also read about your problem of having to inherit 10 million dollars worth of land and having to pay estate taxes. Have you considered a conservation easment on this land or maybe you could donate part of it as a community park thus lessening your tax load.
You obviously do not have to worry about money and the thought of increasing the cost of community projects to other people does not bother you.
You are what some people call an activist with other peoples money and property but not your own.
Steve

AOL

#27 Feb 9, 2007
This is to respond to Billy Bob comments about Thomas legare, There's an old adage and that is everyone is entitled to their opinion, However they should also have their facts correct before they mischaractize someone in a public form, and open themselves up too a lawsuit for defamation . No Mr legare doesn't own the property in question ,Nor did he cause the cost of the waterline to go up and that misnomer was stated by a SJWC boardmember who resigned because of his unethical behavior and canard remarks which slanered Mr legare and two other boardmembers.

" Honesty is the first chapter of the book of facts "
Bubba

Charleston, SC

#28 Feb 9, 2007
I agree with Billy we should build that connector befor it cost 800 million to build.
Richard

United States

#29 Feb 10, 2007
Thomas Legare wrote:
<quoted text>Johns islands price are already getting so sky high that people that were born here like youself are having to sell and move now. It is not fair that people speculating on property values are driving prices up! Not having 526 come to Johns Island is not retarding it artificially, it is keeping our rural nature and lifestyle. Why would anybody want to retire someplace that has been destroyed and turned into anywhere USA?
Roads do not cause growth, Growth requires more and better roads. You want to live on Johns Island and enjoy your life style. Thats great! work to change zoning to restrict density to limit the number of homes. The Mark Clark extention will relieve us poor cousins West of the Ashley from the traffic on Hwy 17 created by all you "country folk" living on your precious Island. Think about someone other than yourself once in a while.
Mark-Wadmalaw Island

Mount Pleasant, SC

#30 Feb 11, 2007
Living on the islands is a respite from the "busy-ness" of downtown and other areas of Charleston, but we work and conduct business off island, as so many others. The increasing traffic on Johns Island in the morning is a clear indication that we need the I-526 expansion. It will only get worse without it. Growth will come with or without 526, and I fear that evacuation in the event of a hurricane will be absolutely inpossible. There are so many more residents here now than were here in 1999 when getting off the island proved to be a nightmare. We would have problems right now if no one else moved here. Think how long it takes just to get to Highway 17 on Main Road on any given day during normal traffic. Change can be difficult, but we have to accept the fact that we are growing and two lanes on and off the islands is not enough. It is suicide.
Caroline J

Huntsville, AL

#31 Feb 11, 2007
You know what? I think this whole thing is a bad idea. I live on James Island and that whole ugly Mark Clark overpass is going to go over my ENTIRE ISLAND. That's so stupid! People should stop moving in around here and start moving out; that would stop traffic problems.
Vince

United States

#33 Feb 11, 2007
Bubba wrote:
I agree with Billy we should build that connector befor it cost 800 million to build.
Maybe we ought to use some of this money to improve our schools and teach proper english.
Lee

United States

#32 Feb 11, 2007
Caroline J wrote:
You know what? I think this whole thing is a bad idea. I live on James Island and that whole ugly Mark Clark overpass is going to go over my ENTIRE ISLAND. That's so stupid! People should stop moving in around here and start moving out; that would stop traffic problems.
Ahem to that!
Allen

United States

#34 Feb 11, 2007
Richard wrote:
<quoted text>
Roads do not cause growth, Growth requires more and better roads. You want to live on Johns Island and enjoy your life style. Thats great! work to change zoning to restrict density to limit the number of homes. The Mark Clark extention will relieve us poor cousins West of the Ashley from the traffic on Hwy 17 created by all you "country folk" living on your precious Island. Think about someone other than yourself once in a while.
As someone who lives West of the Ashley I'm glad these Johns Island "country folk" are taking a stand against the Mark Clark and growth on "their" island. Some of us in WA and James Island should have done this 25 years ago and maybe we wouldn't have the mess of traffic that we have now that the MC is not going to solve!
Allen

United States

#35 Feb 11, 2007
Billy Bob wrote:
Thomas were you the one who fought the water line for several years, causing its delay, which has now doubled its cost to the citizens of Johns Island. I am sure they appreciate this.
I watched the citizens of James Island fight the James Island expressway for 20 years. Finally it was built and is anyone now saying we should not have built it? That 20 year delay drove its cost up considerably.
Thomas I also read about your problem of having to inherit 10 million dollars worth of land and having to pay estate taxes. Have you considered a conservation easment on this land or maybe you could donate part of it as a community park thus lessening your tax load.
You obviously do not have to worry about money and the thought of increasing the cost of community projects to other people does not bother you.
You are what some people call an activist with other peoples money and property but not your own.
Thank goodness there are activists like Thomas Legare and the people working to save special areas of the lowcountry like Johns Island.
Kevin

United States

#36 Feb 11, 2007
Cynthia wrote:
<quoted text>
Then PLEASE stay in MN for your retirement. We don't need you back here. Sorry, but that's how I feel about you.
You hit the nail on the head,why don't these people stay up north or go back>
Belinda

Mount Pleasant, SC

#37 Feb 11, 2007
Caroline J wrote:
You know what? I think this whole thing is a bad idea. I live on James Island and that whole ugly Mark Clark overpass is going to go over my ENTIRE ISLAND. That's so stupid! People should stop moving in around here and start moving out; that would stop traffic problems.
So when are you and Lee leaving?
eric

Charleston, SC

#38 Feb 12, 2007
I grew up downtown and left to get away from Joe Riley and his "progressive" ways. If anyone thinks that this project will improve traffic, they will be sorely disappointed. Both West Ashley and James Island have significant undeveloped land that upon development will surely further congest Hwy 17 and Folly Rd. Those problems will not be alleviated primarily because
I-526 is not a beltway with unimpeded thoroughfares.

The James Island connection with downtown is a mess every morning in its current state and modification for improvement will not occur due to the current and pending infrastructure that exist on the peninsula at MUSC and the VA hospitals. Additional vehicles to this section will only make it worse than it already is and traditional routes will continue to be utilized because of this design shortcoming.

I-526 will expedite access to and from Johns Island, but it will come at a significant cost.

If you do not believe that this is all about the creation of tax base and revenue for Joe Riley and the city of Charleston, then you haven't been around long enough. His record speaks for itself.
Emily

Easley, SC

#39 Feb 12, 2007
Billy Bob wrote:
Thomas were you the one who fought the water line for several years, causing its delay, which has now doubled its cost to the citizens of Johns Island. I am sure they appreciate this.
I watched the citizens of James Island fight the James Island expressway for 20 years. Finally it was built and is anyone now saying we should not have built it? That 20 year delay drove its cost up considerably.
Thomas I also read about your problem of having to inherit 10 million dollars worth of land and having to pay estate taxes. Have you considered a conservation easment on this land or maybe you could donate part of it as a community park thus lessening your tax load.
You obviously do not have to worry about money and the thought of increasing the cost of community projects to other people does not bother you.
You are what some people call an activist with other peoples money and property but not your own.
Dear Billy Bob- this is a blog for people to voice their concerns about traffic and Johns Island, not a podium for people to make personal attacks against others. Frankly, other people's finances are none of your business, so please refrain from making those kinds of comments on this blog. Lets make this a forum where people feel comfortable exchanging ideas, not a place for people to make unecessary comments about their friends and neighbors.
Emily

Easley, SC

#40 Feb 12, 2007
Richard wrote:
<quoted text>
Roads do not cause growth, Growth requires more and better roads. You want to live on Johns Island and enjoy your life style. Thats great! work to change zoning to restrict density to limit the number of homes. The Mark Clark extention will relieve us poor cousins West of the Ashley from the traffic on Hwy 17 created by all you "country folk" living on your precious Island. Think about someone other than yourself once in a while.
Richar- unfortunatley the Mark Clark will cause congestion to worsen West of the Ashley. When it comes to transportation, it is almost impossible to not think of West Ashley, Johns and James islands as interconnected. As far as roads not creating growth, that is simply untrue. Growth does follow infrastructure, and that has been proven in studies again and again.

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