Adoptive couple wants Cherokee girl brought to S.C. by feds

Aug 12, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: USA Today

The Charleston-area couple trying to adopt a Cherokee girl on Monday called on federal law enforcement to help them bring the child to South Carolina, saying they'll take the matter into their own hands if necessary.

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Sep 9, 2013
 
lol I love the "felony melanie". I truly hope thr OK Courts reverse the other courts rulings. I commend BROWN for fighting this.

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lol I love the "felony Melanie". I truly hope the OK Courts reverse the other courts rulings. I commend BROWN for fighting this.
Did you see the News yesterday? The United Nations has weighed in on the Veronica Brown case and they are asking for a present day best interests hearing for Veronica, which the State of South Carolina denied this child before ruling on a forced adoption.

http://www.nativenewsnetwork.com/un-special-r...

Veronica is currently facing judicially ordered removal from her Cherokee family and community. In June of this year the US Supreme Court ruled that certain protections of the Indian Child Welfare Act did not apply to proceedings in which a non-Cherokee couple sought to adopt Veronica, given the particular circumstances of the case. The high court, however, it did not make an ultimate determination of the disposition of the adoption proceedings.

Following the Supreme Court decision, a South Carolina state court awarded custody of Veronica to the non-Cherokee couple, but it did so without a determination of whether her transfer away from her Cherokee family would be in her best interests in light of her current situation and Cherokee heritage. Although Veronica lived with the non-Cherokee couple in South Carolina for the first two years of her life, she has now resided with her father and extended indigenous family in Cherokee territory in the state of Oklahoma for nearly two years.

South Carolina authorities have attempted to force Veronica's father to release custody of her, charging him with custodial interference for his refusal to do so. On 3 September 2013 the Oklahoma Supreme Court took up the case, granting a temporary stay of an enforcement order and allowing the father to keep Veronica pending further proceedings.
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Thanks again:) Even being in agreement I still want to thank you for your open eyes and your support.
While Ms M is certainly no angel, neither is Dr Capobianco and her DUI charges.
:)..... I just hope all the people involved do the right thing for this baby.... and let her remain with her father and people. Here is an interesting turn of events....

http://www.postbulletin.com/news/nation/un-of...

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:)..... I just hope all the people involved do the right thing for this baby.... and let her remain with her father and people. Here is an interesting turn of events....
http://www.postbulletin.com/news/nation/un-of...
Thanks for the link it was an interesting read indeed :)

Going deeper than the Veronica Brown case do you know there was a second infant girl removed from Oklahoma about 20 May 2013?

Her name is Deserai, her mother placed her in an adoption with yet another couple in South Carolina using the same "team" that brokered the Veronica case - a South Carolina Attorney and Adoption Agency (Owned by a husband/ wife team).

When it become public that her father did not know Deserai was taken the first pre-adoptive South Carolina couple had enough moral sense to return her although it looks like she was only returned to the Adoption Agency then re-placed with a second SC couple. There was no paperwork done for the Interstate Compact on the Placement of Children or the ICPC (that's a law for "everybody involved in adoption", no matter the baby's race).

The ICPC is a contract among member states and U.S. territories authorizing them to work together to ensure that children who are placed across state lines for foster care or adoption receive adequate protection and support services. The ICPC establishes procedures for the placement of children and fixes responsibility for agencies and individuals involved in placing children.

Never mind the definition of the ICPC, it was totally ignored. I wonder exactly how much money these agencies charge for these type services?

Money was the force behind Deserai's adoption. Money is/was the force behind the Veronica Brown case too. The "Adoption Facilitator's" faces may change but the game stays the same. What's the game one may ask?

The game is Money.

The question now is "cui bono?" To whose benefit is an adoption when if not for Money the child wouldn't be placed for adoption?

The one person NOT involved in this paid adoption was Deserai's father, his baby was born in Oklahoma (May 2013) and within 10 days she was in South Carolina and Adoption proceedings were already filed in SOUTH CAROLINA claiming ABANDONMENT BY THE FATHER IN OKLAHOMA (does anyone see a pattern here?)-- The pattern is deciet.

Today the Oklahoma county, Oklahoma court ruled that Deserai is to be returned to Oklahoma.

http://www.news9.com/story/23406889/court-rul...

I am waiting to see if Deserai's Best Interests are as important to Governors Haley and Fallin as Veronica Brown's lack of Best Interests have been.

Is Governor Haley sending Deserai home on the same airplane used to transport SC Deputies to Oklahoma to pick up Veronica and her father?

Is Governor Haley going to allow an Oklahoma Court's decision regarding Deserai's return to her family in Oklahoma?

Is our Society going to continue to turn their head and ignore this selling of children in 21st Century America?

All above is *my opinion* regarding the facts in these 2 separate yet closely related paid adoption cases.
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Sep 12, 2013
 
Charleston County has wasted almost $10,000 on this fiasco.

Good for the UN.
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Charleston County has wasted almost $10,000 on this fiasco.
Good for the UN.
REALLY?..... WOW!!
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Thanks for the link it was an interesting read indeed :)
Going deeper than the Veronica Brown case do you know there was a second infant girl removed from Oklahoma about 20 May 2013?
Her name is Deserai, her mother placed her in an adoption with yet another couple in South Carolina using the same "team" that brokered the Veronica case - a South Carolina Attorney and Adoption Agency (Owned by a husband/ wife team).
When it become public that her father did not know Deserai was taken the first pre-adoptive South Carolina couple had enough moral sense to return her although it looks like she was only returned to the Adoption Agency then re-placed with a second SC couple. There was no paperwork done for the Interstate Compact on the Placement of Children or the ICPC (that's a law for "everybody involved in adoption", no matter the baby's race).
The ICPC is a contract among member states and U.S. territories authorizing them to work together to ensure that children who are placed across state lines for foster care or adoption receive adequate protection and support services. The ICPC establishes procedures for the placement of children and fixes responsibility for agencies and individuals involved in placing children.
Never mind the definition of the ICPC, it was totally ignored. I wonder exactly how much money these agencies charge for these type services?
Money was the force behind Deserai's adoption. Money is/was the force behind the Veronica Brown case too. The "Adoption Facilitator's" faces may change but the game stays the same. What's the game one may ask?
The game is Money.
The question now is "cui bono?" To whose benefit is an adoption when if not for Money the child wouldn't be placed for adoption?
The one person NOT involved in this paid adoption was Deserai's father, his baby was born in Oklahoma (May 2013) and within 10 days she was in South Carolina and Adoption proceedings were already filed in SOUTH CAROLINA claiming ABANDONMENT BY THE FATHER IN OKLAHOMA (does anyone see a pattern here?)-- The pattern is deciet.
Today the Oklahoma county, Oklahoma court ruled that Deserai is to be returned to Oklahoma.
http://www.news9.com/story/23406889/court-rul...
I am waiting to see if Deserai's Best Interests are as important to Governors Haley and Fallin as Veronica Brown's lack of Best Interests have been.
Is Governor Haley sending Deserai home on the same airplane used to transport SC Deputies to Oklahoma to pick up Veronica and her father?
Is Governor Haley going to allow an Oklahoma Court's decision regarding Deserai's return to her family in Oklahoma?
Is our Society going to continue to turn their head and ignore this selling of children in 21st Century America?
All above is *my opinion* regarding the facts in these 2 separate yet closely related paid adoption cases.
WOW, perhaps the feds need to look at whats going on in S. Carolina....... crooks!!, they always took what they want in the past, however I truly hope that Brown keeps his child. WHY DO THESE CLOWNS NOT ADOPT A WHITE KID.

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WOW, perhaps the feds need to look at whats going on in S. Carolina....... crooks!!, they always took what they want in the past, however I truly hope that Brown keeps his child. WHY DO THESE CLOWNS NOT ADOPT A WHITE KID.
Great question!

I believe I mentioned earlier there's a second native child in SC, brought there via a brokered pay for adoption attorney.

That story is now getting outrageous and I wouldn't bother to post it on a thread about Veronica Brown if not for the fact it's the same SC attorney involved in both paid adoptions (read that someone is getting wealthy off of babies backs).

Charles Tripp, of the the Absentee Shawnee Tribe, said he believes the South Carolina-based adoption lawyer, Ray Godwin, who helped set up adoption cases involving both Veronica and Desaray, and other adoption lawyers should be investigated by the Department of Justice.

"Part of the reason for an investigation is the fact that I think we've got women, primarily, who are in bad situations financially, maybe emotionally, maybe societal issues - whether that's drug and alcohol issues or criminal issues - who are being selected, preyed upon, by these agencies," he said. "I think they prey upon people in dire straits."

http://www.ivpressonline.com/news/nation/okla...

The couple, Godwin acknowledged, did leave Oklahoma (WITH BABY DESERAI) & WITHOUT obtaining an interstate compact agreement (ICPC), which governs the placement of children from one state to another.

"But they only did so under dire circumstances," Godwin said in the statement. "Any statements by the birth father or the Absentee Shawnee Indian Tribe that the child was whisked out of Oklahoma a couple of days after birth are patently false." (HIS NOSE IS GROWING)

Godwin said the couple then went to family court in South Carolina and a temporary custody order was put in place. It's unclear if the adoptive couple plan to appeal the Oklahoma order, though Godwin did write that the couple are trying to obtain an interstate compact agreement.(HIS NOSE IS STILL GROWING).

I am disgusted. I pray average citizens of the Palmetto state set up and take notice of the horrible behavior of this person (aka lawyer).

I pray no other children are removed from their mother's breast at less than 3 days old and shipped over 1000 miles away from their blood family, all for the love of money on the part of some attorneys - money changing hands for a child is wrong.

IMHO + NEWSPAPER ACCOUNTS OF THE BABY TRAFFICKING
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Amazing, I truly hope you are correct. But you know what now?..... this has turned personal for that S.C. couple.... they simply want to see if they can win..... they could care less about BABY VERONICA. I don't understand why they simply don't adopt a baby from S.C.
I hope they lose this case
AMEN!!!
This is just a war of wills. There are many children in SC who need loving homes.
If-God forbid, the so-called "adoptive parents" prevail, that child will hate them for the rest of their lives.
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FIRST the LAND..... nowthe kids.... Ijust don't understand why a white couple don't want to adopt me :(
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Sorry about little Veronica HOW AMUSING and/or DISGUSTING. I agree with what you said earlier... this little girlwill never forget her geritage.... it's not like her father didn't fight for her.

She will grow up knowing how she was taken away from her heritage..... stay pasitive "LIL VERONICA"!!!!!
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Decipher your ebonics for me dumbass. What the f is "geritage" and "pasitive"?

Don't forget that you can't have your porch lights on the night of Halloween. They don't let child molesters do that and they will be checking on your dumbass.
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Sorry about little Veronica HOW AMUSING and/or DISGUSTING. I agree with what you said earlier... this little girlwill never forget her geritage.... it's not like her father didn't fight for her.
She will grow up knowing how she was taken away from her heritage..... stay pasitive "LIL VERONICA"!!!!!
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Because you are a dumbass racist and a child molester who has admitted to being addicted to child porn. And those are your positive qualities. Do I need to say more?
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FIRST the LAND..... nowthe kids.... Ijust don't understand why a white couple don't want to adopt me :(
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Melanie is a selfish tramp. the devil is in her. God will punish her soon. the little girl will be returned to her loving father & grandparents. shame on you Melanie then ask for money. you are sick. sick. in the head.
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Wow, it cost the taxpayers almost $5,000.00 and they also want to sue. What will be next

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