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BOE delays decision on whether to close 5 libraries - Hawaii News

There are 68 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jul 10, 2009, titled BOE delays decision on whether to close 5 libraries - Hawaii News. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Nancy Ashley, 79, said she would picket in protest if the state tries to save money by closing the Ewa Beach Public and School Library.

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Von

Aiea, HI

#1 Jul 10, 2009
It's really kind of sad because it's the little children again as always that are affected.

Now days there are many sources available where the kids can go on the internet though.

Yet I for one hate to read a book on the computer. Let's hope this economy will get better soon?

It's not good for anyone to stay glued to the computer screen all day long so I suppose if you can print out the information that might work in an emergency?
Grinchie

United States

#2 Jul 10, 2009
If the BOE attempts to shut down the Libraries, I will personally work to get those responsible fired.

If the BOE doesn't have troubles enough with the so called budget, they are asking for trouble by removing a very important resource from the community.

Thay would be very unwise to screw around with Public Libraries like Bush did after 9/11 and the Patriot Act.
arp

United States

#3 Jul 10, 2009
Lay off some people in the BOE to save money too.
Big John-Hawaii Kai

Kailua, HI

#4 Jul 10, 2009
arp wrote:
Lay off some people in the BOE to save money too.
Surely you're not suggesting laying off some of the bloated DOE! How cruel of you! The DOE needs all those Assistant Deputies, Assistant Administrators, Assistant to the Assistants. Maybe they could start with laying off the substitute custodians which cost the system $2.4 MILLION dollars in FY 08-09. Let the kids and teachers clean up their own mess, like in Japan. Then they could lay off the substitute clericals which cost $1.7 MILLION dollars in FY 08-09. Need a letter typed Mr/Ms Director, type it yourself. At least it's a start.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#5 Jul 10, 2009
One more thing to take away from local children... while they eat high on the hog.

As usual the local kids suffer.

“Live Love Laugh.. and Surf! :)”

Since: Aug 08

Kaimuki,Hilo,Ka'u, Kaupo

#6 Jul 10, 2009
arp wrote:
Lay off some people in the BOE to save money too.
I agree. Some who are administrators must GO. They are doing crappy things for and to local keiki.
Observer

United States

#7 Jul 10, 2009
The DOE and Library budgets are separate. Both budgets have been cut severely by the legislature and governor. The state library system has very little overhead so to make up the huge budget cut, libraries must be closed or perhaps someone will come up with alternatives to consider, such as reduced service hours at all libraries.
Keith Haugen

AOL

#8 Jul 10, 2009
Aloha:

Libraries are so closely tied to education -- of all ages -- that there must be other areas of real "waste" where budgets can be cut.

I'm all for saving taxpayers dollars, especially in these tough economic times, but why start with education.

Let's start by trimming the fat in the executive and management areas. Where there are directors and deputies, lay off a few. Where there are managers and assistant managers, lay off some. Where there are supervisors and assistant supervisors, lay off someone.

We see far too many cases of double staffing, a dozen bosses standing around watching the one worker. Let's start cutting at the top and maybe we can save some libraries and help the community.

Me ka pono,

Keith Haugen
Nu`uanu
Booknut

Honolulu, HI

#9 Jul 10, 2009
I understand the need to save money, but why axe these specific libraries, especially Hana? Richard Burns, the State Librarian, has got to know that the Board of Education isn't going to want to be known for axing public library service to the least-accessible community in the state. Burns used to be the Waimanalo branch manager a few years ago, so I KNOW that he understands the needs of small communities. I just can't see the Board voting to approve this plan.

And what about Ewa Beach? Five public schools within walking distance of the library, and all those students are going to be cut off from the state library network. Not a single urban Honolulu branch is on the list, in the areas where people have easy access to multiple branches.

There has to be some kind of strategy going on here. Maybe the plan is to put out the worst budget plan first, the one sure to get the public riled up, so that the next one looks good by comparison? Who knows.
alice

Kahului, HI

#10 Jul 10, 2009
Keith makes a decent point. But in 2 years or less, all lbiraries here will need to close as the recession deepens. Truth is, there is no recovery in sight for hawaii adn far deeper cuts are coming.
Honorably Discharged

AOL

#11 Jul 10, 2009
Cutting out some of the duplication among top management in our state government is a great idea. Maybe we should start at the top. Why do we have a lieutenant governor? Some more advanced states have done away with that useless position and replaced it with a secretary of state.
Perhaps we could eliminate the LG and the huge staff in that office, and replace the entire function with the secretary who does most of the work anyway.
alice

Kahului, HI

#12 Jul 10, 2009
Hawaii will need much deeper cuts next year hon. It is time someone got honest about the situation here.
George

Honolulu, HI

#13 Jul 10, 2009
Libraries should adopt more technology much like the NetFlix model. Reserve books via computer and send books by mail from one central library instead of having multiple branches. Save on building maintenance, real estate taxes, employees, etc.
alice

Kahului, HI

#14 Jul 10, 2009
Libraries have been ont he decline in terms of use for years. They are obsolete as currently constructed.

“Hawai'i loa kulike 'oukou.”

Since: Feb 09

London, Na mokupuni Beretannia

#15 Jul 10, 2009
-There is a wonderful book by Julie Rugg & Lynda Murphy titled: "A book addict's treasury." It is an Aladdins cave of quotes about books and recommendable for all bibliophiles. On the cover is a quote by Groucho Marx: "Outside a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside a dog, it's too dark to read." When respectable senior citizens like Nancy Ashley are threatening to picket it is time to sit up and take notice. The library is a resource for students, keiki, researchers, and hungry minds. Hana in particular needs such a beneficial outlet for a community notice board if nothing else. As Confucius said all those centuries ago: "A book is a garden in the pocket." Hands off the libraries please and mahalo to the great library staff island wide for their exemplary courtesy to the public over the years.

Since: Feb 08

Kaneohe, Hawaii

#16 Jul 10, 2009
Booknut wrote:
I understand the need to save money, but why axe these specific libraries, especially Hana? Richard Burns, the State Librarian, has got to know that the Board of Education isn't going to want to be known for axing public library service to the least-accessible community in the state. Burns used to be the Waimanalo branch manager a few years ago, so I KNOW that he understands the needs of small communities. I just can't see the Board voting to approve this plan.
And what about Ewa Beach? Five public schools within walking distance of the library, and all those students are going to be cut off from the state library network. Not a single urban Honolulu branch is on the list, in the areas where people have easy access to multiple branches.
There has to be some kind of strategy going on here. Maybe the plan is to put out the worst budget plan first, the one sure to get the public riled up, so that the next one looks good by comparison? Who knows.
I totally agree. I go to the McCully library but can easily go to Kaimuki, Manoa, Liliha or the main branch instead as all are within a two mile radius.

They might have chosen these libraries because they have fewer people using them. But the problem is that it is a greater burden for these people to go elsewhere (driven out to Hana lately?) than it is for someone who uses a library such as the one in McCully.

I understand the need to cut back but do so where the service impact is the least. I agree that they probably chose these libraries to get people mad. It is the same when they cut back on police and fire personnel in the City budget. Hit the most needed first then people will acquiesce and agree to higher taxes. It's been done many times before and it usually works.
tax payer

Honolulu, HI

#17 Jul 10, 2009
Honorably Discharged wrote:
Cutting out some of the duplication among top management in our state government is a great idea. Maybe we should start at the top. Why do we have a lieutenant governor? Some more advanced states have done away with that useless position and replaced it with a secretary of state.
Perhaps we could eliminate the LG and the huge staff in that office, and replace the entire function with the secretary who does most of the work anyway.
Excellent Point- I always wondered the same when our lg is going around doing spots for veggies and using the stairs all the while trailed by a Cadillac Escalade and taxpayer payed bodyguard. Nothing personal Duke you are a nice guy but I just dont like paying for it.
close hta

Honolulu, HI

#18 Jul 10, 2009
traditionally our government has operated with the idea of keeping our keiki as dumb as possible while the developers ruin everything and the politicians get a cut of the action.
close hta

Honolulu, HI

#19 Jul 10, 2009
Start by closing HTA where MILLIONS are siphoned to marketing execs and phony campaigns or studies. Very little of that money actually helps our local people.
TaxPayer

Honolulu, HI

#20 Jul 10, 2009
I think it is a good decision. The new Kapolei library is nearby. The closing libraries can start teaching patrons about using the online version of books and resources. If they have the qualifications...it is time to put degree conferred Library Science & Technology graduates in the librarian jobs. Time to retire the "grandfathered-in" librarians.

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