He Pouhana Make'e Ali'i - Hawaii Edit...

He Pouhana Make'e Ali'i - Hawaii Editorials

There are 12 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from May 30, 2009, titled He Pouhana Make'e Ali'i - Hawaii Editorials. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Synopsis: Curtis Iaukea, crown lands commissioner in the kingdom, wrote about the creation of the so-called "Ceded Lands." His great-great-granddaughter, Syndey Iaukea, Ph.D., researches his writings.

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“Hawai'i loa kulike 'oukou.”

Since: Feb 09

London, Na mokupuni Beretannia

#1 May 30, 2009
-E pili ana ka 'aina a me na mea Hawai'i ua pono anei keia hana, a'ole paha? I keia manawa i Ko Hawai'i Pae 'Aina nui na apiki. Nana i ke kumu 'olelo ka po'e no'eau i ka wa kahiko: "Mohala i ka wai ka maka o ka pua."

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

Since: Mar 08

Kihei, HI

#2 May 30, 2009
There's a wonderful book everyone should read.

Curtis Piehu Iaukea and [his daughter] Lorna Kahilipuaokalani Iaukea Watson,
By Royal Command (Honolulu: Hui Hanai [an auxiliary of the Queen Lili'uokalani Children's Center], 1988.
Hawai'i Public Library call # H B Iaukea

This book is an autobiography of Colonel Curtis Pi'ehu 'Iaukea based on his diary notes and official documents, as assembled and interpreted by his daughter Lorna, and edited by Niklaus Schweitzer [a Hawaiian sovereignty independence activist who has no native ancestry, is a long-term resident of Hawai'i, and is honorary consul in Hawai'i for Switzerland and honorary member of the Royal Order of Kamehameha I].

Mr.'Iaukea served in the inner circle of every Hawai'i head of state from Kamehameha IV through Sanford Dole, personally witnessed at close quarters the most important personal and political events of Hawai'i's leaders, and served as a Hawaiian diplomat in the United States, Europe, and Japan. The book also includes some important historical documents. Mr.'Iaukea makes fascinating observations about the corruption, infighting, and political instability of the Kalakaua and Lili'uokalani regimes; and provides an insider's look at the death of Kalakaua, the ascent of Lili'uokalani, and the overthrow of the monarchy. It is interesting to observe how Mr.'Iaukea himself gradually comes to support the political efforts of Sanford B. Dole and to work in his administration during the Republic and Territory periods.

I guess now the great-great-granddaughter, Syndey Iaukea, feels a need to do some historical revisionism to portray Curtis Iaukea in a light more favorable to today's sovereignty zealots. I wonder whether Syndey will twist the truth as mightily as she has twisted the spelling of her name, and whether she will include Curtis's writings from the period when he loyally served President Sanford B. Dole of the Republic of Hawaii.

Iaukea did what outstanding civil servants always do -- he served whatever government was in charge of his nation. The government of the Hawaiian nation changed from Kingdom to Republic, and Iaukea continued to do his job in service to his nation; just as today there are high-level civil servants who served under both President Bush and President Obama.
Hawaiian Warrior

San Diego, CA

#3 May 30, 2009
More distorted vomit and diarrhea coming from this racist white Ken Conklin and his degenerate rubber stamp barbarians! These are only parasites that exists at the expense of others.

“Hawai'i loa kulike 'oukou.”

Since: Feb 09

London, Na mokupuni Beretannia

#4 May 30, 2009
There's a wonderful new book everyone should read. It is called: "Hawaii, The Fake State, a nation in captivity." By Aran Alton Ardaiz. The editorial review describes this brand new 2009 book as an expose of the: "deceptive and fraudulent claim over a foreign, sovereign, and neutral nation, actual evidence of misleading legal documents of false claims for a Statehood in the American Union of States that does not lawfully exist and that can never exist." You can check details about it by clicking here: HawaiiFakeState.Com From Kaua'i to the Big island everyone is talking about the new book and website, be in the know: HawaiiFakeState.Com The truth is out. it is immovable and will not be corrupted.
elijahhawaii

Easley, SC

#5 May 30, 2009
Ken Conklin wrote:
blah blah blah
been there, ignored that

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

Since: Mar 08

United States

#6 May 30, 2009
Hawaiian Warrior wrote:
More distorted vomit and diarrhea coming from this racist white Ken Conklin and his degenerate rubber stamp barbarians! These are only parasites that exists at the expense of others.
Hey dummy, I called attention to a book published in 1988 by a branch of the Liliuokalani Children's Center. If you don't like that, too bad. It's your post which is vomit and diarrhea, not mine.

“Kokokahi -We are all one blood”

Since: Mar 08

United States

#7 May 30, 2009
Lord HawHaw wrote:
There's a wonderful new book everyone should read. It is called: "Hawaii, The Fake State, a nation in captivity." By Aran Alton Ardaiz. The editorial review describes this brand new 2009 book as an expose of the: "deceptive and fraudulent claim over a foreign, sovereign, and neutral nation, actual evidence of misleading legal documents of false claims for a Statehood in the American Union of States that does not lawfully exist and that can never exist." You can check details about it by clicking here: HawaiiFakeState.Com From Kaua'i to the Big island everyone is talking about the new book and website, be in the know: HawaiiFakeState.Com The truth is out. it is immovable and will not be corrupted.
HawHaw, you posted 2 comments to the essay about Iaukea, and neither of your comments has anything to do with Iaukea.
elijahhawaii

Easley, SC

#8 May 30, 2009
Ignore the racist bully.

“Hawai'i loa kulike 'oukou.”

Since: Feb 09

London, Na mokupuni Beretannia

#9 May 31, 2009
Ken Conklin wrote:
<quoted text>
HawHaw, you posted 2 comments to the essay about Iaukea, and neither of your comments has anything to do with Iaukea.
-Had you read Mary Kaena Pukui's book "Olele No'eau" you would understand the first comment is about land in Hawai'i, this important work on districts, peoples, land, and fisheries in Hawai'i is not mentioned in your limited book reviews on your Angelfire website apparently predominantly devoted to the former fugitives Dole and Thurston. It is good that a review of freemason and one-man diplomatic corps representative Curtis laukea's works are undertaken, like the Ku'e Petitions one never knows what one may uncover that has been concealed. We can find reviews of your own work Ken at: justiceforhawaiians.org where it appears you are a one-man band. Like the demented arithmetic man you add pilikia, subtract pleasure, divide attention, and multiply ignorance. For details check: kenkenconklin.blogspot.com You appear to be doing the work of three men: Curly, Larry, and Moe, but then we can only expect poison from standing water.[Haw-Haw].
Mind your own business

Ewa Beach, HI

#10 May 31, 2009
I am continuously amazed about how deep Mr. Conklin's hatred is for Native Hawaiians. It's obvious he doesn't understand the language, but sees a few words and names and launches into a tangent. This article refers to all the good work Curtis Iaukea did for the PEOPLE, not the treasonists who should have been put to death for their political crimes.

I don't understand what Mr. Conklin means about Sydney Iaukea twisting the spelling of her name (by not putting an okina in front of it??). Any Hawaiian language speaker can tell you okina's are optional when spelled in English (for example: Mary Kawena Pukui never signed her name Puku'i although it belongs there and is heard when the name is spoken properly).

This forum is for discourse on the article that was written, not to be used as a platform for personal vendettas. BTW, a book written by a daughter constitutes a BIOGRAPHY, not an autobiography. Even daughters can disagree with their fathers and twist the facts to suit a certain viewpoint.

Someone please provide psychological help for Mr. Conklin's debilitating mental illness.
elijahhawaii

Easley, SC

#11 May 31, 2009
Ken the Kook Conklin is the contemporary Margaret Mead for Hawaiian Socioculturism.... just an outsider who dabbles in a some marginal attempts at education, and then takes himself to be the expert on a people to whom he does not even belong.

Just ignore the racist.
John Kamaka

San Diego, CA

#12 May 31, 2009
Mind your own business wrote:
I am continuously amazed about how deep Mr. Conklin's hatred is for Native Hawaiians. It's obvious he doesn't understand the language, but sees a few words and names and launches into a tangent. This article refers to all the good work Curtis Iaukea did for the PEOPLE, not the treasonists who should have been put to death for their political crimes.
I don't understand what Mr. Conklin means about Sydney Iaukea twisting the spelling of her name (by not putting an okina in front of it??). Any Hawaiian language speaker can tell you okina's are optional when spelled in English (for example: Mary Kawena Pukui never signed her name Puku'i although it belongs there and is heard when the name is spoken properly).
This forum is for discourse on the article that was written, not to be used as a platform for personal vendettas. BTW, a book written by a daughter constitutes a BIOGRAPHY, not an autobiography. Even daughters can disagree with their fathers and twist the facts to suit a certain viewpoint.
Someone please provide psychological help for Mr. Conklin's debilitating mental illness.
Great posting....often at times, those responsible for violating other humans have no or little control over their egotistic delusions that distort the true facts about what their ancestors did and try to distort history to "justify" their continued oppression of others.

That is the primary negative factor one needs to overcome, they stupid EGO, before realizing that making amends is the best option for healing both oneself, their ancestor's negative "contributions" and hopefully be accepted by those (Hawaiians) as some historical events responsible for their demise. Both the oppressors and oppressed are NOT being afforded any redress if historical facts are distorted or denied.

Ken Conklin and those that support his racist oppressive views have to first overcome their narrow-minded views by controlling their self-appointed EGO, take a step back and view the world in the light of those his white oppressors have done to native people throughout this world, BEFORE even considering some delusional path to destructive ends.

I am part ha-ole and admit that my white ancestors have really done some awful things to native peoples, including Hawaiians, Indians, Japaneses, Chinese and other races including Whites, we need to step back and let them decide their own destinations and stop interfering. When will Ken Conklin come to that conclusion?.....that is his choice, to continue the oppression or to find some solution....judging from his posts....he will past on this life without accomplishing much dignity for himself!

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