disability vs. welfare

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James

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#21
Nov 16, 2007
 
AJB wrote:
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When I lived in Newport News, the cafeteria at City Hall had a blind cashier. City Hall is the building across the street from the Community Services Board with the 30 foot high letters "C," "S," and "B."
There was also a lawyer with cerebral palsy.
The blind cashier and the lawyer with cerebral palsy are heroes!!
"Mike" the cashier is still there and doing great. The attorney, forget his name, still comes into court every now and then. Thought you might like to know.
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Nov 16, 2007
 
Someone is very sick. They can get to the grocery store alone and without help. There are many different types of disabilities as you know. The Government Doctor must approve the disability every few years for the person to continue to receive the money. In this case, this person paid dearly into Social Security most of their life never planning to receive early Social Security. It just so happened, a tragic event took place which caused this at a time they were not paying into social security but they were working. The person owned a business which was losing money. Anyway, this person is suffering terribly. It is shameful to receive benefits like this but the problem is, you can't live off of the money. They don't want to be in this position. The point the person wants to make is: if you receive disability on regular early Social Security, having the 20 quarters in the past 10 years, you can go out and earn a large amount of money. This means you can be disabled and still get early Social Security at a full amount. However, if you don't have the full 20 quarters in the past 10 years, even if you have 18, you do not qualify for early regular Social Security where you can work, which still makes no sense to me either. The early regular Social Security is a lot of money to live on and you can live in the house with other people like normal people do. You can have things and not be penalized for being sick. However, if you don't qualify for that, you must live like a person who never tried, like a loser, and can't even live with anyone contributing to the household. This is ridiculous. If you do, the money is subtracted and you are punished for being sick. The other person in your household is then also punished because they would have to take care of you! You need the money more than regular Social Security Disability people. Am I getting through to anyone out there? Or is everyone still defensive?
AJB

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Nov 17, 2007
 
James wrote:
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"Mike" the cashier is still there and doing great. The attorney, forget his name, still comes into court every now and then. Thought you might like to know.
WOW, thank you so very much. You have given me a very special gift!
Buford

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Nov 17, 2007
 
Why didn't they have the 20 quarters? What is the disability?

I have a bad back; it is very painful sometimes and I can't sit long without numbness and pain. However I go to work every day at my desk job.
SICK WORLD wrote:
Someone is very sick. They can get to the grocery store alone and without help. There are many different types of disabilities as you know. The Government Doctor must approve the disability every few years for the person to continue to receive the money. In this case, this person paid dearly into Social Security most of their life never planning to receive early Social Security. It just so happened, a tragic event took place which caused this at a time they were not paying into social security but they were working. The person owned a business which was losing money. Anyway, this person is suffering terribly. It is shameful to receive benefits like this but the problem is, you can't live off of the money. They don't want to be in this position. The point the person wants to make is: if you receive disability on regular early Social Security, having the 20 quarters in the past 10 years, you can go out and earn a large amount of money. This means you can be disabled and still get early Social Security at a full amount. However, if you don't have the full 20 quarters in the past 10 years, even if you have 18, you do not qualify for early regular Social Security where you can work, which still makes no sense to me either. The early regular Social Security is a lot of money to live on and you can live in the house with other people like normal people do. You can have things and not be penalized for being sick. However, if you don't qualify for that, you must live like a person who never tried, like a loser, and can't even live with anyone contributing to the household. This is ridiculous. If you do, the money is subtracted and you are punished for being sick. The other person in your household is then also punished because they would have to take care of you! You need the money more than regular Social Security Disability people. Am I getting through to anyone out there? Or is everyone still defensive?
Dennis S

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#25
Nov 17, 2007
 
Lets face it. There are all kinds of situations and all kinds of people. Some are truly trying to cope, others are scamming the system. I have also seen apparently able-bodied people in big cars, park in the handicapped spaces, walk into the store, and pay with government checks/vouchers. I used to think they were all lazy scammers. But I now know that there are legitimate afflictions that can prevent a person from working successfully, but still let them drive. So, I am slower to judge appearances. But I still believe that there are plenty of scammers, too.
Final Solution

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Nov 17, 2007
 
The difference between disabled and lazy seems to becoming a very thin line. If those people who work for Egelston services can work, there is no reason for someone who claims to not be able to work due to a mental issue like deppression or bipolar to have to get a job. LAZY Leeches! I have to hand it to the illegals, at least they work for a living. They deserve the benefits before these Leeches.
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#27
Nov 17, 2007
 
Sick people drive. Sick people can do many things. It depends on their sickness. They are not necessarily leeches because some have worked more years than most of you and made more money than most of you. Sometimes things just happen at odd times and when you least expect it. You could be inbetween jobs. There are a whole host of reasons why, and I say again, especially a woman would be unemployed temporarily. That's the catch22. Anyway, sometimes the medicine is so strong a person can't work. Sometimes it can cause physical illness after a while. Why don't you ask your family doctor if all illness if visible? What about cancer? Can you see all cancer? Can a cancer patient who has just been given a chemo shot drive? Yes, until they start getting very ill. Some people just don't want to face facts. I hope none of you ever have to deal with an illness yourself, a child, or a sibling. You could learn about all of this first hand.
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Nov 17, 2007
 
Final Solution wrote:
The difference between disabled and lazy seems to becoming a very thin line. If those people who work for Egelston services can work, there is no reason for someone who claims to not be able to work due to a mental issue like deppression or bipolar to have to get a job. LAZY Leeches! I have to hand it to the illegals, at least they work for a living. They deserve the benefits before these Leeches.
im bipolar and never missed a day of work
James

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Nov 17, 2007
 
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WOW, thank you so very much. You have given me a very special gift!
The gift here is that they are remembered and obviously cared about. These men with horrible disabilities can still go to work everyday and make a living. They are special, even more so because I am not paying for them to sit at home, even though Mike probably deserves it by now.
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Nov 18, 2007
 
James wrote:
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The gift here is that they are remembered and obviously cared about. These men with horrible disabilities can still go to work everyday and make a living. They are special, even more so because I am not paying for them to sit at home, even though Mike probably deserves it by now.
Yes.
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Nov 18, 2007
 
This person worked right up until the day the illness struck. They worked practically all of their life in very serious jobs. They decided to start a business of their own. Without going into too much detail because it would take a book, during the final quarters before the illness struck, 6, the business was losing money and the tax preparer showed a loss therefore not paying into social security. This was not a planned illness obviously. Since the person was not familiar with the ways of the "leeches", they had no idea what was about to happen in their financial world. I hope this sheds some light on the subject. This person is not a leech at all. A lot more happened to this person's life. The average person would not have been able to endure it, I promise. It happened all overnight.
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#32
Nov 18, 2007
 
Please understand Social Security is something everyone pays into during their life as they work.
Edan

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Nov 18, 2007
 
Forget trying to explain anything. Everyone knows what the deal is, until they are struck by a sudden illness and have no recourse, but disabilty and/or welfare. My little sister had to endure the sneers and sideways looks in the store when she pulled out her cardinal card. She had to apply for assistance because her husband left her and their 2 kids with her being pregnant with the third. His parting gift was to try and beat the kid out of her resulting in a stroke and a child born 2 months premature. She had to go on disability to feed and clothe her children. She moved in with me when she lost the house. Yes, she drives an acura, it's a 1998 model and it's paid for. She gets those stares because she is well dressed and her kids are neat? Hell, she does her own hair and most of the kids clothes are well maintained hand me downs or thrift store bargains. When I see the sneers, I want to put my fist through that sneering face. She has worked since she was 16, put herself through school and has to be looked down on from some yip-yop mouthbreather who has no idea what she has gone through? Not everyone is a cheat. All those who sit with their butts on their necks and judge others should spend 6 months in the "easy" life of someone on disability. May you all live an extremely interesting life.
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Why are you trying to put a guilt trip on someone who has had a misfortune in life? I personally don't feel like an illness which causes someone to collect early Social Security Income is welfare? Why do you? They have paid a lot of money into the system if they are almost at retirement age?
duhh

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Oct 5, 2012
 
So Glad wrote:
So Glad you found the caps lock key there SICK WORLD. Of course your posts would be more intelligent seeming if you used both upper and lower case, but, then again after reading the drivel you wrote, one can only wonder...
If you can't survive on welfare, ADC, food stamps, and other handouts by both government and charity organizations, then quit making excuses and find a job! Being disabled in no way disqualifies you from ever working again. There are many positions that don't require physical ability, but you'll have to make the effort to find one. Life is what you make it. You want misery, you'll stay in misery blaming everyone but yourself for your situation.
Ughh your an idiot when you legually disabled you can't work the government doesn't allow you to.

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#35
Oct 9, 2012
 
SICK WORLD wrote:
EVERYONE USING FOOD STAMPS AND GETTING CHECKS AT THE FIRST OF THE MONTH ARE NOT ON "WELFARE" AS YOU SEEM TO THINK. SOME PEOPLE ARE SICK AND DO NOT QUALIFY FOR REGULAR SOCIAL SECURITY EARLY BECAUSE THEY DO NOT HAVE THE 20 QUARTERS REQUIRED IN THE PAST IMMEDIATE 10 YEARS EVEN THOUGH THEY MAY HAVE WORKED MOST OF THEIR LIVES. THIS LAW ESPECIALLY IS A PENALITY FOR WOMEN WHO MAY BE HOME FOR SOME REASON. SICKNESS CAN OCCUR SUDDENLY WITHOUT ANY WARNING. ONCE THIS HAPPENS, YOU CAN ONLY OWN "$2000,00" WORTH OF MATERIALISTIC ITEMS AND YOU CANNOT RECEIVE ANY HELP AND MUST LIVE OFF OF, GET THIS,$623.00 A MONTH AND YOUR FOOD STAMP MONEY. I DON'T KNOW WHO CAME UP WITH THIS FIGURE BUT IT MUST BE SOMEONE WHO LIVES IN THE 1940 YEAR ATTITUDE. SO, THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE SOMEONE WITH A FOOD STAMP CARD, DO NOT THINK THEY ARE ON "WELFARE", WHATEVER THAT IS, THEY MIGHT BE VERY SICK. THINK AGAIN.
I can see the point you are trying to make, but it would be helpful if you would learn the difference between Disability Insurance Benefits and SSI. They are two different programs. Disability Insurance benefits are insurance. People pay premiums to be covered. SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is Federal welfare.
Bank

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#36
Oct 9, 2012
 
How can I get disability? I have trouble sleeping at nights and can get to work in the morning. How can I qualify and still work PT?

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