Is Peninsula Town Center a threat to ...

Is Peninsula Town Center a threat to City Center?

There are 53 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Dec 12, 2010, titled Is Peninsula Town Center a threat to City Center?. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

Or is it? At first glance, the two giant outdoor town centers on the Peninsula might seem like they could turn into a big-time rivalry, the town center equivalent of the Washington Redskins versus the Dallas Cowboys or Boston Celtics against the Los Angeles Lakers .

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Shop in Williamsburg

Hampton, VA

#22 Nov 18, 2011
Lee Hall wrote:
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Spot on on that last sentence. I refuse to go there. Hampton built the thugs a nicer place to hang out.
as long as they hang out in one spot they can be avoided. We avoided the Colesium Mall for years.

“The opposite of Progress ”

Since: Nov 08

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#23 Nov 18, 2011
Shop in Williamsburg wrote:
<quoted text>as long as they hang out in one spot they can be avoided. We avoided the Colesium Mall for years.
Same here. I do shop at the Prime Outlets. Safer.

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#24 Nov 18, 2011
Lee Hall wrote:
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Hampton seems to be falling apart. I remember them beating out every other city for looting during Isabel. A proud moment.
There was a time when I thought Hampton was the most livable city in Tidewater. That is no longer the case. It is being driven into the ground by an arrogant, inept, City government. Taxes are high and they go to fund the bloated salaries of the City's Administrative staff. In the meantime there are too few police on the streets and not enough firemen. The roads are a minefield.

Due to the arrogance and ineptness of the Hampton City government it is dying. I wouldn't invest here with Confederate money.

“The opposite of Progress ”

Since: Nov 08

is Congress

#25 Nov 21, 2011
Gammler wrote:
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There was a time when I thought Hampton was the most livable city in Tidewater. That is no longer the case. It is being driven into the ground by an arrogant, inept, City government. Taxes are high and they go to fund the bloated salaries of the City's Administrative staff. In the meantime there are too few police on the streets and not enough firemen. The roads are a minefield.
Due to the arrogance and ineptness of the Hampton City government it is dying. I wouldn't invest here with Confederate money.
It is a very sad situation in Hampton. Good ol' boy politics. People running the show who care more about themselves. The citizens are getting a very poor return on their votes and taxes.

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#26 Nov 21, 2011
Lee Hall wrote:
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It is a very sad situation in Hampton. Good ol' boy politics. People running the show who care more about themselves. The citizens are getting a very poor return on their votes and taxes.
I've been raising sand about it, but it's like talking to a wall. With two recent exceptions the Cabal that runs Hampton manage to elect the same clowns time and time again. The Hampton City government's Administrative staff doesn't exist to serve the citizenry or even administer unpleasant economic medicine. It exists to serve itself. For a six figure salary one would think we would get better service from them.

Helen Waite is my comptroller. If the Hampton City government wants me to invest here they can go to Helen Waite.

“The opposite of Progress ”

Since: Nov 08

is Congress

#27 Nov 22, 2011
Vote for someone committed to the well being of the city, someone with an honest reputation, someone who might have a good idea on how to do it, vote for None Of The Above.

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#28 Nov 22, 2011
Lee Hall wrote:
Vote for someone committed to the well being of the city, someone with an honest reputation, someone who might have a good idea on how to do it, vote for None Of The Above.
With one exception, the other six City Council members are committed to helping their friends loot the Treasury.

“The opposite of Progress ”

Since: Nov 08

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#29 Nov 23, 2011
Gammler wrote:
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With one exception, the other six City Council members are committed to helping their friends loot the Treasury.
It is a sad state of affairs when those elected to positions of public trust use that to enrich themselves.

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

San Diego, CA

#30 Nov 23, 2011
Lee Hall wrote:
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It is a sad state of affairs when those elected to positions of public trust use that to enrich themselves.
Even more amazing is how those that never worked in the private sector or ran a business somehow become millionaires.

“The opposite of Progress ”

Since: Nov 08

is Congress

#31 Nov 23, 2011
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Even more amazing is how those that never worked in the private sector or ran a business somehow become millionaires.
Amazing.
The hand basket 2 the PTC

Newport News, VA

#32 Dec 22, 2011
http://weblogs.dailypress.com/news/local/hamp...

And so it begins... Was the recession, sure, recessions, "Yeah! That's the ticket!" Lets put a spin on it. Loved it when it first opened and people were bragging "they" stole stores from the City Center, neatly ignoring what some store owners in the CC said, "We were offered a really good deal on rent at the PTC". Said person said they were happy were they were. A few jumped ship. I can't imagine any small franchise doing well in the PTC or the CC that can be found in most malls.

Now long do leases run on businesses to rent a store space, five years is not uncommon, how long are you locked into a franchise agreement?

“The opposite of Progress ”

Since: Nov 08

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#33 Dec 23, 2011
Hampton city government, Newport News city government. Same thing.

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#34 Dec 23, 2011
Somehow my post above ended up in the wrong thread.
Hampton

Newport News, VA

#35 Jan 16, 2012
I take it this is Hampton, Va? Are these the numbers?

http://emma.msrb.org/ER546746-ER423556-.pdf
Hampton

Newport News, VA

#36 Jan 17, 2012
I take it this is Hampton, Va? Are these the numbers?
Remember they have to bring in enough money via of taxes and that shopper's fee to pay of those 30 year 93 million bonds that the city took out to get this thing built. No, the PTC didn't pay for it all, an no that 0.005% shopper's fee isn't the only way the taxpayer is paying.

http://emma.msrb.org/ER546746-ER423556-.pdf
Double talk Hampton

Newport News, VA

#37 Sep 13, 2012
A threat to the other mall, more like a sink hole for tax payers, other businesses in Hampton and the shopper.

Well Hampton comes clean,well kind of,
www.hampton.gov/ivalue/pdf/budget_%20input_FY...

"Q: Why does the Peninsula Town Center charge an extra tax?
A: The reason that fee came into play was to pay for the infrastructure, the streets and the parking garage. You are not paying those debts with your tax dollars; we could have done it that way. Most localities do. Thatís how Newport News paid for City Center. Hampton City Council chose to do it another way. Itís a small fee -- if you spend $100, itís a nickel."
The missing rest of the story....
Those bonds were for about 96 million, a huge amount of taxes comes straight off this place to pay off that debt along with the shopper's fee. You need to ask the correct questions with a politicians. Check it out yourself.
http://www.hampton.gov/press_release/cda_deta...
emma.msrb.org/ER546746-ER423556-.pdf

Also parking meters, read their web site careful, some percent goes to charity after the PTC collects it. Question, why is the PTC collecting meter money off a public street?

Other interesting reading, problem it would seem with a forcing of a Company community standard onto public areas, if I am reading this right.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread....

Only thing missing for Hampton is Water Boarding.
Double talk Hampton

Newport News, VA

#38 Sep 13, 2012
opps, forgot this, glossy ad,
http://retailtrafficmag.com/news/developers_r...

enjoy that non payed for via of tax money mall.

Since: Mar 08

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#39 Sep 13, 2012
Double talk Hampton wrote:
A threat to the other mall, more like a sink hole for tax payers, other businesses in Hampton and the shopper.
Well Hampton comes clean,well kind of,
www.hampton.gov/ivalue/pdf/budget_%20input_FY...
"Q: Why does the Peninsula Town Center charge an extra tax?
A: The reason that fee came into play was to pay for the infrastructure, the streets and the parking garage. You are not paying those debts with your tax dollars; we could have done it that way. Most localities do. Thatís how Newport News paid for City Center. Hampton City Council chose to do it another way. Itís a small fee -- if you spend $100, itís a nickel."
The missing rest of the story....
Those bonds were for about 96 million, a huge amount of taxes comes straight off this place to pay off that debt along with the shopper's fee. You need to ask the correct questions with a politicians. Check it out yourself.
http://www.hampton.gov/press_release/cda_deta...
emma.msrb.org/ER546746-ER423556-.pdf
Also parking meters, read their web site careful, some percent goes to charity after the PTC collects it. Question, why is the PTC collecting meter money off a public street?
Other interesting reading, problem it would seem with a forcing of a Company community standard onto public areas, if I am reading this right.
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread....
Only thing missing for Hampton is Water Boarding.
For me the answer is very simple. I just don't shop there. Money talks and rhetoric walks.
Back at ya

Newport News, VA

#40 Sep 14, 2012
really wrote:
If I wanted to hang out with dogs coming up to me sniffing and pooping, I would visit a dog park. I'm thankful that Peninsula Town Center has a no dog policy.
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Now if they had a No Idiot policy to keep out the likes of you, it might be an enjoyable experience. Tip...a dog will only sniff and pee on ya if it considers you a subordinate bitch.
Back at ya

Newport News, VA

#41 Sep 14, 2012
Lee Hall wrote:
<quoted text>
Same here. I do shop at the Prime Outlets. Safer.
Lots of new outlets and plazas in Williamsburg now. We avoid the Peninsula Town Center at all costs. Parking meters and little gangsta wannabes hanging out on the corners restricting traffic.....You're right.....Outlets are Safer.

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