Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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GhostofRaygun

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The term "fascism" is a twentieth century term. However, the concept of fascism is as old as dictatorship. Fascism occurs when a dictator uses the concept of nationalism to command allegiance to himself, as opposed to using the concept of authority to command that allegiance.
When such people as Napoleon commanded that everyone who loved France must love him was instituting a fascist principle.
I'd like to read that executive order.
If the law stated money will be spent on stem cell research, then the president cannot issue an executive order that violates existing law.
If a law does not state specifically that money will be used for stem cell research, but within the agency that disburses the funds they fund stem cell research, then it is within the Constitutional authority of an executive order to restrict the general distribution of money.
That would have been very easy to rectify. An executive order cannot violate any law. So, all Congress needed to do was write a specific law funding stem cell research, and no executive order would have the authority to stop it.
That's the way it works in the government of the United States.
So, please reference the law that specifically funded stem cell research, and reference the executive order that violated that law.
Text from each would be helpful.
You are a hypocrite. Bush signed 291 EOs. Most were after 9/11 and most were about spying on the American public without court orders. Were you outraged back then??????????

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DBWriter wrote:
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The term "fascism" is a twentieth century term. However, the concept of fascism is as old as dictatorship. Fascism occurs when a dictator uses the concept of nationalism to command allegiance to himself, as opposed to using the concept of authority to command that allegiance.
When such people as Napoleon commanded that everyone who loved France must love him was instituting a fascist principle.
I'd like to read that executive order.
If the law stated money will be spent on stem cell research, then the president cannot issue an executive order that violates existing law.
If a law does not state specifically that money will be used for stem cell research, but within the agency that disburses the funds they fund stem cell research, then it is within the Constitutional authority of an executive order to restrict the general distribution of money.
That would have been very easy to rectify. An executive order cannot violate any law. So, all Congress needed to do was write a specific law funding stem cell research, and no executive order would have the authority to stop it.
That's the way it works in the government of the United States.
So, please reference the law that specifically funded stem cell research, and reference the executive order that violated that law.
Text from each would be helpful.
In 2006 the House and Senate passed a bill to fund embryonic stem cell research but not with the two-thirds majorities required to override a veto. Bush used his "fascist" power to impose HIS will. You look up the details.
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Welcome back.
Thanks, just for a couple more weeks and then I move on. Those cowards die daily and I can only imagine their pain after having their asses handed them "AGAIN".
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Thanks, just for a couple more weeks and then I move on. Those cowards die daily and I can only imagine their pain after having their asses handed them "AGAIN".
Drunken lily says to "gfy". LOL
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The seizure of more than 700 guns and the indictments of 34 people announced on Tuesday are further confirmation that Arizona has become an iron highway for weapons into Mexico, according to federal authorities.
Many legal purchases by straw buyers at Arizona gun stores are being financed and orchestrated by Mexico's Sinaloa cartel, federal officials said.
The cases announced Tuesday involved the purchases of many AK-47s,.50-caliber rifles and other semiautomatic weapons in single-day transactions at gun stores by straw buyers paid by the cartel, U.S. Attorney for Arizona Dennis Burke said.
"This is a huge problem in this state. It is a strange phenomenon," Burke said at a news conference at the Phoenix office of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms and Explosives. "Drug cartels go shopping for their war weapons here in Arizona."
At least 17 people were arrested Tuesday in five cases involving a joint crackdown by the ATF, Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, the Internal Revenue Service and the Phoenix Police Department.
Burke said the five cases have gutted an entire firearms organization in Arizona from top to bottom, from straw buyers to organizers to financers.
Charges include making false statements on federal firearms-purchase forms, conspiracy and possession of a firearm in furtherance of a drug-trafficking offense, according to the indictment.
"Straw buyers have as much blood on their hands ... as the ones who pull the trigger," said Bill Newell, special agent in charge of the Phoenix ATF.
All of those indicted are U.S. citizens or legal residents.
The indictments reveal the relative ease with which citizens who have not been convicted of a felony can amass an arsenal of weapons.
Read more: http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/2011/0...
red state. go figure.
Fast and Furious scandal: House panel recommends contempt vote on Eric Holder
By Sari Horwitz and Ed O’Keefe,June 20, 2012
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted 23 to 17 to recommend…A congressional committee voted Wednesday to recommend that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. be held in contempt after the Obama administration, citing executive privilege for the first time, refused to turn over documents pertaining to a botched gun-trafficking operation.

The party-line vote at a marathon session of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee intensified a feud between the Obama administration and Republican lawmakers and dealt an embarrassing blow to the nation’s highest-ranking law enforcement official.

House leaders said they will schedule a vote of the entire chamber on the matter next week unless the attorney general turns over certain documents on Operation Fast and Furious. If the full House votes to find Holder in contempt, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — who is employed by the Justice Department — will have to decide whether to criminally prosecute him.

HOW COME COME Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. WAS NOT ARRESTED?THATS RIGHT HE AND OBAMA ARE ABOVE THE LAW!!!YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
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Well, it's more of a hiss than a sigh, but whatcha gonna do; it's my nature ... so, how about these intractably stupid hillbillies; you reckon they're gonna kick up much dust when the rubber meets the road, or just do what they always do: beat the old comebucket for burning the tuna casserole again, then stomp out and shoot a couple of stray dogs?
Well, to my eye the whole scenario is kinda like DB in here. He's hanging onto the Constitution for all it's worth, blissfully unaware that it ain't worth the sheep it's printed on. For Christ's sake God didn't write it. Anyways, if I know anything I know this: when southerners fight it's generally a short process. They get angry, do whatever it is they think will alleviate it (beat the wife, whatever) and then it's pretty much of a bum's rush to get back to whatever "game" they were watchin'. They are not people known for their attention span. Nor are they people who look far into the future, witness Iraq.

Probably the simplest way to handle them in a crisis is to leave crates of beer and paper money scattered around the country and then give them hints every so often as to where they might be. Keep the hints pretty general - "it's over there" - or you risk them getting bored, but pretty much all you've got to do is print boxes of money all day and they'll never make the connection. After a while they'll each have a house or trailer full of money and will kill other family members who they suspect of trying to take it. Within a month or two half of them will be dead. These are NOT strategic thinkers. "Hiss" huh? I like that.

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<quoted text> Drunken lily says to "gfy". LOL
Looks like waxturd/goober and the kids are done watching Sunday morning cartoons. We'll have to wait until they take a nap to continue the adult conversation.
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<quoted text>Fast and Furious scandal: House panel recommends contempt vote on Eric Holder
By Sari Horwitz and Ed O’Keefe,June 20, 2012
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted 23 to 17 to recommend…A congressional committee voted Wednesday to recommend that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. be held in contempt after the Obama administration, citing executive privilege for the first time, refused to turn over documents pertaining to a botched gun-trafficking operation.
The party-line vote at a marathon session of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee intensified a feud between the Obama administration and Republican lawmakers and dealt an embarrassing blow to the nation’s highest-ranking law enforcement official.
House leaders said they will schedule a vote of the entire chamber on the matter next week unless the attorney general turns over certain documents on Operation Fast and Furious. If the full House votes to find Holder in contempt, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — who is employed by the Justice Department — will have to decide whether to criminally prosecute him.
HOW COME COME Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. WAS NOT ARRESTED?THATS RIGHT HE AND OBAMA ARE ABOVE THE LAW!!!YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
Waiting to arrest those behind the first gun walking gone bad named Operation Wide Receiver. You remember,, ATF, they lost guns in Mexico. You Repubs are the most hypocritical bastards on earth.
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he should have loaded it with minorities?
Susan Rice? Van Jones? Shirley Sherrod?
who all got a 'fair' shake from conservatives.
so where is Obama's choice? seems conservatives only want white folks in government. otherwise they throw a fit.
he's got to try and get out of this mess he is in.
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BLOOMING IDIOTS wrote:
<quoted text>Fast and Furious scandal: House panel recommends contempt vote on Eric Holder
By Sari Horwitz and Ed O’Keefe,June 20, 2012
The House Oversight and Government Reform Committee voted 23 to 17 to recommend…A congressional committee voted Wednesday to recommend that Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. be held in contempt after the Obama administration, citing executive privilege for the first time, refused to turn over documents pertaining to a botched gun-trafficking operation.
The party-line vote at a marathon session of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee intensified a feud between the Obama administration and Republican lawmakers and dealt an embarrassing blow to the nation’s highest-ranking law enforcement official.
House leaders said they will schedule a vote of the entire chamber on the matter next week unless the attorney general turns over certain documents on Operation Fast and Furious. If the full House votes to find Holder in contempt, the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia — who is employed by the Justice Department — will have to decide whether to criminally prosecute him.
HOW COME COME Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. WAS NOT ARRESTED?THATS RIGHT HE AND OBAMA ARE ABOVE THE LAW!!!YOU ARE SO FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!!!!!
full of it? did i present an opinion? like when House Republicans issue one? that come to nothing?

your reaction is the usual nutjob deal when presented with that that they didn't want to hear. and just as amusing as usual.
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<quoted text>he's got to try and get out of this mess he is in.
sure. shut down the House. if only an EO was possible....

that would fix most of it.
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Well, to my eye the whole scenario is kinda like DB in here. He's hanging onto the Constitution for all it's worth, blissfully unaware that it ain't worth the sheep it's printed on. For Christ's sake God didn't write it. Anyways, if I know anything I know this: when southerners fight it's generally a short process. They get angry, do whatever it is they think will alleviate it (beat the wife, whatever) and then it's pretty much of a bum's rush to get back to whatever "game" they were watchin'. They are not people known for their attention span. Nor are they people who look far into the future, witness Iraq.
Probably the simplest way to handle them in a crisis is to leave crates of beer and paper money scattered around the country and then give them hints every so often as to where they might be. Keep the hints pretty general - "it's over there" - or you risk them getting bored, but pretty much all you've got to do is print boxes of money all day and they'll never make the connection. After a while they'll each have a house or trailer full of money and will kill other family members who they suspect of trying to take it. Within a month or two half of them will be dead. These are NOT strategic thinkers. "Hiss" huh? I like that.
hanging on whilst ignoring who interprets the Constitution.

and what they have to say about assault weapons is not what he wants to hear.

kinda like what they had to say about abortion.
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Glenn Beck Attempts a Laughable Make Over as a Libertarian

It took me a few days to stop laughing.

Glenn Beck is rebranding himself as–get this–the alternative to “far-right, far-left” polarized debates on cable news, dominated by people “yelling at each-other.”

“We're not going to play in that crazy space as a network," he announced earnestly.

The irony meter just died. Hypocrisy and chutzpah had a child.

....Glenn Beck used his 15 minutes of fame to cast himself as King of the Wingnuts, eventually becoming too extreme for even Roger Ailes to put up with on FoxNews.

But Glenn Beck can read the tea leaves and the ratings. He can see that Sean Hannity’s viewers are tanking post-election. Rush Limbaugh’s audience is aging out of existence and advertisers are looking elsewhere. And so the man who once described himself as a “Rodeo Clown” decided it was time for a new disguise.

....In some ways, this new guise is clarifying because it definitively answers a lingering question about Beck–is he sincere in his beliefs or was his right-wing rhetoric just showmanship, part of a business plan to appeal to an agitated audience?

It was all just an opportunistic con job. And the dupes are the folks who bought into the shtick, carrying signs at Tea Party rallies that read “Glenn Beck is my hero.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01...

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Live in Detroit for a day. You will become racist.
you right, Blacks there are the worst Socially which is why the Detroit & surrounding area is considered the most racist city in the United States and the Book Detroit Divided even confirms it and explains why which the blacks have brought upon themselves there in Detroit which they have no desire to change socially & economically and rather be part of the entitlement society which is why I dont miss having to go work in the the Detroit on occassions.

Detroit Divided

https://www.russellsage.org/publications/detr...
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Looks like waxturd/goober and the kids are done watching Sunday morning cartoons. We'll have to wait until they take a nap to continue the adult conversation.
Well, I guess that eliminates you; now you can go to Rev. Wright's church and worship Obama without missing any information for the next 20 years.

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Don't know, don't care; it wasn't my day to watch him.
The Treasury.
See? Not so hard.
I believe your first answer. You don't care if Obama is just a cardboard cutout of a commercial to make it appear as if someone's actually president, when the truth is Obama isn't in charge of anything and doesn't have a clue what's happening in government. He's just a prop for dupes.

And, correct me if this is wrong, but the Treasury is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt and doesn't have any money.

So, the question remains:

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?

The Treasury can't generate money and is 16.5 trillion dollars in debt. You actually have to identify a source of money.

Where will the money come from to pay for Obama's government?
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hey judge it idiot. change it up once in while. your self gratification is showing.

uber-strong personality eh?

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sonicfilter wrote:
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sure. shut down the House. if only an EO was possible....
that would fix most of it.
Well, dufus, an executive order isn't possible as long as the Constitution defines our government. An executive order is limited solely to the Executive Branch of government.
However, Obama intends to install a fascist dictatorship where he can write his own laws to suit his whim.

How do you feel about that?
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White House Philosophy Stoked Mortgage Bonfire

Armando Falcon Jr. was preparing to take on a couple of giants.

A soft-spoken Texan, Mr. Falcon ran the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, a tiny government agency that oversaw Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, two pillars of the American housing industry. In February 2003, he was finishing a blockbuster report that warned the pillars could crumble.

Created by Congress, Fannie and Freddie — called G.S.E.’s, for government-sponsored entities — bought trillions of dollars’ worth of mortgages to hold or sell to investors as guaranteed securities. The companies were also Washington powerhouses, stuffing lawmakers’ campaign coffers and hiring bare-knuckled lobbyists.

Mr. Falcon’s report outlined a worst-case situation in which Fannie and Freddie could default on debt, setting off “contagious illiquidity in the market”— in other words, a financial meltdown. He also raised red flags about the companies’ soaring use of derivatives, the complex financial instruments that economic experts now blame for spreading the housing collapse.

Today, the White House cites that report — and its subsequent effort to better regulate Fannie and Freddie — as evidence that it foresaw the crisis and tried to avert it. Bush officials recently wrote up a talking points memo headlined “G.S.E.’s — We Told You So.”

But the back story is more complicated. To begin with, on the day Mr. Falcon issued his report, the White House tried to fire him.

At the time, Fannie and Freddie were allies in the president’s quest to drive up homeownership rates; Franklin D. Raines, then Fannie’s chief executive, has fond memories of visiting Mr. Bush in the Oval Office and flying aboard Air Force One to a housing event.“They loved us,” he said.

So when Mr. Falcon refused to deep-six his report, Mr. Raines took his complaints to top Treasury officials and the White House.“I’m going to do what I need to do to defend my company and my position,” Mr. Raines told Mr. Falcon.

Days later, as Mr. Falcon was in New York preparing to deliver a speech about his findings, his cellphone rang. It was the White House personnel office, he said, telling him he was about to be unemployed.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/21...
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Well, dufus, an executive order isn't possible as long as the Constitution defines our government. An executive order is limited solely to the Executive Branch of government.
However, Obama intends to install a fascist dictatorship where he can write his own laws to suit his whim.
How do you feel about that?
how do i feel about nutjobs spouting the same failed crap from 4 years ago?

i pretty much just get uncontrollable giggles. like most people.

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