Barack Obama, our next President

There are 20 comments on the Nov 5, 2008, Hampton Roads Daily Press story titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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Since: Feb 10

ny ny

#813438 Nov 29, 2012
OBAMA the GENIUS wrote:
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With the Republican unemployment rate: 8%?
Couldn't change the pres?
Love it! Obama beat the Republicans so good!
Just look at all the crazy on here everyday: Republicans in denial.
We got this! We will just tax carol right out of her girdle!!
LOL!
LOL!
LOL!
It's all Chris Christie's fault.........

A new Quinnipiac poll in New Jersey finds voters overwhelmingly favor Gov. Chris Christie (R) for re-election, 67% to 25%.
ra_con_teur

Oklahoma City, OK

#813439 Nov 29, 2012
sonicfilter wrote:
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no. i do math in my head. the Chinese way.
You do scientific notation without an aide?

Lots of digits to handle....
Jane Says

New York, NY

#813440 Nov 29, 2012
yepperz wrote:
Obama Victory Margin Grows
As the votes keep coming in, President Obama's national lead over Mitt Romney is now 50.9% to 47.4%.
First Read: "That's a bigger (and more decisive) margin that Bush's victory over John Kerry in 2004 (which was Bush 50.7% and Kerry 48.2%). What's more, the president's lead has grown to close to 3 points in Ohio, 4 points in Virginia and 6 points in Colorado. One doesn't win Colorado by six points without winning swing voters; there isn't a big-enough Democratic base to make that argument."
those percentages correlate to the number of Americans who watched Honey Boo Boo rather than the debates. Honey Boo Boo did endorse Obama, probably since they are both popular cultural icons.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/hone...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#813441 Nov 29, 2012
Rand Paul’s Sympathy for the (Rich) Devil

I haven’t written lately about fiscal-cliff negotiations, as, frankly, not much has happened in the last two weeks, other than a slow trickle of Republicans seeking daylight between themselves and Grover Norquist. For the most part, Congressional Democrats are digging in on entitlements, while Republicans are holding firm against increasing rates on anyone, including those making $250,000 or more a year.

On CNN last night, Sen. Rand Paul, who is among the few GOPers willing to accept cuts in military spending as part of a fiscal-cliff compromise, was admirably honest about why Republicans refuse to de-link tax rates for the wealthy from those for everyone else:

Once you separate them out, there’s not a lot of sympathy among the public for rich people. They say,‘Oh, let’s get those rich people.’ But the public often doesn’t realize … the top one-percent pay almost half of all the income tax.

To be fair, Paul is making a substantive argument: the rich already are “soaked” enough, and if Obama thought it was a bad idea to raise taxes in 2010, why does he think it’s a swell idea now? But his initial reasoning is more nakedly political: he’s admitting that a stand-alone vote on preserving the Bush tax rates for the wealthy would make Republicans look really, really bad.

Paul is right about this — and doubtless Obama knows it. The knife is in. And he’s beginning to twist it:

Right now, as we speak, Congress can pass a law that would prevent a tax hike on the first $250,000 of everybody’s income. Everybody’s. And that means that 98 percent of Americans and 97 percent of small businesses wouldn’t see their income taxes go up by a single dime.…

Even the wealthiest Americans would still get a tax cut on the first $250,000 of their income. So it’s not like folks who make more than $250,000 aren’t getting a tax break, too. They are getting a tax break on the first $250,000 just like everybody else. Families and small businesses would, therefore, be able to enjoy some peace of mind heading into Christmas and heading into the new year.

It’s far from clear whether Obama’s appetite for brinkmanship is big enough to go over the cliff. It seems to me he would prefer a second term that’s defined by steady economic growth and job creation as opposed to a self-inflicted double-dip recession. But to paraphrase the freshly reelected President Bush in 2004, Obama has leverage, and at least for now, he intends to wield it.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/rand-p...

Since: Feb 10

ny ny

#813444 Nov 29, 2012
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>those percentages correlate to the number of Americans who watched Honey Boo Boo rather than the debates. Honey Boo Boo did endorse Obama, probably since they are both popular cultural icons.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/19/hone...
Sure sourpuss, whatever you say. Why don't you go back to posting racist remarks under fake id's? It's more your style.

The vote count still isn't 100 percent final President Obama could have lost every state he won by less than 5.4 percentage points -- Florida, Ohio, and Virginia -- and he still would've won the electoral vote 272 to 266.

Obama hit 48% in every battleground state while Mitt Romney managed it in just two of them.

Keep going, you’re doing great!

“I know where you are,”

Since: Jun 08

Right here under my thumb

#813446 Nov 29, 2012
Sniveling is not a pre-existing condition.
Jane Says

New York, NY

#813449 Nov 29, 2012
Slim wrote:
<quoted text>You racist old man.
would you prefer a hypocrite old man, like Warren Buffet who now claims raising the taxes on the rich won't deter them from making investments?

Taxes matter -- to Buffett.

Harvard's Economic Department chairman, Greg Mankiw, writes that "Mr. Buffett never mentions doing anything to eliminate the tax-avoidance strategies that he uses most aggressively. In particular:

"1. His company, Berkshire Hathaway, never pays a dividend but instead retains all earnings. So the return on this investment is entirely in the form of capital gains. By not paying dividends, he saves his investors (including himself) from having to immediately pay income tax on this income.

"2. Mr. Buffett is a long-term investor, so he rarely sells and realizes a capital gain. His unrealized capital gains are untaxed.

"3. He is giving away much of his wealth to charity. He gets a deduction at the full market value of the stock he donates, most of which is unrealized (and therefore untaxed) capital gains.

"4. When he dies, his heirs will get a stepped-up basis. The income tax will never collect any revenue from the substantial unrealized capital gains he has been accumulating.

"To be sure, there are pros and cons of changing the provisions of the tax code of which Mr. Buffett takes advantage. Tax policy always involves difficult tradeoffs. But it seems odd to me that whenever Mr. Buffett talks about taxing the rich more, the 'loopholes' that he uses never seem to enter into the conversation."

Guess who else thinks Buffett should pay more in taxes: the IRS.

Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway has been fighting the IRS over the $1 billion in taxes the government claims it is owed, dating as far back as 2002. Last year, one of Berkshire Hathaway's companies, NetJets, sued the IRS, demanding that the feds return $642.7 million in already paid taxes. And this year, the IRS sued NetJets, claiming it is owed $366.3 million in unpaid taxes.

Meanwhile, scientists at the National Institutes of Health are working feverishly to develop a cure, vaccine or treatment for this disease -- that appears to afflict guilty/super-wealthy liberals -- known in medical circles as "Buffettitis." It's early, and one risks being premature. But NIH just may have produced a workable solution: "Mr. Buffett, whip out your checkbook, and cut the U.S. Treasury a check. Given the state of the economy, let's hope it doesn't bounce."

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#813451 Nov 29, 2012
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>would you prefer a hypocrite old man, like Warren Buffet who now claims raising the taxes on the rich won't deter them from making investments?
Taxes matter -- to Buffett.
Harvard's Economic Department chairman, Greg Mankiw, writes that "Mr. Buffett never mentions doing anything to eliminate the tax-avoidance strategies that he uses most aggressively. In particular:
"1. His company, Berkshire Hathaway, never pays a dividend but instead retains all earnings. So the return on this investment is entirely in the form of capital gains. By not paying dividends, he saves his investors (including himself) from having to immediately pay income tax on this income.
"2. Mr. Buffett is a long-term investor, so he rarely sells and realizes a capital gain. His unrealized capital gains are untaxed.
"3. He is giving away much of his wealth to charity. He gets a deduction at the full market value of the stock he donates, most of which is unrealized (and therefore untaxed) capital gains.
"4. When he dies, his heirs will get a stepped-up basis. The income tax will never collect any revenue from the substantial unrealized capital gains he has been accumulating.
"To be sure, there are pros and cons of changing the provisions of the tax code of which Mr. Buffett takes advantage. Tax policy always involves difficult tradeoffs. But it seems odd to me that whenever Mr. Buffett talks about taxing the rich more, the 'loopholes' that he uses never seem to enter into the conversation."
Guess who else thinks Buffett should pay more in taxes: the IRS.
Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway has been fighting the IRS over the $1 billion in taxes the government claims it is owed, dating as far back as 2002. Last year, one of Berkshire Hathaway's companies, NetJets, sued the IRS, demanding that the feds return $642.7 million in already paid taxes. And this year, the IRS sued NetJets, claiming it is owed $366.3 million in unpaid taxes.
Meanwhile, scientists at the National Institutes of Health are working feverishly to develop a cure, vaccine or treatment for this disease -- that appears to afflict guilty/super-wealthy liberals -- known in medical circles as "Buffettitis." It's early, and one risks being premature. But NIH just may have produced a workable solution: "Mr. Buffett, whip out your checkbook, and cut the U.S. Treasury a check. Given the state of the economy, let's hope it doesn't bounce."
Buffet could give a healthy rip what happens...
carol

Orlando, FL

#813452 Nov 29, 2012
Quick Draw McGraw wrote:
<quoted text>Obama makes King George the III look like a petty thief.
The wealth tax "may receive imputed rental income from multiple homes and major consumer durables such as automobiles, art collections or yachts, which the federal income tax misses altogether."

Sounds too much like Marx's first Manifesto plank: "Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose."

I'm just wondering how far this will go before some on the left see where this is really going.

Even the socialist-leaning French government isn't willing to go that far.
carol

Orlando, FL

#813453 Nov 29, 2012
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Better keep an eye on your 401*k)s and IRAs. Next they will federalize (confiscate) them to protect you from greedy Wall Street.
Morning Carol.
Hi flack. Things are getting a little too crazy.

How crazy is it going to have to get before those lying at the bottom of the tank come up for air?
TSM

El Paso, TX

#813455 Nov 29, 2012
If anyone believes Obama’s second term is going to be any different than is first must be Smoking!!

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#813456 Nov 29, 2012
Haven't said this in a while but with the debt ceiling about to be breached I think it's time.

$16.3 trillion? Chump change. The real debt of the US is close to $140 trillion! Now that is real money.$90 billion a year for the next ten years? That's like sending the power company a quarter on your power bill! When are you people going to wake the hell up? They are playing you for fools!
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#813459 Nov 29, 2012
yepperz wrote:
<quoted text>
It's all Chris Christie's fault.........
A new Quinnipiac poll in New Jersey finds voters overwhelmingly favor Gov. Chris Christie (R) for re-election, 67% to 25%.
LOL! Now, perhaps these other dunderheads may learn to be a human being?
I wasn't a big fan of his, that loudmouth rudeness kind of turns me off, but, I did admire his guts in defending his appointment of a Muslim judge. Shows he's not afraid to be real. Give credit where credit is due.
carol

Orlando, FL

#813460 Nov 29, 2012
Lily Boca Raton Fl wrote:
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Carol, you'd better dig up your treasure chest and bring it to the Cayman Isands
While I'm doing that, think about this.

In France, the net worth tax is called the "solidarity tax on wealth". In other countries, the tax is known as "Net Worth Tax" or just "Wealth Tax".

Some European countries have abandoned this kind of tax in the recent years: Austria, Denmark, Germany, Sweden, Spain, Finland, Iceland and Luxembourg. In Belgium and Great Britain, no tax of this type has ever existed.

The United States Constitution prohibits any "direct tax" on personal holdings.

Does that even matter to you anymore? The Constitution, I mean?
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#813462 Nov 29, 2012
MS HEMMINGS wrote:
Old white cons who've been married to the same cow for over 20 years seem to get all freaky deaky on the "naughty threads." For example, there's one where old guys try to jumpstart their flagging dongs by talking about how they like to bring their cows to black clubs, watch them grind against the enormous equipment of those they so deeply envy and wait around while the wife does them in the parking lot of a hot sheets place. Then they brag they get sloppy seconds after she tells them what they did. And that's just ONE example! They have no problem talking about this kind of stuff, but get all bent out of shape when you do some good fetus jokes on here. Sometimes they go on
Go figger!
Well, I'd like to hear it form the mouths of old cons why you are so filthy, filthy, filthy, yet so impotent unless you're humiliating your lovely wife. Personally, I think it's because you have an insatiable appetite for humiliation and black co-ck, but you only have the courage to use a surrogate?
I'm getting pretty close, I know, so don't bother to deny it. It's too bad you have a bod for business and a head for sin, but god works in mysterious ways, doesn't she?
I think it's because they hate their mothers.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#813463 Nov 29, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
Hi flack. Things are getting a little too crazy.
How crazy is it going to have to get before those lying at the bottom of the tank come up for air?
What is the saying?'The road to hell is paved with good intentions.' As I said yesterday.'We are past the tipping point. The only thing left to do is let it crash and burn and hope America, like the Phoenix, rises from the flames a stronger and better nation.'
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#813464 Nov 29, 2012
carol wrote:
<quoted text>
The wealth tax "may receive imputed rental income from multiple homes and major consumer durables such as automobiles, art collections or yachts, which the federal income tax misses altogether."
Sounds too much like Marx's first Manifesto plank: "Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose."
I'm just wondering how far this will go before some on the left see where this is really going.
Even the socialist-leaning French government isn't willing to go that far.
Uh oh, your rent's going up!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#813465 Nov 29, 2012
Now Even A Majority Of Republicans Think Tax Hikes Should Be Part Of A Deal

http://www.businessinsider.com/fiscal-cliff-p...

stupid conservative Marxists.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#813467 Nov 29, 2012
TSM wrote:
If anyone believes Obama’s second term is going to be any different than is first must be Smoking!!
I think it will be twice (at least) as bad.
Bigsmoke

Sheffield, UK

#813471 Nov 29, 2012
MS HEMMINGS wrote:
Of course, I meant "STICKY" threads -- sticky, sticky, sticky with old-man white man and woman juice. Stinks like t'aint ...
You like sticky one up your fat arse, you dirty old bastard.

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