Air Force couple drops suit involving...

Air Force couple drops suit involving day care center

There are 22 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Apr 25, 2008, titled Air Force couple drops suit involving day care center. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

An Air Force couple has dropped its lawsuit against the government for an injury they said their infant son suffered at Langley Air Force Base 's day care center in 2005.

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happygolucky

Hampton, VA

#1 Apr 26, 2008
Wow. I really wonder what happened . Maybe the injury didnt occur there but at home. Maybe it got so costly that they couldnt afford it. Staff Sgt and her husband and live in Yorktown.I am sure they have money.
Hope the injury was a simple mistake and glad child is ok.
Lil 757

Hampton, VA

#3 Apr 26, 2008
Or maybe it was a case of abuse or maybe just an accident.

But whay blame the daycare? Where there is smoke, there is fire.
David Williams

Naples, FL

#4 Apr 26, 2008
The reason they dropped the case is because they couldn't win it, plain and simple! Here's another case of someone trying to sue someone when there were no merits and no chance of winning. Now the daycare should counter sue for attorneys fees...
What

Hampton, VA

#5 Apr 28, 2008
David Williams wrote:
The reason they dropped the case is because they couldn't win it, plain and simple! Here's another case of someone trying to sue someone when there were no merits and no chance of winning. Now the daycare should counter sue for attorneys fees...
or maybe they were threatened. If the baby was really hurt at the daycare center, I would take them are every dime.
donbee

United States

#6 Apr 29, 2008
Sounds like a cover-up for me. I had a serious bak injury at a govmint installation and had to get an attorney after finding out the manager had not disclosed an ijury report for three months.
Denbigh2YC

Columbus, OH

#7 May 2, 2008
happygolucky wrote:
Wow. I really wonder what happened . Maybe the injury didnt occur there but at home. Maybe it got so costly that they couldnt afford it. Staff Sgt and her husband and live in Yorktown.I am sure they have money.
Hope the injury was a simple mistake and glad child is ok.
Yeah that big income of 2000 per month for E-5 is just smoking hot. Oh and those housing benefits, just driving by the housing (located in Yorktown)makes me want to re-up and do another 20 years. I almost forgot the deployments over-time pay. The money his wife makes is just spending money I'm sure. Now lets talk about the cost for the daycare he's paying (based on house hold income). If it were my kid hurt while being under thier care I'd go after them as well. Did you know there is a waiting list to be able to use that day care center? I would say it was dropped because the problem was corrected. Who knows? Please don't assume they have money because they live in YC. The average rent for a house or apartment is well above what they get for housing. Most choose YC because of the school district and pay dearly for living there. Personally it cost me over 200 more than basic housing allowances.

“I pity the fool !!”

Since: Jan 08

Milford, VA

#8 May 2, 2008
Denbigh2YC wrote:
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Yeah that big income of 2000 per month for E-5 is just smoking hot. Oh and those housing benefits, just driving by the housing (located in Yorktown)makes me want to re-up and do another 20 years. I almost forgot the deployments over-time pay. The money his wife makes is just spending money I'm sure. Now lets talk about the cost for the daycare he's paying (based on house hold income). If it were my kid hurt while being under thier care I'd go after them as well. Did you know there is a waiting list to be able to use that day care center? I would say it was dropped because the problem was corrected. Who knows? Please don't assume they have money because they live in YC. The average rent for a house or apartment is well above what they get for housing. Most choose YC because of the school district and pay dearly for living there. Personally it cost me over 200 more than basic housing allowances.
Agree with the majority of your points. They are probably at Bethel Manor (military housing for LAFB in York Co), hence they reside in York CO.

Minor point but Staff Sergeant is E-6, but still not huge money.
Denbigh2YC

Columbus, OH

#9 May 2, 2008
Think 1st,
A SSgt in the AF is E-5 TSgt.(Tech) is E-6, Retired E-6 myself. Loved every year in and enjoying being out now.

“I pity the fool !!”

Since: Jan 08

Hampton, VA

#10 May 2, 2008
Denbigh2YC wrote:
Think 1st,
A SSgt in the AF is E-5 TSgt.(Tech) is E-6, Retired E-6 myself. Loved every year in and enjoying being out now.
Ah, I guess it makes sense that they (the AF) would have to give a higher rank title to a lower grade, compared to the other real services: make up for the obvious feelings of inferiority. ;-)

Thanks for setting me straight with the info.
Denbigh2YC

Columbus, OH

#11 May 5, 2008
ROFLMAO,:)
Could be right there or it could be the guilty feeling of having the best of the best.
Could Not Win

United States

#12 May 5, 2008
Please don't assume they dropped the suit because of guilt. The military has UNLIMITED access to legal resources, while they have what they can afford to hire. If they cost the government big pay out dollars, you can bet their military career is down in the gutter. The government will do everything in their power to prove their case, including the possibility of neglect on the part of the parents, which the government does not have to prove, it will just imply the possibility and the pressure of a long deep investigated case will cause anyone to think long and hard about bringing a law suit against the government.
THINK....is it worth your career to fight the government? The fight was lost well before it was begun.
Denbigh2YC

Columbus, OH

#13 May 5, 2008
hmmm, the child care center is not ran by the Department of Defense, it is sponsored by the base it is located on, but the employees are not government minus one the director. most of the staffing is funded by non-appropiated funds just like the BX. As far as the members careers seeing how it was two active military members would not be impacted. It was/is the parents right to file a suite if no action was taken to correct the problem or find out how this happened. With out being a party to this determining the reason of it being dropped is impossible. most importantly would be ensuring the child is okay and no other child is hurt while under the centers care. As a former member of the 1st fighter wing I'm pretty sure no one was out to get them for doing the right thing while serving.
LOL you have never used base legal services. just kidding.

“I pity the fool !!”

Since: Jan 08

Milford, VA

#14 May 5, 2008
Denbigh2YC wrote:
ROFLMAO,:)
Could be right there or it could be the guilty feeling of having the best of the best.
I thought the "best of the best" were the Vermont State Troopers, the "Super Troopers"... them or those Navy SEALs (the kindergarteners of the SOCOM world)?

;-)
Could Not Win

Suffolk, VA

#15 May 5, 2008
Denbigh2YC wrote:
hmmm, the child care center is not ran by the Department of Defense, it is sponsored by the base it is located on, but the employees are not government minus one the director. most of the staffing is funded by non-appropiated funds just like the BX. As far as the members careers seeing how it was two active military members would not be impacted. It was/is the parents right to file a suite if no action was taken to correct the problem or find out how this happened. With out being a party to this determining the reason of it being dropped is impossible. most importantly would be ensuring the child is okay and no other child is hurt while under the centers care. As a former member of the 1st fighter wing I'm pretty sure no one was out to get them for doing the right thing while serving.
LOL you have never used base legal services. just kidding.
You can LOL (Laugh Out Loud)and make light of this. You sound like Base Legal trying to point the finger the other way. It happened on Base, the government is responsible for the quality of ALL its operations, including those run by civilians hired by the government.
I know from a personal experience how the government pressures work against active duty personnel. Even the innocent can be made to look guilty without proof. You have to prove your innocence while the government doesn't.
Plausible deny ability is the government standard.
Denbigh2YC

Columbus, OH

#16 May 5, 2008
First and foremost, the care provided by the center should also be first quality. Two active duty parents placed the child under the care of the center. the parents can not serve if they are worried about the child (agreed). I simply choose the believe that the parents got bullied into dropping the issue. I also would not believe the case was not investigated, by the base. If you have ever been in the center you would see video cameras that record and have full and I mean full visibility in each and every room. the most probal cause the parents attorney (Civilian) advised to drop the suite and not Big Brother influencing them. If your personal expierence is different then thanks for sharing. I would have used every tool available to fix that undo pressure, starting with my First Shirt and going up the chain from there. While serving you do give up certain rights and live by a different code of standards than john Que Public. I'm not base legal, but I was a first line supervisor and my troops were priorty #1 to include thier dependant family members.

Since: Apr 08

Virginia Beach, VA

#17 May 5, 2008
Ignorant kook, my buddy the E5 (12 years my junion) makes more than me and survives. He can hardly handle the money b/c he is earning it without either experience or education.. It took him 4 years and a criminal record as a young adult. It took me a college degree (Engineering) & 12 years working to make near that amount of money.
Denbigh2YC wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah that big income of 2000 per month for E-5 is just smoking hot. Oh and those housing benefits, just driving by the housing (located in Yorktown)makes me want to re-up and do another 20 years. I almost forgot the deployments over-time pay. The money his wife makes is just spending money I'm sure. Now lets talk about the cost for the daycare he's paying (based on house hold income). If it were my kid hurt while being under thier care I'd go after them as well. Did you know there is a waiting list to be able to use that day care center? I would say it was dropped because the problem was corrected. Who knows? Please don't assume they have money because they live in YC. The average rent for a house or apartment is well above what they get for housing. Most choose YC because of the school district and pay dearly for living there. Personally it cost me over 200 more than basic housing allowances.
Denbigh2YC

Columbus, OH

#18 May 5, 2008
I really must have been doing something wrong while I was an E5. I have to tell you my wife and I really struggled to make ends meet. With my housing allowance and base pay I was only looking at 3500 a month after taxes. I'll give you the fact I was not having to pay for health insurance. Okay I chose to live in a better area, so my kids could go to a decent school and that cost me over 200 dollars more than I was aloted. We did little extra for fun, maybe take the kids to a movie or dinner. compared by our civilian counter parts we were poor. Anyways the comment was meant to be sarcasim.

“The Apocalypse is a Myth ”

Since: Feb 08

Buckroe/Phoebus/Fox Hill

#19 May 5, 2008
It would appear that nothing could be proved in court, thus a dismissal of the lawsuit. Sometimes it's just best to forgo the legalities and accept that accidents happen, and you'll never know how/when/where, etc. Finding someone to blame, while the norm in this country, is getting old.
Denbigh2YC

Columbus, OH

#20 May 5, 2008
5th Horseman wrote:
It would appear that nothing could be proved in court, thus a dismissal of the lawsuit. Sometimes it's just best to forgo the legalities and accept that accidents happen, and you'll never know how/when/where, etc. Finding someone to blame, while the norm in this country, is getting old.
I would agree with that. I am sure that the base did investigate the incident, as required. I'm sure the lawyers had access to video and interviews of the workers and advised the parents based on that information. No conspiracy cover up or bully the parents into dropping it. Hope the child and parents are well and still serving!
truth

Davenport, IA

#21 May 8, 2008
The child care center hires anyone off the street. I used them once, thought the service was extremely bad. I walked in to pick up my son,, and it appeared as if the forgot he was there. I never used them again. I say sue the low life civilian directors they hire to run them programs, they are worthless. The take advantage of active duty military to do their dirty work (MWR) so they dont have to show a pay record for them. 1990 Brass rail.

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