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blah

Baldwin Park, CA

#41291 Nov 13, 2013
blah blah
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#41292 Nov 13, 2013
blah wrote:
blah blah
OnlyPatchWork wrote:
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories2010/imag...

When looking for evidence of global warming, there are many different indicators that we should look for. Whilst it's natural to start with air temperatures, a more thorough examination should be as inclusive as possible; snow cover, ice melt, air temperatures over land and sea, even the sea temperatures themselves. A 2010 study included 10 key indicators, and as shown [above], every one of them is moving in the direction expected of a warming globe.[skepticalscience.com]
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#41293 Nov 13, 2013
Here ya go, ole King Coal:

"markets are demolishing coal more effectively than government. Since 1990, power companies have selected coal for merely 6% of new generation. Gas was the fuel for 77%, even as coal has been far more competitive than it is today."

"Now gas enjoys a huge price advantage, driven by the hydraulic-fracturing techno-revolution and the vast shale reserves of the greater Midwest. When gas is trading at $6 per million British thermal units, it is 50% cheaper than coal over the life of a power plant. Today, gas is trading near $2."

http://www.google.com/url...

Since: Jul 11

Location hidden

#41294 Nov 13, 2013
Global temperatures are almost half a degree Celsius above the long-term average so far in 2013, putting this year on course to be among the 10 hottest since records began, the world's leading meteorological agency says.

In a provisional statement on the global climate in 2013, the World Meteorological Organisation says the first nine months of this year tied with 2003 as the seventh hottest such period on record.

The statement was released in Warsaw on Wednesday where countries are meeting for the latest round of negotiations on a new treaty to tackle global warming.
Al Gore

Fullerton, CA

#41295 Nov 13, 2013
Under my plan, all global warming believers are put in a lockbox.

Since: Mar 09

Wichita, KS

#41296 Nov 14, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
Global temperatures are almost half a degree Celsius above the long-term average so far in 2013, putting this year on course to be among the 10 hottest since records began, the world's leading meteorological agency says.
In a provisional statement on the global climate in 2013, the World Meteorological Organisation says the first nine months of this year tied with 2003 as the seventh hottest such period on record.
The statement was released in Warsaw on Wednesday where countries are meeting for the latest round of negotiations on a new treaty to tackle global warming.
Also; The public debate about the alleged “warming pause” was misguided from the outset, because far too much was read into a cherry-picked short-term trend. Now this debate has become completely baseless, because the trend of the last 15 or 16 years is nothing unusual – even despite the record El Niño year at the beginning of the period. It is still a quarter less than the warming trend since 1980, which is 0.16 °C per decade. But that’s not surprising when one starts with an extreme El Niño and ends with persistent La Niña conditions, and is also running through a particularly deep and prolonged solar minimum in the second half. As we often said, all this is within the usual variability around the long-term global warming trend and no cause for excited over-interpretation.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#41297 Nov 14, 2013
Al Gore wrote:
Under my plan, all global warming believers are put in a lockbox.
Global warming since 1997 more than twice as fast as previously estimated, new study shows

A new paper published in The Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society fills in the gaps in the UK Met Office HadCRUT4 surface temperature data set, and finds that the global surface warming since 1997 has happened more than twice as fast as the HadCRUT4 estimate.[skepticalscience.com ]
Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#41298 Nov 14, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
Also; The public debate about the alleged “warming pause” was misguided from the outset, because far too much was read into a cherry-picked short-term trend. Now this debate has become completely baseless, because the trend of the last 15 or 16 years is nothing unusual – even despite the record El Niño year at the beginning of the period. It is still a quarter less than the warming trend since 1980, which is 0.16 °C per decade. But that’s not surprising when one starts with an extreme El Niño and ends with persistent La Niña conditions, and is also running through a particularly deep and prolonged solar minimum in the second half. As we often said, all this is within the usual variability around the long-term global warming trend and no cause for excited over-interpretation.
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives...
All this 'cut and paste' is a diversion from the point: It is a 'FACT' that CO2 is the MAIN driver of Global Warming and in the past 15+ years atmospheric CO2 has been rising at an Unprecedented Rate!!!

The theory is simple... and every science academy in the world agrees that temps must go up as CO2 goes up.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#41299 Nov 14, 2013
Cut n Paste wrote:
<quoted text>
All this 'cut and paste' is a diversion from the point: It is a 'FACT' that CO2 is the MAIN driver of Global Warming and in the past 15+ years atmospheric CO2 has been rising at an Unprecedented Rate!!!
The theory is simple... and every science academy in the world agrees that temps must go up as CO2 goes up.
You are simple in your ignorance.. A new paper published in The Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society fills in the gaps in the UK Met Office HadCRUT4 surface temperature data set, and finds that the global surface warming since 1997 has happened more than twice as fast as the HadCRUT4 estimate.

Both of their new surface temperature data sets show significantly more warming over the past 16 years than HadCRUT4. This is mainly due to HadCRUT4 missing accelerated Arctic warming, especially since 1997.

Cowtan & Way investigate the claim of a global surface warming 'pause' over the past 16 years by examining the trends from 1997 through 2012. While HadCRUT4 only estimates the surface warming trend at 0.046°C per decade during that time, and NASA puts it at 0.080°C per decade, the new kriging and hybrid data sets estimate the trend during this time at 0.11 and 0.12°C per decade, respectively.

These results indicate that the slowed warming of average global surface temperature is not as significant as previously believed. Surface warming has slowed somewhat, in large part due to more overall global warming being transferred to the oceans over the past decade. However, these sorts of temporary surface warming slowdowns (and speed-ups) occur on a regular basis due to short-term natural influences.

The results of this study also have bearing on some recent research. For example, correcting for the recent cool bias indicates that global surface temperatures are not as far from the average of climate model projections as we previously thought, and certainly fall within the range of individual climate model temperature simulations. Recent studies that concluded the global climate is a bit less sensitive to the increased greenhouse effect than previously believed may also have somewhat underestimated the actual climate sensitivity.

Do you get it? Of course, NOT. It is your ideology.

There are many factors that influence our climate change knowledge and attitudes, including education, scientific literacy and personal experience. Political ideology has a significant influence on climate change beliefs. A striking demonstration of the powerful effect of ideology is the finding that as education levels increased, Democrats became more concerned about climate change while Republicans became less concerned. Ideology rather than education is the hand at the wheel driving climate attitudes.
litesong

Monroe, WA

#41300 Nov 14, 2013
cut n pasted wrote:
The theory is simple... and every science academy in the world agrees that temps must go up as CO2 goes up.
You are a silly goose. GHGs(not just CO2) slow heat flow away from Earth, but climate variations can readily overcome GHG ability to slowly increase Earth surface temperatures. However, seasonal variations cyclically rise & fall, whereas INCREASING GHGs INCREASE their ability to retard Earth heat flow.

Yes, it is a simple theory. However, toxic topix AGW deniers still don't understand, since toxic topix AGW deniers have no science & mathematics degrees, & no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, or pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas.
litesong

Monroe, WA

#41301 Nov 14, 2013
Al Gore wrote:
.....global warming believers are put in a lockbox.
toxic topix AGW deniers still don't understand, that they put their brains in a lockbox, since toxic topix AGW deniers have no science & mathematics degrees, & no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, or pre-calc in their poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaas.

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#41302 Nov 14, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya never know, those tin foil hats you and Brian wear to block anything getting in just might be influencing the moon's gravitational pull. So it's feasible you guys could be affecting the tides!
how would aluminum effect gravity.... If I were wearing a tin foil hat....which I don't ?

“Let's X Change!!”

Since: Feb 09

B4 HOPE Is Gone...

#41303 Nov 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>LOL.
Are you a serial sensationalist?
LOL.
never! I leave that to the doomsday warmists. Why would I try to steal your " thunder", son? That's all you have!
Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#41304 Nov 14, 2013
"Cowtan & Way investigate the claim of a global surface warming 'pause' over the past 16 years by examining the trends from 1997 through 2012. While HadCRUT4 only estimates the surface warming trend at 0.046°C per decade during that time, and NASA puts it at 0.080°C per decade, the new kriging and hybrid data sets estimate the trend during this time at 0.11 and 0.12°C per decade, respectively."

Yes, the latest ESTIMATES prove that as CO2 (the main driver in CC) goes up so do Temps. Further validation of the scientific consensus in AGW theory.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#41305 Nov 14, 2013
ritedownthemiddle wrote:
<quoted text>never! I leave that to the doomsday warmists. Why would I try to steal your " thunder", son? That's all you have!
hahahaha awwwww

Aren't you a lovely sensationalist!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#41306 Nov 14, 2013
Cut n Paste wrote:
"Cowtan & Way investigate the claim of a global surface warming 'pause' over the past 16 years by examining the trends from 1997 through 2012. While HadCRUT4 only estimates the surface warming trend at 0.046°C per decade during that time, and NASA puts it at 0.080°C per decade, the new kriging and hybrid data sets estimate the trend during this time at 0.11 and 0.12°C per decade, respectively."
Yes, the latest ESTIMATES prove that as CO2 (the main driver in CC) goes up so do Temps. Further validation of the scientific consensus in AGW theory.
Facts and numbers are of no interest to you!

What do you mean by your last sentence? Your ideology is peeking with its nose again..
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#41307 Nov 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Global warming since 1997 more than twice as fast as previously estimated, new study shows
A new paper published in The Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society fills in the gaps in the UK Met Office HadCRUT4 surface temperature data set, and finds that the global surface warming since 1997 has happened more than twice as fast as the HadCRUT4 estimate.[skepticalscience.com ]
The contradictions continue....

Bozo just posted a link lamenting short term trends, "Also; The public debate about the alleged “warming pause” was misguided from the outset, because far too much was read into a cherry-picked short-term trend. Now this debate has become completely baseless, because the trend of the last 15 or 16 years"

...then you cite what?

A study of a short term trend.

LOL
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#41308 Nov 14, 2013
Cut n Paste wrote:
<quoted text>
All this 'cut and paste' is a diversion from the point: It is a 'FACT' that CO2 is the MAIN driver of Global Warming and in the past 15+ years atmospheric CO2 has been rising at an Unprecedented Rate!!!
The theory is simple... and every science academy in the world agrees that temps must go up as CO2 goes up.
The contradictions continue....

Bozo just posted a link lamenting short term trends, "Also; The public debate about the alleged “warming pause” was misguided from the outset, because far too much was read into a cherry-picked short-term trend. Now this debate has become completely baseless, because the trend of the last 15 or 16 years"

...then you recite what?

A short term trend.

LOL
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#41309 Nov 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>You are simple in your ignorance.. A new paper published in The Quarterly Journal of the Royal Meteorological Society fills in the gaps in the UK Met Office HadCRUT4 surface temperature data set, and finds that the global surface warming since 1997 has happened more than twice as fast as the HadCRUT4 estimate.
Both of their new surface temperature data sets show significantly more warming over the past 16 years than HadCRUT4. This is mainly due to HadCRUT4 missing accelerated Arctic warming, especially since 1997.
Cowtan & Way investigate the claim of a global surface warming 'pause' over the past 16 years by examining the trends from 1997 through 2012. While HadCRUT4 only estimates the surface warming trend at 0.046°C per decade during that time, and NASA puts it at 0.080°C per decade, the new kriging and hybrid data sets estimate the trend during this time at 0.11 and 0.12°C per decade, respectively.
These results indicate that the slowed warming of average global surface temperature is not as significant as previously believed. Surface warming has slowed somewhat, in large part due to more overall global warming being transferred to the oceans over the past decade. However, these sorts of temporary surface warming slowdowns (and speed-ups) occur on a regular basis due to short-term natural influences.
The results of this study also have bearing on some recent research. For example, correcting for the recent cool bias indicates that global surface temperatures are not as far from the average of climate model projections as we previously thought, and certainly fall within the range of individual climate model temperature simulations. Recent studies that concluded the global climate is a bit less sensitive to the increased greenhouse effect than previously believed may also have somewhat underestimated the actual climate sensitivity.
Do you get it? Of course, NOT. It is your ideology.
There are many factors that influence our climate change knowledge and attitudes, including education, scientific literacy and personal experience. Political ideology has a significant influence on climate change beliefs. A striking demonstration of the powerful effect of ideology is the finding that as education levels increased, Democrats became more concerned about climate change while Republicans became less concerned. Ideology rather than education is the hand at the wheel driving climate attitudes.
The contradictions continue....

Bozo just posted a link lamenting short term trends, "Also; The public debate about the alleged “warming pause” was misguided from the outset, because far too much was read into a cherry-picked short-term trend. Now this debate has become completely baseless, because the trend of the last 15 or 16 years"

...then you cite what?

A study of a short term trend.

LOL
Mothra

Phoenix, AZ

#41310 Nov 14, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
jackass loon

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