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Dan Michaud

Somerset, NJ

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#47
Dec 1, 2011
 
Thet called me today. It took me three times to get him to answer my question "Are you a police officer?". His response was to hang up on me....
Steve Cann

San Jose, CA

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Feb 13, 2012
 

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Check out the web site:
http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/stories/2...

It shows they raised over 2 million dollars and only 4% Around $90,000 went to anyone they claim to support.
They were also very pushy on the phone. I pledged nothing. I insisted they just send me the information. I was not going to give them anything over the phone. When I got the mail, I looked them up on the web and found their website. Read their website for yourself to see if you agree with them. I did not donate because of the 2007 review and also that they are not accredited with the Better Business Bureau.

Question them, research them , see what you think yourself. I returned their voided pledge card with a letter saying "You should be ashamed to call yourself a police organization helping widows."

Be careful. If you think you might want to help, always ask them to send you something in the mail first. Be bold. Be strong.
TJf

Phoenix, AZ

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#49
May 24, 2012
 
I can't believe I got a call from them today. I worked in a call center in college 30 years ago doing the same scam. It is a to them.otal scam I assure you. Not a penny goes to the FOP. Not one penny. I was so good they made me supervisor after a week. I am ashamed I did it but needed the cash. Which is what they paid me. 50% back to me in cash. Dont give them a dime.
MikeS

United States

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#50
May 31, 2012
 
Seems the FOP are still calling. Only 30% of money goes to FOP or to benefit police. Way TOO low!!!
pete

Hightstown, NJ

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#51
Dec 27, 2012
 
Pat wrote:
I received a call the other night, and made a pledge. They really pushed for the credit card number, but I refused to give it to them. I got the package today, and looked up all the info, and was disgusted by what I found: Check out this article
http://www.njbiz.com/article.asp...
In case it disappears, the basic premise is:
The state Fraternal Order of Police says it provides death benefits and other services for more than 14,000 New Jersey police officers. But an NJBIZ investigation in December (Where Your Pledge Money Really Goes) revealed that $82,934—or less than 2 percent—was actually paid out for the "good and welfare" of the officers. Instead, the organization's federal tax return shows that $3.7 million—or 87.2 percent of the public donations—was spent on fundraising expenses, including fees to an Edison-based consulting company, Civic Development Group LLC, that has a long history of disputes with federal and state regulators.
Starting tomorrow, the PBA says it is kicking off "a media blitz" to alert New Jersey residents about the state Fraternal Order of Police. The PBA is also concerned about reports of "high pressure phone calls and questionable tactics with elderly people in nursing homes," according to a statement released by the organization.
This article is dated 8/19/08
First of all CDG has been out of business since 2009. I find it laughable that the PBA is concerned about fundraising over the phone, when you consider that they used to do telephonic fundraisers until approx 1995. That's when the state PBA president couldnt keep his hand out of the cookie jar and absconded with about 500,000 from the PBA's general fundraising account. So they changed their bylaws regarding fundraising and now simply do mail outs. The reason FOP's do phone fundraisers is simply. They make more money because it is less expensive. If you mail an envelope to every person in their town or county, it would be far more expensive then just sending those envelopes to people who actually want to help and make a contribution. Many folks feel obligated when they get them in the mail to make a donation, and some people really can't do it. So I have no problem with being asked if I can or would like to help. Getting upset or acting like an idiot slamming the phone is just nonsensical. Saying "No I can't do it" is always an option lol.
pete

Hightstown, NJ

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#52
Dec 27, 2012
 
MikeS wrote:
Seems the FOP are still calling. Only 30% of money goes to FOP or to benefit police. Way TOO low!!!
Well Mike what you don't understand is that 30 percent you're talking about is 100% profit for the organization. The FOP doesn't pay for postage or overhead or decals or payroll when they do a fundraiser. They have zero cost, and often times have a guaranteed minimum they will raise from the fundraiser. I would imagine that you don't work for free? Nor can you expect the person making the calls to do it for nothing lol. The simple fact is the reason these organizations do their fundraisers this way is because it is far more profitable for them to do them this way. After all, you wouldn't ask a fundraising company to patrol your area, conversely police know as much about fundraising as fundraising companies know about public safety
pete

Hightstown, NJ

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#53
Dec 27, 2012
 
AnonymousPolice wrote:
Thanks. I have been getting so many calls from the NJ Franternal Order of Police and they are PUSHY. I was going to send them money but after checking on the web and this post I will not send them anything. I am on the government's do not call list and they still call me.
The governments do not call list lol. If you had bothered to read the disclaimer when you signed up for it, it clearly states that it doesn't apply to "charities, insurance companies, or political associations". Like most people you just don't read what you signed up for. However, if you ask them to, they are obligated to put you on their do not call list. But that is only going to stop that particular organization from calling you, not all organizations
pete

Hightstown, NJ

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#54
Dec 27, 2012
 
John Wilder wrote:
My 89-year-old mother in Rhode Island was solicited by phone by the "R. I. Fraternal Order of Police, State Lodge," and they sent a paper request after my mother refused to donate over the phone.
On their paper request is the disclaimer:
"Although the F.O.P. is recognized as a non-profit organization by the IRS, because of its particular status, donations are not tax deductible as charitable contributions for Federal tax purposes."
What do you make of that?
John, FOP'S are Police Unions. Their tax status is 501 (c)-6 or (c)-5 because of that your donation is not 100%. You would have to contact your tax advisor in order to determine what portion is tax deductible.
pete

Hightstown, NJ

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#55
Dec 27, 2012
 
I just hate to see FOP's get a bad rap from the PBA. I get a mailer every year from my town's PBA. I also give to my county sheriffs FOP that does call me and ask each year if I can help and make a donation. Now I have never once seen from my local PBA envelope what on earth they use the money for? For all I know they could buy a bunch of tequila and have a big party at a members house every year. I don't know where that money goes. Now on the one from the Sheriffs Office (which is an FOP) there is a listing in the letter of the charitable causes that the money benefits. Now it doesn't give me a breakdown of how much or what percentage, but at least it lists what it supports. The PBA doesn't list anything and yet they are the first to act holier than thou in the fundraising game, when I know that have a very spotty past as a group.
pete

Hightstown, NJ

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#56
Dec 27, 2012
 
Alf wrote:
File a cival lawsuit against the NJ FOP. worked for my brother. No more calls & $5000 in his bank plus they had to pay his lawyer, court cost and incidental (hotel, per diem etc..) expenses.
Really lol Alf. Btw that would be civil. First of all you would have to prove harassment which is difficult. Second, you would have to sue the fundraising company doing the drive and not the FOP. Thirdly, it would be hard to sue the fundraising company, because they generally have their callers sign a document that says they will follow the script as written. In order to prove harassment the caller would have to deviate from the script and that would put it on the caller and not the company. Good luck getting 5 g's out of a caller lol.

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