2 women charged in daycare scam

Sep 28, 2007 Read more: The Indianapolis Star 63
Two Gary women have been charged with stealing nearly $150,000 from the state for fraudulent daycare services. Read more
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tbfiii

United States

#1 Sep 28, 2007
The parents whom left their cards should also be charged.
Good Grief

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Sep 28, 2007
tbfiii wrote:
The parents whom left their cards should also be charged.
Absolutely!!!
beth in indy

Pleasanton, CA

#4 Sep 28, 2007
This is another example why anything paid for "though the government entitlement system" doesn't work. It may be initiated out of compassion, but all too quickly the scammers come out of the woodwork. There are so many entitlement programs, now, that good oversight is humanly impossible! Unfortunately, the end result is more money out of the pockets of those who DO work, and less help for the FEW who REALLY do need the TEMPORARY help to get on their feet!

Since: Sep 07

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Sep 28, 2007
This is why there should be stronger policies toward licensing daycares. Everyone should have to be licensed, and checked up on frequently. Harsher punishments to those who are fraudulent should be imposed. As a mother who is about to put her son in daycare, events such as these make me nervous and angry. No mother should have to worry if their child is being cared for properly or if the employees are doing fradudelent activites, but alas we do not live in a perfect world.
Vigilant

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Sep 28, 2007
"Authorities say several parents left their swipe cards and passcodes with McWhorter, even though that was a violation of their agreement with the Child Care Development program."
I wonder if the parents knew their cards were being used when their kids were not there? If they did then they also should be charged.

Maybe, McWorter told the parents they have to leave their cards at the office (as part of their enrollment agreement)?
Concerned

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Sep 28, 2007
This definately makes it hard for these young women that are truly needing child care to pursue jobs and careers to better their lifestyles.

I think the owners of the cards should be charged as well. Teaches them good.
blah

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Sep 28, 2007
beth in indy wrote:
This is another example why anything paid for "though the government entitlement system" doesn't work. It may be initiated out of compassion, but all too quickly the scammers come out of the woodwork. There are so many entitlement programs, now, that good oversight is humanly impossible! Unfortunately, the end result is more money out of the pockets of those who DO work, and less help for the FEW who REALLY do need the TEMPORARY help to get on their feet!
Two words... system overhaul

Think about how many out there don't get caught
Jane

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Sep 28, 2007
Well truthfully as a parent I might have left my card there as well not thinking that these ladies would swipe the card while my child was not there. The card is pointless to have unless you are taking your child to daycare, its not used for food stamps, its used for child care so, who would have ever guessed. The parents should not get charged with any offense. Wow, wonder how long this went on before anyone caught on? Way to go government, lets give some more money to those who don't deserve it!!!
Mommy

Pryor, OK

#14 Sep 28, 2007
This makes me mad. Years ago we had Daybreak until the scandal. Then the State cut us off.

Before the heartless posters tear into me. I worked at a low wage job and daycare took ALOT of money for my two kids. Just finding a magical high paying job was NOT an option back then. The increased daycare burden was a hardship.

Now they will probably punish mothers who had nothing to do with this by "reevaluating" their status just like the Daybreak days.
cygnus

Greenwood, IN

#15 Sep 28, 2007
HistoryPixie wrote:
This is why there should be stronger policies toward licensing daycares. Everyone should have to be licensed, and checked up on frequently. Harsher punishments to those who are fraudulent should be imposed. As a mother who is about to put her son in daycare, events such as these make me nervous and angry. No mother should have to worry if their child is being cared for properly or if the employees are doing fraudulent activities, but alas we do not live in a perfect world.
Unfortunately, these were licensed child care homes. Legally licensed exempt providers can only provide care for, up to 5 children, unless they are an Unlicensed Register Ministry. In which case, they can care for as many children as the building can legally hold.

You can find a ton of information about child care regulations through the Indiana Association for Child Care Resource and Referral ( www.iaccrr.org ), or the Carefinder Indiana Website ( www.in.gov/fssa/carefinder/ ).
DUH

Ashland, OH

#16 Sep 28, 2007
These people were licensed....
There are certain steps a childcare must take to even be eligible for this program.

Licensed daycares are bad also. It was a licensed daycare that was giving out a sleeping potion everyday. It was a licensed daycare in Tennessee that hid infants in a storage room because they were over in numbers. All a license is, is a way for the state to make sure they get their taxes. The licensing process is just paperwork, a ciminal check, and a drug test. Oh, and CPR. Who doesn't take CPR when they care for little ones?
HistoryPixie wrote:
This is why there should be stronger policies toward licensing daycares. Everyone should have to be licensed, and checked up on frequently. Harsher punishments to those who are fraudulent should be imposed. As a mother who is about to put her son in daycare, events such as these make me nervous and angry. No mother should have to worry if their child is being cared for properly or if the employees are doing fradudelent activites, but alas we do not live in a perfect world.
INDY-RN

Newport, KY

#17 Sep 28, 2007
Jane wrote:
Well truthfully as a parent I might have left my card there as well not thinking that these ladies would swipe the card while my child was not there. The card is pointless to have unless you are taking your child to daycare, its not used for food stamps, its used for child care so, who would have ever guessed. The parents should not get charged with any offense. Wow, wonder how long this went on before anyone caught on? Way to go government, lets give some more money to those who don't deserve it!!!
Um.... they left the card and the passcode.

Why would you leave the card and why is it up to the government to keep you honest?

The parents, if found to be part of this scam should go to jail too.
curious

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Sep 28, 2007
Jane wrote:
Well truthfully as a parent I might have left my card there as well not thinking that these ladies would swipe the card while my child was not there.
You're kidding right?! Would you leave your PERSONAL debit/charge card or your own cash and be so trusting? Or are you only willing to tempt someone with someone elses (taxpayers) money? Geez!
Jane wrote:
The card is pointless to have unless you are taking your child to daycare, its not used for food stamps, its used for child care so, who would have ever guessed.
ummmm, anyone with common sense...so I guess that explains you. Anyway, you give new meaning to "entitlement sponge". FTE - you "should" be ashamed.:P
Jane wrote:
The parents should not get charged with any offense.


lol, try again. They should have to foot the bill because they too abused the system.
Jane wrote:
Wow, wonder how long this went on before anyone caught on? Way to go government, lets give some more money to those who don't deserve it!!!
Really, it's the governments fault?! You need a good dose of reality.
rwillians

United States

#20 Sep 28, 2007
More welfare queens getting caught after living off the system for years. They were licensed and approved by their sister welfare queens. This is the " govment" you know.
Card

Carmel, IN

#21 Sep 28, 2007
Indiana Res wrote:
Hmmmmm....The mother is 37 and the daughter is 21....If you are allowed to follow the system then you will end up cheating the system. I would think the mother, at 16, used the system and knew what she was doing. I wonder how old grandma is...53?
I was thinking the same thing...mom had the daughter at 16, was obviously a poor role model, now they're co-thieves. If the daughter has kids, they likely will wind up in the criminal justice system too.

Some, if not most, people just should not breed.
Card

Carmel, IN

#22 Sep 28, 2007
Jane wrote:
Well truthfully as a parent I might have left my card there as well not thinking that these ladies would swipe the card while my child was not there. The card is pointless to have unless you are taking your child to daycare, its not used for food stamps, its used for child care so, who would have ever guessed. The parents should not get charged with any offense. Wow, wonder how long this went on before anyone caught on? Way to go government, lets give some more money to those who don't deserve it!!!
You sound like you're familiar with these types of taxpayer funded benefits. Why shouldn't the parents be penalized? They violated the rules of the program. If there's no incentive to follow the rules, then people break the rules. The penalty should be decreased benefits. That'll teach them.
anomoyous

Indianapolis, IN

#23 Sep 28, 2007
there are several people doing the same thing here in indy and there is nothing being done about this suitation
please enter your name

Indianapolis, IN

#25 Sep 28, 2007
None of you know how hard the daycare business is. First a childcare worker makes no more than $7.00 an hour watching your lil troublemaker with an additional 15 troublemakers. If a child gets hurt, like they do at your home, then they get sued. And worst of all, you parents expect to the childgiver to be the parent that you are unable to.

I say every single childcare center should shut down. And that will stop you from dumping your troublemaker on the daycare for $7.00 an hour.

Peace out...
Not a Colts fan

United States

#26 Sep 28, 2007
Vigilant wrote:
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I wonder if the parents knew their cards were being used when their kids were not there? If they did then they also should be charged.
Maybe, McWorter told the parents they have to leave their cards at the office (as part of their enrollment agreement)?
They might have been told to leave the cards, but we all know passcodes are not to be shared. Would you leave your bankcard and passcode somewhere and believe it wouldn't be used? C'mon!!
There are people out there who legitimately need the assistance and this is just going to set them back as well.
Welfare fraud is not punished enough. I hear your first offense is just a temporary suspension from the programs, that just teaches them what not to do. I believe any fraud should make you ineligible for any assistance for your lifetime!
CHUCO

El Paso, TX

#29 Sep 28, 2007
THE SYSTEM FINALLY CAUGHT UP WIT YOU ALL. SHAME ON YOU. THINK OF THE CHILDREN....FOR GODS SAKE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!

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