Hammond church on fired pastor: 'We trusted that man'

Aug 1, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: WGN-TV Chicago

An evangelical megachurch pastor has lost his job and is being investigated by the sheriff's department in Hammond, Ind., after admitting to an "improper relationship" with a young woman, according to a spokesman for First Baptist Church of Hammond.

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concerned Christian

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This is outrage!!!! This evil, narcississ, man needs to be arrested. What he did is abuse and I'm sure over the years there was others.. He made himself God in Gods church with his power and position... Don't give me this oh everybody sins so let it go forgive him??? Are you kidding??? Jail is full of ppl who did this!!!This man I'm sure committed a crime, probably not the firsr time, bein around so many young girls, he has a problem serious one and justice needs to be served... Doesn't matter who he is, was, or who his wife is the daughter of.... That's why wicked Pastors like him get away with abuse.. I pray Gods mighty hand comes forth!!!
Ali

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I really hope the men of the Church do the right thing....so many of these get covered up for example the Chappell family! Larry (dad) and Mark (brother) to Paul Chappell in Lancaster. Paul has never been accused he seems honest but he still covers for his dad and brother. Mark is a known molester of teens in CT then went to daddy's church in Long Beach, daddy got kicked out then Mark 6 yrs later now he's at Freeway in Phx. I hope in light of this his victims will come forward. Schaap deserves jail time! And the CLA just support these men they did in Marks case even threatened his wife, but after so many times she had enough and left! Of course he remarried and came to AZ within 3yrs and 10 months!
Michael Warner

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I, since the time I was young, I thought abut the role of pastors, ministers,rabbi's, catholic priest, rabbi's, you don't here to much about, rather, secrecy, or not consequential, I'm Not sure of. We must start, to hold our spiritule leaders, up to scrutine. some times,that is why I don't attend services, because, it makes me so mad, about the shennannigans of the leaders. I'm am sure thet many black Men see this, and are disgruntled with the message. I understand, that you do not go to ythe church, to the mosque, or an ability, to reach a higher level. is rejected, by a lot of black men. I'm not saying, that it has to be that way , but it is a reality, of today,s black society. Much love everyone. Wake up!
Samatha

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He should have been fired! Pretend Christians just give ammunition to Gays who frequently attack Christianity.

It is usually Gays hiding behind atheism that have launched multiple lawsuits against any public display of Christianity. Make no mistake it is in fact homosexuals behind the attacks.
Samatha

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Sep 21, 2012
 
Gay Group who call themselves "Angry Queers’: Christians are ‘scum,’ deserve ‘hammers through their windows’

Fri Apr 27, 2012 10:01 EST
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Tags: angry queers, hate crimes, mars hill church, oregon



Warning: This story includes vulgar language as quoted in an e-mail from an extremist homosexual rights group.

PORTLAND, OREGON, April 27, 2012, The group that allegedly smashed up a Portland church hopes its “small act of vengeance will strike fear into the hearts of” Christian leaders who teach traditional sexual morality, according to an e-mail message the group released to the public.

A group calling itself “Angry Queers” has claimed responsibility for throwing baseball-sized rocks through nine church windows in Portland’s Mars Hill Church, including two 100-year-old stained glass panes.

Two versions of the e-mail have been sent to the media, one longer and slightly more incendiary than the other, but both apparently originating from the same group. In the longer version, the LGBT activists state they destroyed church property in the names of several local transgender people who have died, and “all other trans women” whose deaths they blame on “this cissexist, femmephobic, racist, and transmisogynistic society.”

“Churches are a major contributor to the culture that deems trans women of color to be disposable, as not worth keeping alive,” the statement read.

The “brand of Christianity” taught by Mark Driscoll, pastor of the largest Mars Hill Church in Seattle,“crusades against the ‘feminization’ of Jesus,” the e-mail stated.“We angry queers are not fans of Jesus, but we have a problem with anyone who has a problem with femmes.”

The e-mail, which is peppered with foul language, berates the Q Center, a local LGBT activist organization, for engaging in a dialogue with the Mars Hill’s leadership.“What we have to say to the Q Center is this: F—K YOU, you don’t represent us. You are disgusting traitors who prioritize social peace and the bourgeois aspirations of rich white cis gay people over the more pressing survival needs of more marginalized queers.”

“F—k dialog with people who want us dead,” the e-mail read.“The only dialog we need with scum like Mars Hill is hammers through their windows.”

“We hope this small act of vengeance will strike some fear into the hearts of all of Mars Hill’s pastors, and warm the hearts of our friends and comrades (known or unknown). It may not get better, but we can certainly get even,” it concludes.

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The local Fox affiliate, KPTV, sent a local homosexual media outlet a copy of the e-mail they received, which is missing several of the communication’s most risible phrases.

However, a reporter at competing KOIN also received a copy of the e-mail. KOIN’s coverage quotes words found only in the longer e-mail.

The longer version names several dead transgender people by first and last name, then references them by first name later. The shorter version only includes the reference to their first names, which may authenticate the longer and more inflammatory version sent to KOIN.

The homosexual media outlet that obtained the KPTV version of the e-mail stated officials at the Fox station said the shorter version is the one they received. The blogger believes “the email’s author(s) submitted a somewhat different version to different outlets.”

Neither media outlet reported the message’s invocations of violence against traditional Christians, which appeared in both versions.

The long form of the e-mail has also appeared on several left-wing websites in the area.

Even before the text of the e-mail had become public, Chuck Currie, a minister in the United Church of Christ (UCC), wrote,“I call on the Portland Police to treat this as a hate crime against all people of faith, regardless of religious tradition or belief.”

Samatha

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Sep 21, 2012
 
However, a commenter calling himself “Angry Queer” on a local homosexual website incited further vandalism, writing:“I hope some sexy, angry queers (like myself) smashed this s**t up and will continue to until Mars Hill cannot exist peacefully in Portland. There is no peace for queers — we are murdered, bashed and ridiculed every f**king day. To have some windows of a huge INSTITUTION THAT PERPETUATES AND BREEDS THE HELL WE LIVE IN EVERY DAY smashed is a small victory and a boost in morale.”
Below the video is the full text of the e-mail as it appears on several left-wing activist websites. The portions that differ from the KPTV version are in italics.
Early in the morning of April 24th a group of angry queers smashed out the windows of Mars Hill Church in Southeast Portland. Mars Hill is notoriously anti-gay and anti-woman. Mark Driscoll, Mars Hill’s head pastor, has said that women need to be subservient to their husbands and that gay people are a cancer. His personal brand of Christianity crusades against the “feminization” of Jesus - we angry queers are not fans of Jesus, but we have a problem with anyone who has a problem with femmes.
This action was taken in memory of Mark Aguhar, a fierce queer/trans femme of color and artist from Chicago who killed herself a little over a month ago. We also hold in our hearts Paige Clay, a trans woman of color who was found murdered in Chicago on April 16th; Duanna Johnson, a black trans woman who was in all likelihood murdered by the police in 2008; Agnes Torres Sulca, Deoni Jones, and all other trans women who have been murdered by this cissexist, femmephobic, racist, and transmisogynistic society.
Churches are a major contributor to the culture that deems trans women of color to be disposable, as not worth keeping alive. Children who are forced to attend Mars Hill are indoctrinated in hateful dogma that teaches them their natural desires are an abomination that will damn them to hell. Dan Savage’s “It Gets Better” campaign does nothing in the here and now for queer kids trapped in abusive home or religious settings. And it never got better for Mark, Duanna, Paige, Agnes, Deoni, or the countless other trans women (especially brown trans women) who are regularly murdered.
When Mars Hill moved to town, so-called “representatives” of the queer “community” from the Q Center met with officials from the church in order to have dialog. What we have to say to the Q Center is this: FUCK YOU, you don’t represent us. You are disgusting traitors who prioritize social peace and the bourgeois aspirations of rich white cis gay people over the more pressing survival needs of more marginalized queers. Fuck dialog with people who want us dead, the only dialog we need with scum like Mars Hill is hammers through their windows.
We smashed Mars Hill because they make our lives miserable. We hope this small act of vengeance will strike some fear into the hearts of all of Mars Hill’s pastors, and warm the hearts of our friends and comrades (known or unknown). It may not get better, but we can certainly get even.
Sheila

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Sep 22, 2012
 
What does this story have to do with Homosexuals?
Sheila

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Sep 22, 2012
 
This is not the first time this church has had a sexual scandal. Ballenger?
Cool Hand Luke

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Sep 24, 2012
 
Gays have been the driving force against Christianity while hiding behind atheism. Homosexuals have attacked the Boy Scouts, The Girl Scouts, Big Brother, The Salvation Army and any other institution that supports Christian values. Gays have been embolden by politicians who have pushed to forward the Gay Agenda while hiding important information about homosexual diseases.
Homosexuals who are less than 4% of the population now threaten and attack anyone who opposes their lifestyle. Judges and children are not excluded.
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Sheila wrote:
What does this story have to do with Homosexuals?
Larry G

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Oct 15, 2012
 
I don't think any profession is exempt. Here in a nearby city, the cop inside the dept was looking at kiddie pporn and a few mile away a longtime fireman was molesting.The m.o. is to get a job where young kids are located. Groom a few and then molest.
This makes it bad for males who are really helping kids;ie baseball, athletics,scouting, church, etc.I had many adult males in my youth who' never' even hinted or cursed, let alone molest. Molestors are few, but they ruin many kids and adult workers, men & women.SAD

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