fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26140 Oct 6, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>Shutting down the government is not the same thing as defaulting on our debt, duh. Shutting down the government is damaging to millions of people, defaulting on our bills would be catastrophic.
according to whom ?

“what it is, is what it is!”

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#26141 Oct 6, 2013
bacon hater wrote:
<quoted text>You haven't looked. And don't lie and say you have. First, admit that you don't understand health insurance. Admit that you don't grasp the differences and pros and cons of varying deductibles, co-pays, premium rates, catastrophic coverage and caps. It would be a huge step in the right direction for 90 percent of the dumb tea baggers who say they "hate" Obamacare. They simply do not understand health insurance and how it works. So they "hate it." Just like blacks, women, books, the Clintons, immigrants, hispanics, zombies, vaginas and young people - if they aren't "like them" or they don't understand it, THEY HATE IT. That is ignorance, and that's why you can't win an election and are the laughingstocks of the planet.
Sounds like democrats, they hate everything that isn't socialist. So what's new. That's why there is a Democrat (Socialist) Party and a Republican (Conservative) Party. They will never and should never see things the same. Why would there be two parties if they should think and do the same thing. Democrats are the biggest haters out of the two parties. They are more vile and hateful than anyone in the Republican Party ever thought of being.
George

United States

#26142 Oct 6, 2013
fitness-guru wrote:
<quoted text>according to whom ?
Stop getting your news from Fox and you would know who. EVERYONE
beautifulmind

Heraklion, Greece

#26143 Oct 6, 2013
Qzoid wrote:
<quoted text>
If the President was a "liar dictator wanna be who breaks the law when he feels like it" surely he would have been impeached by the house very first thing when they took over. Funny...
he is a lying dictator. he does break the law whenever he feels like it. house didn't impeach him because the american people didn't demand it. We will soon though. I hope, otherwise, we're doomed to more negative results.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26144 Oct 6, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>Stop getting your news from Fox and you would know who. EVERYONE
who is everyone ? is there proof or is there just theory, speculation, assumptions. george, im not a democrat and i dont watch chris matthews nor rachael.
beautifulmind

Heraklion, Greece

#26145 Oct 6, 2013
bacon hater wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure he can. They always pass through the Senate. But NOTHING gets through the tea bagger-controlled House. Seriously, nothing. Like not even tea bagger bills - because there's plenty of Republicans that know the dumb tea baggers are just the Taliban and won't let them do anything either. You can blame the president that saved our economy, created double the jobs Bush did, dropped unemployment, avenged 9/11, killed bin Laden, save the auto industry, increased deportations, overhauled our failed medical system and ended our illegal wars, but the rest of us that live in reality will blame those at fault - the dumb tea baggers.
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can't you say anything else??
George

United States

#26146 Oct 6, 2013
fitness-guru wrote:
<quoted text>who is everyone ? is there proof or is there just theory, speculation, assumptions. george, im not a democrat and i dont watch chris matthews nor rachael.
With the current bunch of selfish,childish Republicans in office a default is almost certain. You can just watch and see what happens. The damage it will cause can never be undone. It will be catastrophic.
beautifulmind

Heraklion, Greece

#26147 Oct 6, 2013
Mgtn Res wrote:
A question: Is there a problem with having an honest debate on the issues of our country without all the name calling and belittling of others?
not by people with a maturity level the equivalent of a middle schooler lol
beautifulmind

Heraklion, Greece

#26148 Oct 6, 2013
fitness-guru wrote:
<quoted text>not true. proof is today. "catastrope" nonsense. our govenment is shut down and we are still humming along. fat cat bloated government. looks like we dont need em.
don't speak too soon. the full effects of a government shutdown does not happen instantly. give it time to fester.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26149 Oct 6, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>With the current bunch of selfish,childish Republicans in office a default is almost certain. You can just watch and see what happens. The damage it will cause can never be undone. It will be catastrophic.
doom and gloom. i gotta get a load of this catastrophic chit your talking about. what will happen first george ?
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26150 Oct 6, 2013
do you have anxiety george. fear of the unknown stuff. projecting doom and stuff like that ? what kind of meds are you on. are they helping ?
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26151 Oct 6, 2013
beautifulmind wrote:
<quoted text>
don't speak too soon. the full effects of a government shutdown does not happen instantly. give it time to fester.
i love that word "fester". hehhee, look at the bright side of things .. obama has ruined the economy by shutting down the bloated gov. and we can use it against him next year when we fill the senate and congress with independants/teaparty/republic ans and can get this country moving again because obamas ideas suck. none of them work especially his 7 trillion is is again wanting.
Meat Blower

Fairmont, WV

#26152 Oct 6, 2013
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beautifulmind

Heraklion, Greece

#26153 Oct 6, 2013
fitness-guru wrote:
<quoted text>i love that word "fester". hehhee, look at the bright side of things .. obama has ruined the economy by shutting down the bloated gov. and we can use it against him next year when we fill the senate and congress with independants/teaparty/republic ans and can get this country moving again because obamas ideas suck. none of them work especially his 7 trillion is is again wanting.
i hope you're right!

but the next presidential race seems so far away! who knows what damage can be done by 2016. i say we (the people) go ahead and impeach his a** we need new people in government, everyone can see that. Those that have become corrupt or brainwashed, bought and sold, they need to go. they have no interest in helping us or doing what is best for America. >:( they're Imbeciles!
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26154 Oct 6, 2013
spending your way out of debt. very interesting. sounds like that dumb biatch ... obamas wife, whats her name ? is balancing the checkbook. shes screwed up too. you know what ? i think shes a tranvestite. im not chitting you.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26155 Oct 6, 2013
holy chit !!! i googled .. is obamas wife a transvestite !! my god folks. a whole page !
Weird Harold

Fairmont, WV

#26156 Oct 6, 2013
fitness-guru wrote:
spending your way out of debt. very interesting. sounds like that dumb biatch ... obamas wife, whats her name ? is balancing the checkbook. shes screwed up too. you know what ? i think shes a tranvestite. im not chitting you.
She is Moe because she slaps around the other two morons. The president is Curly because he is actually stupid enough to crack a walnut with his teeth, throw away the meat, and eat the shell. And the Vice President is Shemp, Shemp Biden.
George

United States

#26157 Oct 6, 2013
fitness-guru wrote:
<quoted text>doom and gloom. i gotta get a load of this catastrophic chit your talking about. what will happen first george ?
From Forbes.
There is talk that the Mr. Obama has rights under section 4 of the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling or issue an order to get interest paid. Legal scholars remain sharply divided on presidential constitutional authorities granted. Mr. Obama disregarded the constitution and rule of law by unilaterally extending Affordable Care Act a year for corporations. If he wants to pay interest, he can.

Why the U.S. Will Not Miss a Single Payment

The short answer is we cannot afford the repercussions of what a true default would mean. Worldwide there are hundreds of billions or trillions of overnight repurchase agreements or repo’s between banks that use our Treasurys as the collateral for these short term loans. Second, large banks such As JP Morgan (JPM), Bank of America BAC +0.36%(BAC), and Citibank (C) hold a significant percentage of their reserves in Treasury securities. Were the value of Treasury’s to fall sharply due to a default or even a perceived default, it would make what happened in 2008 after the Lehman debacle look like a children’s exercise. If the Treasurys for repos became suspect and unacceptable as collateral, financial markets would effectively collapse and be shuttered. The other corollary is that as the value as Treasurys sink, banks capital ratios get punished and may go below statutory limits. If there were an actual default then banks would illegally be holding a defaulted instrument as part of their primary capital. Pension funds and other institutions are by charter often not allowed to hold defaulted bonds. Runs on banks would soon follow and a massive recession would result. It is a nightmare scenario too horrible to contemplate.

Get the gist of what will happen? I know Karl is probably saying everything will be fine, but you might want to consider the source.
Weird Harold

Fairmont, WV

#26158 Oct 6, 2013
George wrote:
<quoted text>From Forbes.
There is talk that the Mr. Obama has rights under section 4 of the 14th amendment to raise the debt ceiling or issue an order to get interest paid. Legal scholars remain sharply divided on presidential constitutional authorities granted. Mr. Obama disregarded the constitution and rule of law by unilaterally extending Affordable Care Act a year for corporations. If he wants to pay interest, he can.
Why the U.S. Will Not Miss a Single Payment
The short answer is we cannot afford the repercussions of what a true default would mean. Worldwide there are hundreds of billions or trillions of overnight repurchase agreements or repo’s between banks that use our Treasurys as the collateral for these short term loans. Second, large banks such As JP Morgan (JPM), Bank of America BAC +0.36%(BAC), and Citibank (C) hold a significant percentage of their reserves in Treasury securities. Were the value of Treasury’s to fall sharply due to a default or even a perceived default, it would make what happened in 2008 after the Lehman debacle look like a children’s exercise. If the Treasurys for repos became suspect and unacceptable as collateral, financial markets would effectively collapse and be shuttered. The other corollary is that as the value as Treasurys sink, banks capital ratios get punished and may go below statutory limits. If there were an actual default then banks would illegally be holding a defaulted instrument as part of their primary capital. Pension funds and other institutions are by charter often not allowed to hold defaulted bonds. Runs on banks would soon follow and a massive recession would result. It is a nightmare scenario too horrible to contemplate.
Get the gist of what will happen? I know Karl is probably saying everything will be fine, but you might want to consider the source.
Ostooge will do anything that he wants to and the ignorant sheeple like you will cream your jeans over him.
fitness-guru

Norman, OK

#26159 Oct 6, 2013
george. forbes is liberal. and its an opinion.

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