Who do you support for U.S. Senate in West Virginia in 2010?

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“My morals return with sunrise”

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Night Crawler 104 wrote:
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Zimmerman!!
Iraq!!
Afghanistan!!
57 States!!
Guillory!!
Palin!!
G Dubya!!
Intercontinental Railroad!!
Corpsemen!!
Why are you listing all your party's giant screw-ups?
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Hey look! not a single difference made!
republicratards!
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I did look up about Bacon Haters claim about being able to pay taxes without social security numbers on the social security web site and IRS website. And you can pay taxes without it at the end of the year. But you have to be a LEGAL immigrant with a work or student visa. Aother way is that a relative can claim you if your a immigrant with legal status. Nowhere does it state about paying taxes as a illegal immigrant.

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bacon hater wrote:
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Why are you listing all your party's giant screw-ups?
No, just pointing out once again your party's ignorance and cowardice.
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Taxes and social services[edit source | editbeta]
Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion per year into Social Security.[114]
A paper in the peer reviewed Tax Lawyer journal from the American Bar Association asserts that illegal immigrants contribute more in taxes than they cost in social services.[115] However, The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reviewed 29 reports published over 15 years to evaluate the impact of illegal immigrants on the budgets of state and local governments, and found that the tax revenues that illegal immigrants generate for state and local governments do not offset the total cost of services provided to those immigrants, though the report speculated that the impact of illegal immigrants on state and local budgets was likely to be modest.[116]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigrat...

Bacon wins again!
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Wikipedia is a guide. Not a source for facts. Anyone can edit it.
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Moo wrote:
Wikipedia is a guide. Not a source for facts. Anyone can edit it.
OK Mooo, prove it, go edit and get back with me:)
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Wow wrote:
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That was dumb
The you do do it or don't say ANYONE can edit it, smart as*
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Melissa wrote:
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The you do do it or don't say ANYONE can edit it, smart as*
That made no sense.
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#24908
Sep 17, 2013
 
Does anyone know if this FEMA stuff is true that they have all over utube.
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#24909
Sep 17, 2013
 
I just moved up here and hell this has got me wanting to go back. But the way its looking your not gonna be safe no where.
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Sep 17, 2013
 
Melissa wrote:
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The you do do it or don't say ANYONE can edit it, smart as*
does anyone know any thing about this fema3 thats invovles west virgina, virgina,pennsylvania.

“My morals return with sunrise”

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Moo wrote:
Wikipedia is a guide. Not a source for facts. Anyone can edit it.
You're an idiot. No one can edit it but one of Wikipedia's 175 staff members. Users can SUGGEST edits and if they're credibly verified, they may appear. Wikipedia isn't a "guide." It's verified information that includes EVERY SOURCE so the user can personally verify. Wikipedia should never be a cited as a formal source for that reason - the original source is listed as a link at the bottom of the page. But it's perfect to quickly link to show people an accumulation of facts that they can verify if they don't agree. That's why it's so effective for online forums. Linking to 6 sources takes time when you can link to the Wikipedia article and present all 6 sources quickly.

In this case all the data I presented came from the IRS, GAO, different states' tax departments, ICE, Social Security Administration and the US Census. It'd take forever to link to those individual pages. Unnecessary when it's just common knowledge used to show a dumb tea bagger how stupid they are.

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Melissa wrote:
Taxes and social services[edit source | editbeta]
Illegal immigrants are estimated to pay in about $7 billion per year into Social Security.[114]
A paper in the peer reviewed Tax Lawyer journal from the American Bar Association asserts that illegal immigrants contribute more in taxes than they cost in social services.[115] However, The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office reviewed 29 reports published over 15 years to evaluate the impact of illegal immigrants on the budgets of state and local governments, and found that the tax revenues that illegal immigrants generate for state and local governments do not offset the total cost of services provided to those immigrants, though the report speculated that the impact of illegal immigrants on state and local budgets was likely to be modest.[116]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illegal_immigrat...
Bacon wins again!
*shayks hed*
drug deelers & chyld sex slayv traydurs pay taxes two ....... aint their any deducktive reasuning ona yuns sydes of the eye-uls?!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

frig my lifes
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Well Duh

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Sep 17, 2013
 
This is crazy. I looked up on the IRS and social security sites on the laws. So if we have a stat on ILLEGAL immigrants paying taxes, then our own governmant has broken the law.

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Sep 17, 2013
 
Well Duh wrote:
This is crazy. I looked up on the IRS and social security sites on the laws. So if we have a stat on ILLEGAL immigrants paying taxes, then our own governmant has broken the law.
Why? If someone is working on a Visa, gets his paycheck with taxes taken out and overstays it, it isn't illegal to take those taxes. Most of these people who overstay their visas aren't at fault - our immigration system is slow and filled with red-tape. Both parties, again, agree on that. If you came here legally, got a good job because you were educated and skilled (impossible, I know) bought a home and built a life for your family and children and your Visa expired because of paperwork, you wouldn't just abandon ship. You'd stay as long as it took to get through the system. You're duped into thinking illegal immigrants are all Mexican cartel drug dealers or nomadic workers who steal, stab and rape. You're easy to dupe though. MOST ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WORK< PAY TAXES AND CONTRIBUTE. Sorry, it's a fact. Bitch about real problems, not problems that the real crooks want you to bitch about.
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Sep 17, 2013
 
What is funny about Melissa's site even said that the money they supposedly pay does not offset for the services they recieve. So she helps the case to get rid of these lawbreakers. So look at the social security and IRS sites as I have and along with Melissa's and they just prove the point. They are breaking all kinds of laws. Thank you Melissa for helping prove the point.
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Sep 17, 2013
 
Bacon Hater.....you just prove my point even more. We were talking about the ones that came over illegally. Now you want to change directions. It is the responsibility of the ones that came over legally on a visa knows their time limit. So if they are dumb enough to buy a home without citizenship, then that is their own stupidity. So now you want to talk about the lawbreakers that come here under false pretense of being here temporary with the intensions of never leaving. You just back liars and cheats. But that is expected sense you back Obama
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Oh get off the computer and "go make a difference" somewhere else this is my topix!
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Sep 17, 2013
 
Well Duh wrote:
What is funny about Melissa's site even said that the money they supposedly pay does not offset for the services they recieve. So she helps the case to get rid of these lawbreakers. So look at the social security and IRS sites as I have and along with Melissa's and they just prove the point. They are breaking all kinds of laws. Thank you Melissa for helping prove the point.
No you're missing the point. They are definitely breaking the law, no one will argue that. That's why both parties are trying to change the laws to give the majority of them who do work and pay taxes and contribute a fair chance to stay here legally. Because the ones who do pay get very little, if any, government benefits. Instead they are overshadowed by the minority who aren't contributing. Most deserve to stay, and only benefit this nation. The rest need to go. The reason why we can't get the laws changed is because stupid people (like you and George) think "they're all just criminals and should be deported." That's a stupid notion, is impossible and benefits no one. We have to pass immigration reform so we can begin rewarding the honest, hard workers who only want a life for their families versus the criminal who want to take advantage. But as long as idiot tea baggers throw a blanket over the problem, it'll ever happen.

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