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Victoria

Sparta, NC

#52038 Apr 25, 2014
TSF wrote:
Yes, I am a believer. The dinosaurs were extinct long before any man appeared on this planet to make any kind of history, written or otherwise recording such an event. Yes I believe in evolution and natural selection. No, I do not see a conflict in that belief and the scriptures of the New or Old Testaments. God created present creatures and man by natural selection and evolution. That method was just as magical as the "presto " method that fundamentalist demand that God had to have used to conform to their dogma.
Yes, there have been floods of what was known as the world. Yes, the Ark and its dimensions are described in the Bible, It would not have been able to contain two of all the dinosaurs , even if they had been still in existence.
God gave man intelligence to explore and understand his surroundings. God expects man to use that intelligence rather than blindly accepting the words of charlatans claiming to know the mind of God and his methods.
God does not favor ignorance or stupidity. Colonial preachers and judges were convicting people of "witchcraft" and "Satanism" because of unusual events happening during a particularly wet summer. Their ignorance of science prevented them from understanding that an ergot mold growing on the rye that year was producing lysergic acid in their primary food supply. I suspect that the perpetrators of the witchcraft craziness are presently in dire need for a drink of ice water.
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That was lovely & very interesting. I knew nothing about that last part.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52039 Apr 25, 2014
Waco 9999 wrote:
Victoria is simply wrong.
As usual.
Statistics prove that black murder rate is much higher than white murder rate.
Even in poor white areas.
Funny.
"Lies, damn lies and statistics" Mark Twain
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#52040 Apr 25, 2014
Redundant Right Wing talking point is pure bunk:

"What [George] Will,[Shelby] Steele and [Buffoon] O'Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.

In fact, all races share similar ratios. Yet there's no outrage or racialized debate about "white on white" violence. Instead, the myth and associated fear of "black on black" crime is sold as a legitimate, mainstream descriptive and becomes American status quo."
Waco 9999

Lenoir, NC

#52041 Apr 25, 2014
Victoria wrote:
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I'm not wrong. The comment was that I wondered why people who make excuses for RW racists always use the unrelated "black on black" argument that has nothing to do with the racist remark. So many RWers have used it that I am always anticipating it.
I am correct. You go to a bad white area of the South where there are white people who are poor, drug-addicted and come from dysfunctional homes and the majority of crimes there are white on white. But beyond that, just dragging up the unrelated "black on black" RW talking point does not justify the racist words of a racist.
No one race of people holds the moral high ground. People are people. Some are good & some are bad (& accuse others of horrific things based on their own small-mindedness).
. No matter where, whites are not butchering one another like black people are.
Poor, rich, doesn't matter.
Waco 9999

Lenoir, NC

#52042 Apr 25, 2014
State of Florida wrote:
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"Lies, damn lies and statistics" Mark Twain
. Exactly! Unfortunately, as you have often told me, sometimes statistics are right on!
Waco 9999

Lenoir, NC

#52043 Apr 25, 2014
Victoria wrote:
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Like Reagan's war on drugs? Whoops! Not a Democrat!
White people wallow in drugs & murder in small towns and rural areas all over the South. My, my.....your racist remark isn't quite as absolute as you had hoped.
My statement is absolute truth.
Whites also have drug and murder problems.
But not NEARLY AS BAD!
You just don't want to help these people get free of drugs.
Why? Afraid it might cost some money?
Job training. Education.
The inner cities must have jobs and OPPORTUNITY!
Can't you see that?
Let's quit ignoring our problems.
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#52044 Apr 25, 2014
Waco 9999 wrote:
<quoted text>. No matter where, whites are not butchering one another like black people are.
Poor, rich, doesn't matter.
Actually, they are.

How does these two facts fit into your RW spin condemning just blacks?

Race Matters: Study Claims White Men Are More Likely To Commit Mass Murders Than Blacks Or Any Other Racial Group

Study shows White Men are more likely to be Serial Murderers than any other racial group
Rock

Franklin, NC

#52045 Apr 25, 2014
State of Florida wrote:
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Barry Goldwater campaigned in the 1964 Presidential election agaist Johnson for an escalation in the Viet Nam war.
Damn. Not much of a choice there... LBJ getting us into the war more or Goldwater wanting to double down on a pointless bloodbath...
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#52046 Apr 25, 2014
Waco 9999 wrote:
<quoted text> My statement is absolute truth.
Whites also have drug and murder problems.
But not NEARLY AS BAD!
You just don't want to help these people get free of drugs.
Why? Afraid it might cost some money?
Job training. Education.
The inner cities must have jobs and OPPORTUNITY!
Can't you see that?
Let's quit ignoring our problems.
I'm not the one who votes to screw poor people over. That's the Republicans that does that. I vote for my taxes to be raised to help ALL people out of poverty. I don't vote for another round of tax cuts for the extremely rich. You do.

YOUR party votes to cut social programs and food stamps for families with children so that billionaires can get another round of tax cuts.

You vote to ignore our country's problems every time you vote Republican.
Waco 9999

Lenoir, NC

#52047 Apr 25, 2014
Victoria wrote:
Redundant Right Wing talking point is pure bunk:
"What [George] Will,[Shelby] Steele and [Buffoon] O'Reilly failed to mention is the exacting truth that white Americans are just as likely to be killed by other whites. According to Justice Department statistics (pdf), 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites.
In fact, all races share similar ratios. Yet there's no outrage or racialized debate about "white on white" violence. Instead, the myth and associated fear of "black on black" crime is sold as a legitimate, mainstream descriptive and becomes American status quo."
You're ignoring the facts. White people are likely to be killed by other white people.
True.
But check the statistics.
Who is more likely to be murdered in America?
A black person, or a white person?
A black person is more likely to be murdered.
Have you ever lived in an inner city mostly black area?
I have.
What did I see?
I saw good people trying to live in impossible conditions.
No jobs hardly.
But they still tried to live normal lives, even with all the shooting.
The stabbings.
The fights. And of course the drugs.
There was a strangeness to it.
Like a warzone.
But there was still church, there was still school for those who stuck it out.
You could do everything right there..... And still get killed.
No job training. No jobs. No opportunity, mainly.
Always, the drugs. Drugs meant money, in a place where money was otherwise very, very tight.
So I didn't blame anybody there, for selling drugs.
Just wished it could have been replaced by jobs.
There's another reason almost nobody there had a job.
Guess that's another story....


Waco 9999

Lenoir, NC

#52048 Apr 25, 2014
Victoria wrote:
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I'm not the one who votes to screw poor people over. That's the Republicans that does that. I vote for my taxes to be raised to help ALL people out of poverty. I don't vote for another round of tax cuts for the extremely rich. You do.
YOUR party votes to cut social programs and food stamps for families with children so that billionaires can get another round of tax cuts.
You vote to ignore our country's problems every time you vote Republican.
Ironic.I voted twice for Obama.
There has to be a way to help people gain jobs.
Whether they live in Appalachia, or inner city somewhere.
The politicians talk.
Nothing happens.
We have billionaires on both sides..... who could help more, I think.
Waco 9999

Lenoir, NC

#52049 Apr 25, 2014
The reason almost no one from the inner city, or ANY high crime area, can get a job, is the word "felon".
Put" felon "on your job application.
And forget getting a job.
If you are a felon, non-violent, there are cities where you can't even rent an apartment.
You can automatically kiss off getting a job.
I know a guy who got 45 days in jail twenty years ago, on some bs minor league felony.
But, it's still a" felony ".
Guy had worked all his life.
Never got a job after he got that felony.
Lived off the state, until he hung himself.
Waco 9999

Lenoir, NC

#52050 Apr 25, 2014
Victoria "your" party and "my" party ain't cutting it. One works against the other.
"We" could accomplish...... anything.....
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52051 Apr 25, 2014
Rock wrote:
<quoted text> Boomer... Try not to White Knight for two damn seconds... I know it's hard for you... I'll respond to your questions and her's apart from each other. Do you have a specific question boomer?
Why yes, Rock. Show me the quote of Jesus that I said was right and you wanted a retraction on. Also, Jesus expressed socialism in his basic philosophy. I would like to discuss this with you since many conservatives believe that liberals are the worlds 'heathen". Let's roll. First, let's go with the quote in question.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52052 Apr 25, 2014
Waco 9999 wrote:
Victoria "your" party and "my" party ain't cutting it. One works against the other.
"We" could accomplish...... anything.....
That's a cop out. Which party is doing more the the American people with their policies? State your case.
State of Florida

Taylorsville, NC

#52053 Apr 25, 2014
Waco 9999 wrote:
The reason almost no one from the inner city, or ANY high crime area, can get a job, is the word "felon".
Put" felon "on your job application.
And forget getting a job.
If you are a felon, non-violent, there are cities where you can't even rent an apartment.
You can automatically kiss off getting a job.
I know a guy who got 45 days in jail twenty years ago, on some bs minor league felony.
But, it's still a" felony ".
Guy had worked all his life.
Never got a job after he got that felony.
Lived off the state, until he hung himself.
I personally know a local Town Council member and County Commissioner who are both convicted felons and it is public knowledge. One served his term in state prison and the other in federal. Both are currently serving. Both started their own business. One is a lecturer in a college that you know. Both are Republicans.
Ben

Lenoir, NC

#52054 Apr 25, 2014
Victoria wrote:
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Actually, they are.
How does these two facts fit into your RW spin condemning just blacks?
Race Matters: Study Claims White Men Are More Likely To Commit Mass Murders Than Blacks Or Any Other Racial Group
Study shows White Men are more likely to be Serial Murderers than any other racial group
Where and post the link.
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#52055 Apr 25, 2014
Ben wrote:
<quoted text>Where and post the link.
Google it. They are both well known facts.
Ben

Lenoir, NC

#52056 Apr 25, 2014
"Charlotte and Harriet write:“Nearly all of the mass shootings in this country in recent years—not just Newtown, Aurora, Fort Hood, Tucson and Columbine—have been committed by white men and boys.”

The thing is there have been mass shootings (when two or more people were shot) committed by non-white Americans. Here are a few from 2012: Jeong Soo Paek, a Korean American, killed four people at a health spa in Norcross, Georgia; Travis Lamonte Steed, a black man, started a gun fight in a night club in Jackson, Tenn., that resulted in one death and 16 injuries; Su Nam Ko, a Korean American, killed seven people at Oikos University in Oakland, Calif.; Otis Phillips, a black man, was reportedly involved in a shooting that left two dead at a soccer tournament in Wilmington, Delaware; Radcliffe Frankin Haughton, a black man, killed three at a spa in Brookfield, Wisconsin; Jacob Tyler Roberts, an Hispanic man, killed two people at a mall near Portland, Oregon.
Also, while Adam Lanza, the killer at Sandy Hook Elementary, and some other notable mass killers were white, other famous mass murderers have been Asian, black or Latino. Seung-Hui Cho, the Virginia Tech killer, was a Korean American. John Allen Muhammad, aka “the D.C. sniper,” was black." Toke,toke,toke
Victoria

Sparta, NC

#52057 Apr 25, 2014
Waco 9999 wrote:
Victoria "your" party and "my" party ain't cutting it. One works against the other.
"We" could accomplish...... anything.....
I have to say that you've got a lot of nerve. First you falsely accuse me & another poster of wanting to execute people, which is disgustingly hateful & evil, and then you have the audacity to say to me that "we" could accomplish anything? And that "my" party & "your" party ain't cutting it?

It is the height of hypocrisy, that is for sure. But that's something I've come to expect from you.

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