Poverty rise reflects toll of recessi...

Poverty rise reflects toll of recession | The Columbus Dispatch

There are 243 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Sep 17, 2010, titled Poverty rise reflects toll of recession | The Columbus Dispatch. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

The U.S. rate jumped to 14.3 percent last year. Ohio's rate is lower, but it has climbed for most of the past eight years, and real incomes keep sliding.

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Lfod

Defiance, OH

#3 Sep 17, 2010
Wait till the bill comes for bozo's deficit spending spree. Hopey dopey baby!
YOU people

Columbus, OH

#4 Sep 17, 2010
Lfod wrote:
Wait till the bill comes for bozo's deficit spending spree. Hopey dopey baby!
What part of "it climbed for each of the PAST EIGHT YEARS", didn't YOU understand, Lfool?
Old Timer

AOL

#5 Sep 17, 2010
Well folks, get used to crying, and crying a lot. If the current trend of political officials fighting for power continues, it gets worse.

Maybe we can extend the tax cuts for you working poor, and not fund schools because even though education is the basis for a strong economic system, we refuse to pay for your kids. The jobs we are bringing have a hidden benefit. If you make $11 per hour with a family of four, and your kids are in school, they get to eat their lunches for free.

As for poverty, Congess can eliminate it in a week. Do what they do in Bangladesh, and declare poverty to be a wage earner making less than $4.50 per hour, and the problem is solved. After all, in education we are in a race to the top, but in our socio-economic situation, it is a race to the bottom. And that is the way it should be...survival of the fittest..aka, "Grizzlies". Do what they do, live off of bear meat and fresh caught salmon (plus oil subsidies) and all will be good in the USA.

God bless America, and those who think correctly, harbor ill will to all who are not white, and married couples who have incomes greater than $250,000.
ohio lawyer

Columbus, OH

#6 Sep 17, 2010
This newspaper's editorial response? Only 55 percent of Amercans now have employer-provided health insurance. Editorial editor Glenn Sheller wrote a column calling Democrats' attempt to respond to that massive crisis "tyranny". Then again, this paper also applauded Bob Taft's revenue cuts that needlessly threw Ohioans off of Medicaid, a program of last resort for the disabled and poorest of the poor.

I wish the publisher of this paper would spend some substantial time talking to those who work with the poor and uninsured on a daily basis. And talking to those people themselves. Because if he did, I think he'd be hard pressed to put his name on the masthead of this newspaper's editorial page.
ohio lawyer

Columbus, OH

#7 Sep 17, 2010
Meanwhile, since the right first came to power, the share of wealth concentrated in the hands of the richest Americans has jumped dramatically. GOP tax cuts for the rich under Bush cost the Treasury $2 trillion we didnt have -- and for what good purpose? Now McConnell and Boehner want to funnel even more revenues to the richest by extending those irresponsible tax cuts.

And this newspaper's editorial and endorsement teams will do everything in their power to put McConnell and Boehner in positions of power. Heaven forbid that The Dispatch editorial page ever hold a Republican accountable.
the truth

Greenbrier, AR

#8 Sep 17, 2010
Thanks DNC and ODC

Ted is with Obama and the rest of the kill America hate the USA left kill jobs and grandma.

Nov is comming to a vote near you

After we clean the swamp of the DNC and RINOS lets take back all of their perks they covent so well and let them feel the pain we all feel
the truth

Greenbrier, AR

#9 Sep 17, 2010
It is not a ression but a depression!

the Obama and DNC depression of no hope with change no one wants until Nov
Macktrapper

Newark, OH

#10 Sep 17, 2010
ohio lawyer wrote:
Meanwhile, since the right first came to power, the share of wealth concentrated in the hands of the richest Americans has jumped dramatically. GOP tax cuts for the rich under Bush cost the Treasury $2 trillion we didnt have -- and for what good purpose? Now McConnell and Boehner want to funnel even more revenues to the richest by extending those irresponsible tax cuts.
And this newspaper's editorial and endorsement teams will do everything in their power to put McConnell and Boehner in positions of power. Heaven forbid that The Dispatch editorial page ever hold a Republican accountable.
The wealth is in the hands of the rich because they earned it.
You seem in favor of taking money from those who earned it and handing it to those who have not earned it.
Tax cuts are not "funneling more revenue" to anyone. They allow you to keep what you rightfully earned, and should be able to keep anyway.

Your communist views are showing through again.

Glad to see you back though.
the truth

Greenbrier, AR

#11 Sep 17, 2010
ohio lawyer wrote:
Meanwhile, since the right first came to power, the share of wealth concentrated in the hands of the richest Americans has jumped dramatically. GOP tax cuts for the rich under Bush cost the Treasury $2 trillion we didnt have -- and for what good purpose? Now McConnell and Boehner want to funnel even more revenues to the richest by extending those irresponsible tax cuts.
And this newspaper's editorial and endorsement teams will do everything in their power to put McConnell and Boehner in positions of power. Heaven forbid that The Dispatch editorial page ever hold a Republican accountable.
When people keep what they earned they reinvest it which brings jobs like Bush you hate evene after 911 when everything tanked jobs came back not like under you marxist with Obama driving the USA in the drink right out of Cloward and Pivons. The voters are going to have our say Nov 2nd and send you and the man child packing to gitmo.
towncryer

Uniontown, OH

#12 Sep 17, 2010
Strickland is responsible for this dismal report. His failed policies are ruining the state.
Rupert

Loveland, OH

#13 Sep 17, 2010
I'm assuming this is good news for Obama, it sounds like his voting bloc just increased.
hog2561

Chillicothe, OH

#14 Sep 17, 2010
they keep raising everything it is no wonder. the rich get rich the poor get poorer.
Lucky

Nashport, OH

#15 Sep 17, 2010
The poorest Americans are on easy street compared those living in most other places on the this planet.Be thankfull you live in a safe and free environment.Just look at Sudan,Somalia,and any of the lawless African countries where the children are lucky to see the sunrise live in fear of death squads,forced labor,and famine. Oh yea most of these places are being ruled by muslim despots and gangs of muslim thugs,such tolerant people.America is sooo awful.......?
Lex

Orient, OH

#16 Sep 17, 2010
Macktrapper wrote:
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The wealth is in the hands of the rich because they earned it.
You seem in favor of taking money from those who earned it and handing it to those who have not earned it.
Tax cuts are not "funneling more revenue" to anyone. They allow you to keep what you rightfully earned, and should be able to keep anyway.
Your communist views are showing through again.
Glad to see you back though.
What universe are you living in? Obviously, you haven't been doing any reading - just listening Flush (Toilet) LimpBang. Try Predator State, by James Galbraith; Crisis Economics by Nouriel Roubini; Nanny State by Dean Baker; Conservatives without Conscience by John Dean; and dozens of others written by Economists who aren't paid by special interests and corporations.
Michael Milkin is "rich". Did he earn it? Jack Abramoff is rich. Did he earn it? Bob Taft is rich. Did he earn it? The CDO traders at Goldman Sachs are rich. Did they earn that ... by sabotaging the world economy ... merely because what they did was not yet illegal? Get real. The tax code is rigged so that business people get to deduct for almost everything they eat, drink, wear, drive, fly, sit in, etc.
You have a warped sense of what is "earning". Our economy was stabile while we regulated capitalism. But the "rich" couldn't "earn" as much as they wanted. So they paid off (free speech) Congressman to change the laws and they paid off (free speech) Presidents to encourage regulators to back off. Voila ... S&L Crisis in the 1980s; Shadow Banking Crisis in the 2000's.
In the meantime, infrastructure goes down the toilet ... starting principally with Ronald Retard ... America becomes the great exporter of all things WAR AND THREAT ...and the welfare institutions (did you know that public welfare is acknowledged in the Constitution) that were put in place to force (yes, because the church and the charities couldn't handle it) the rich (many of whom had dubious sources) to share with the poor in order to mitigate societal unrest or suffering.
You conservatives don't give a @#$%^! about anyone except yourselves, your perfect families, and your perfect friends at your clubs or your gated communities.
Tom

Palo Alto, CA

#17 Sep 17, 2010
I am getting tired of all the Obama apologists, Rachel Madcow fans, and left wing idiots who want to "fundamentally transform" the richest and most powerful nation this world has ever seen.

Under their views all of a sudden any white person is racist and stupid. Oh, but those people burning the American flag, chanting "death to America", and building Mosques next to Ground Zero in spite of heavy opposition represent a "peace loving" religion that wants to build bridges. Under their view the rich are evil and Capitalism is the worst thing in the world but fail to see that rich people employ them, most have earned their way to where they are, and Capitalism...even when not perfect, has taken this country to where we are. Under their view all minorities are always right and white people are evil. They claim to be helping minorities from racism but fail to see a president who attended a racist church for 20 years, who has surrounded himself with extremists and communists, and whose own wife said that the first time she felt proud to be an American was when her husband was elected president.

While poverty is a terrible thing, there are better ways to help than just perpetual "hand outs". If there is one country in the world where somebody with a lot of drive and conviction can make it, it is the U.S. No other country offers so many opportunities to succeed and it frankly bothers me to death when we get perpetual complainers and people whining that "they don't have and others do".

We are broke. With Obama's deficit projections in 10 years the interest on our debt will be the number one expense for our government...even higher than our defense budget. But Democrats and Rachel Madcow are more interested in reporting that "Palin is stupid and Glenn Beck is dumb". That is what they are focused on. Pathetic.

I know Republicans have a lot of fault too. We need to wake up, America, and take our country back. Republican mishandling doesn't justify Obama's radical solutions and views. Judge the man by what he is doing and his results. Even if he has good intentions his policies are not working, are getting us deeper in the hole (at least in the long run) and his socialist views don't work.

And before you start calling me names I must tell you that I am actually Hispanic and a legal immigrant to this country (22 years ago) who has managed to succeed due to all the opportunities this country has given me. I came here with an attitude of thanksgiving for the opportunity and not with the attitude of "give me give me" that Democrats defend so much. And yes, I am against illegal immigration...figure that.
AmberDru

Columbus, OH

#18 Sep 17, 2010
It's disingenuous to lament the poverty rate while advocating for millions of poor illegal aliens to be legalized.

E-verify and the Save Act would free up some jobs.
numbersusa.com

Free health care comes at a price
Are illegal residents' medical bills a moral obligation or an undue burden on taxpayers?
Tuesday, September 9, 2008 3:09 AM
BY STEPHANIE CZEKALINSKI AND JILL RIEPENHOFF
THE COLUMBUS DISPATCH

...Though Maria's husband works full time in a factory and pays income taxes, he does not have health insurance. The couple moved from Mexico six years ago.{ Did he chose not to pay for coverage? Does not say coverage is not offered. Why buy it when you can get it for FREE}

We are simultaneously told Americans don't do those jobs- construction, factory work, cleaning, restaurant, fast food, warehouse and then the media features Americans who do "those jobs".

Enforcing existing laws would free up a lot of work.
brat

Bellefontaine, OH

#19 Sep 17, 2010
only one on twelve, so far, responded to the topic of the article. there's central ohellho education in action for you.
the current economy is a reflection of many years and administrations both republican and democratic.
the bottom line is that in addition to the 14% in poverty, there are another 14% on the brink where one small thing will send them over the edge. those you cite, old timer, are exactly the ones who need to be spending which will help move the economy in the correct direction.
Lucky

Nashport, OH

#20 Sep 17, 2010
Folks we all know the government has spent over a "Tillion dollars",the last 40 plus years fighting the war on poverty. It has now become more apparent than ever,you just can't polish a turd,no matter how hard you try.
AmberDru

Columbus, OH

#21 Sep 17, 2010
Are these "poor" included in the stats ?

Jury finds shop manager guilty of food-stamp fraud
Sixth defendant to be convicted in $4million scheme

Shuceeb Geedi, 51, showed no emotion as bailiff Andy Quisumbing read the verdicts in U.S. District Court in Columbus

Geedi was released on his own recognizance. A sentencing date has not been set. He could be sent to prison for 80 years.

He was found guilty on all charges - fraud, money laundering, conspiracy and theft - for exchanging food stamps and Women, Infants and Children program vouchers for cash and phone cards at two Columbus markets.

Other stores involved in the scheme were the Ohio Grocery and Halal Meats, 2815 Cleveland Ave., and Muna Market, 3770 W.

Broad St.

Five others involved in the scheme have pleaded guilty and been sentenced:

• Zeidi Said Omar, unlawful food-stamp redemption and failure to file income tax. He was sentenced to six months house arrest and ordered to pay $200,000 in restitution.

• Ali Ahmed Said, conspiracy and fraud; sentenced to six months house arrest and six months in a halfway house and ordered to pay $200,000 in restitution.

• Mohamed Hussein, fraud and filing a false tax return; sentenced to six months house arrest and six months in a halfway house and ordered to pay $486,589 in restitution.

• Ahmed S. Jama, fraud and filing a false tax return; sentenced to six months house arrest and six months in a halfway house and ordered to pay $135,000 in restitution.

• Abdulhakim Said Abukar, conspiracy and fraud; sentenced to six months house arrest and ordered to pay $66,666 in restitution.

Two other defendants, Khalif Mohamed Abukar and Saidi Kadi Sheikuna, remain at large.
reality check

Columbus, OH

#22 Sep 17, 2010
I for one hope the Republicans win the argument we're having about extending the tax cuts.

Sure, Obama's plan would extend the tax cuts for the poor and middle class -- up to $250,000.

But I hope the Republicans get their way and spend an additional $700 billion or so to extend the tax cuts for the wealthy, too.

I'm pretty sure that will bring Ohio's poverty rate down.

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