Letter

There are 24 comments on the Honolulu Star-Bulletin story from Jul 30, 2008, titled Letter. In it, Honolulu Star-Bulletin reports that:

Important jobs that concern people in service-oriented occupations have been establishing mandatory drug tests.

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Joe

Bangkok, Thailand

#2 Jul 30, 2008
Thank you. Besides Wal-mart, Zippy's also tests for drugs. The federal government has had drug testing for years. What's the problem?
willie

Farmington, MI

#3 Jul 30, 2008
Hey want to actually win the so called war on drugs?

Test EVERYBODY. Anyone who tests positive gets hauled away..end of the war on drugs if there are no users left. Unfortunatly someone would need to figure out where to house 25 - 50% of the population who flunk their wizz quiz.

Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#5 Jul 30, 2008
"Kind strangers aided fallen pedestrian"

by Pat Paakaula
Honolulu

I really worry about our society. I saw on the news where a guy was run over by a car and no one came to his aid. Bystanders just stood there and did nothing. Then he died.

Next there was the lady in the waiting room of a large hospital. She called for help then just fell off her chair onto the floor. No one in the waiting room did anything at all. A few people just walked over her to get a drink of water and sat back down. The hospital and guards saw the lady on the floor over their video, but did nothing and so she finally died on the floor calling for help.

I'm happy to hear you are ok. There is still hope for us then. Good experience.

Aloha
willie

Farmington, MI

#6 Jul 30, 2008
dargent77 wrote:
Willie....stop the Rx medication, please.
Everyone in Hawaii knows ganja is on 80% of everyone's plate and crack on about 40%.
Gee I am suprised you don't use the Hawaiian word paca lolo for marijuana...I mean you living there and all.

Guess sarcasm is not your strong suit...I was trying to make a funny...
willie

Farmington, MI

#8 Jul 30, 2008
Alan Cummings wrote:
<quoted text>
Consideringthat more than half of your postings are out and out nasty remarks, who know whan you are making a funny.
Generally speaking, I am only marginally nasty when replying to your already nasty far out in left field posts. The rest of the time, I am a pretty nice guy.
Joe Morgan

Pearl City, HI

#9 Jul 30, 2008
I would like to know if there will be big parking lots at the train stations for people who ride the rail. These parking lots should be able to hold hundreds or thousands of cars if people are going to use this rail system. Please inform the public on this.
willie

Farmington, MI

#10 Jul 30, 2008
Joe Morgan wrote:
I would like to know if there will be big parking lots at the train stations for people who ride the rail. These parking lots should be able to hold hundreds or thousands of cars if people are going to use this rail system. Please inform the public on this.
No parking lots at all, just lots of bike racks...what kind of environmentalist are you anyway?

Assuming they need massive parking lots assumes a lot of people will actually use it.
Cuckoo

Kamuela, HI

#11 Jul 30, 2008
Ben Ramelb is nuts.
Love Waianae

Aiea, HI

#12 Jul 30, 2008
Joe Morgan wrote:
I would like to know if there will be big parking lots at the train stations for people who ride the rail. These parking lots should be able to hold hundreds or thousands of cars if people are going to use this rail system. Please inform the public on this.
Of course there will be parking lots, just as soon as they condemn enough homes and throw the homeowners out. Then the polititions and handicapped will lay claim to the best rows, and the remaining stalls will provide easy pickings for the chronics and security guards. Business as usual.

Since: Mar 08

Aiea, HI

#13 Jul 30, 2008
Joe Morgan wrote:
I would like to know if there will be big parking lots at the train stations for people who ride the rail. These parking lots should be able to hold hundreds or thousands of cars if people are going to use this rail system. Please inform the public on this.
No. You are expected to stay on Fort Weaver Road until you arrive at the station. Then have a friend drive the car back home until you get off work again.
Yellow Dog

Kaneohe, HI

#14 Jul 30, 2008
Park-and-ride facilities don't have to all that big. We need a transit authority to ensure that buses take people from their neighborhoods to rail stations in a timely and efficient manner, as in other cities.

I worked with the Transit Authority of New York and New Jersey. The integrated system there is very easy to use. You can plan your trip online, using a combination of buses, rail, and ferries to travel around New York, New Jersey and Connecticut. You can choose a route based on whether you want maximum speed, fewest transfers or minimum walking distance. It works great.

Hawaii's system can work even better because it will be less complex.
Definitions

Santa Rosa, CA

#15 Jul 30, 2008
Ben Rameib says "'alternative' implies it is a solution, which is not true." What's not true is Rameib's definition of "alternative." It means a "choice," an "option." Dictionary.com says nothing about Rameib's inventive definition.

Rail will be a choice, an option, an alternative to sitting in traffic. It's not a complicated notion -- not unless you're trying to twist the language to "justify" a point of view. Without the guideway project, there is no alternative to traffic. The City has never claimed otherwise, but some simply refuse or are unable to grasp what the project is intended to do -- be an alternative..
ManoaMidnightMar auder

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#18 Jul 30, 2008
Definitions wrote:
Ben Rameib says "'alternative' implies it is a solution, which is not true." What's not true is Rameib's definition of "alternative." It means a "choice," an "option." Dictionary.com says nothing about Rameib's inventive definition.
Rail will be a choice, an option, an alternative to sitting in traffic. It's not a complicated notion -- not unless you're trying to twist the language to "justify" a point of view. Without the guideway project, there is no alternative to traffic. The City has never claimed otherwise, but some simply refuse or are unable to grasp what the project is intended to do -- be an alternative..
Ditto. An I second both motions. All those in favor say aye...Those opposed? The Ayes have it... Ben Remalb is a nothing more than a P.E.-nothing more, nothing less.(And not even a well-respected one at that) Motion carries.
Bumpercrop

Kailua, HI

#19 Jul 30, 2008
dargent77 wrote:
Willie....stop the Rx medication, please.
Everyone in Hawaii knows ganja is on 80% of everyone's plate and crack on about 40%.
So where do you buy? Inquiring minds would like to know...
Bumpercrop

Kailua, HI

#21 Jul 30, 2008
Joe Morgan wrote:
I would like to know if there will be big parking lots at the train stations for people who ride the rail. These parking lots should be able to hold hundreds or thousands of cars if people are going to use this rail system. Please inform the public on this.
Also need some "parking" lots for the homeless shopping carts so they can ride the train. Or, will they be able to take them on the train and ride to IHS in style?
John

Honolulu, HI

#22 Jul 30, 2008
Definitions wrote:
Ben Rameib says "'alternative' implies it is a solution, which is not true." What's not true is Rameib's definition of "alternative." It means a "choice," an "option." Dictionary.com says nothing about Rameib's inventive definition.
Rail will be a choice, an option, an alternative to sitting in traffic. It's not a complicated notion -- not unless you're trying to twist the language to "justify" a point of view. Without the guideway project, there is no alternative to traffic. The City has never claimed otherwise, but some simply refuse or are unable to grasp what the project is intended to do -- be an alternative..
Ben's point is, "Rail transit is not a "solution" because rail will not reduce traffic, the single and only important reason to build a mass transit system."

He is correct. Our goals for this project as stated by the city engineers is to improve mobility for all commuters. Rail will not improve the mobility for car commuters. According to the city engineering data, rail will not improve the mobility for some bus commuters.

Take a look at these videos from Florida and Minnesota about their solutions for traffic congestion. We could build what they have only on elevated lanes.

http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=JCY02sf9kTM

http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=fPc2z0qPedQ
Stan

Makawao, HI

#23 Jul 30, 2008
Not enough parking at UH or the CCs, not enough at sporting event locations like Aloha Stadium or HS games. Not enough parking down town... No parking in Waikiki or in condos.... NO parking around the capitol. And you think they will have parking at the train stations?????
LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
ManoaMidnightMar auder

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#25 Jul 30, 2008
John wrote:
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Ben's point is, "Rail transit is not a "solution" because rail will not reduce traffic, the single and only important reason to build a mass transit system."
He is correct. Our goals for this project as stated by the city engineers is to improve mobility for all commuters. Rail will not improve the mobility for car commuters. According to the city engineering data, rail will not improve the mobility for some bus commuters.
Take a look at these videos from Florida and Minnesota about their solutions for traffic congestion. We could build what they have only on elevated lanes.
http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=JCY02sf9kTM
http://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=fPc2z0qPedQ
Does Minnesota and Floroida look like Oahu? No.
Do they have 1 MAJOR east-west highway? No.
Do they have limited space to build on? No.
Commuters in both of these states have multiple avenues and roads, and ways of moving about from east to west, north to south, northeast to southeast, west to southwest and vice versa. Does Oahu have this capability? No.
So do you have a point brah? No.
Kailua Resident

Honolulu, HI

#30 Jul 30, 2008
Lets try Logic 101 with Ben Ramelb!
Rail gives people an alternative way to get around without driving their cars. If they so choose, less cars shall be on the road. Less cars means a reduction in congestion.
Class dissmissed.
VeryOld

Honolulu, HI

#33 Jul 30, 2008
Without even giving it a shot, there are those that whine that the rail isn't the solution to the traffic mess.

I would agree that the mess remains as long as people insist on using their cars.

The rail however, is an alternative option for those that choose so.

We've had study after study, through my high-school years, through my employment, and now into my retirement. We've had the DOT Department Heads from the last 35-years advocating for the rail, and that includes while they were the DOT Heads way back then. Had we listened to them way back then, we wouldn't be in this mess.

"We're going to build this thing!", says Mufi, and this morning's Advertiser has him with an 80% approval rating. And that's a 'whopping' rating when it comes to polls.

The rail is going to be built. Probably not in my lifetime, because such are the way things are done here. Plus, the City Council approved moving forward with the rail by a vote of 7-2, and that was 2-years ago! Meanwhile, we've paid an expert panel to determine the route, but didn't listen to it. And we've paid more for a panel to determine the technology, yet, we balk at it.

What a waste of money and people's time all those studies were.

Geev 'em - Mufi!!!

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